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wtf is wrong with the right?

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Re: wtf is wrong with the right?
« Reply #2085 on: March 25, 2022, 05:25:58 PM »
It will get used in the mid-terms.

I doubt that it matters. Didn't matter for the black out drunk guy (hey, plenty of us have been there, but maybe without the alleged groping, etc.). Court is packed as it is. Unless Thomas doesn't pull through. Maybe his wife's texts will do him in. I actually feel bad for him.

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Re: wtf is wrong with the right?
« Reply #2086 on: March 25, 2022, 05:31:46 PM »
Now do Cory Booker.

You don't want to refute Andrew McCarthy?
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Re: wtf is wrong with the right?
« Reply #2087 on: March 25, 2022, 05:35:03 PM »
I'd like to see her resume side by side with Kavanaugh's.
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Re: wtf is wrong with the right?
« Reply #2088 on: March 25, 2022, 05:38:41 PM »
I'd like to see her resume side by side with Kavanaugh's.

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FOeV-KUXwAUNtdc?format=png&name=large

Here is the comparison with all of them.

She is probably the closest thing to a real courtroom lawyer out of all of them.
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Re: wtf is wrong with the right?
« Reply #2089 on: March 25, 2022, 06:07:56 PM »
The Facts on Judge Jackson’s Sentencing in Child Porn Cases
https://www.factcheck.org/2022/03/the-facts-on-judge-jacksons-sentencing-in-child-porn-cases/

"Sen. Ted Cruz said the probation reports aren’t public and complained that the Republican staff wasn’t given them. The White House provided us with that information."

That was nice of the White House.

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Re: wtf is wrong with the right?
« Reply #2090 on: March 25, 2022, 06:30:03 PM »
You don't want to refute Andrew McCarthy?
McCarthy cites federal sentencing of 5 years or greater.
I assume McCarthy had no probation recommendations in the involved cases.
The Republicans say they did not have the recommendations, and they are not publicly available.
Alum posted a Factcheck that cited 7 cases.
2 of the 7 cases resulted in 5 years.
4 of the 7 cases resulted in under 5 years.
2 of the 7 cases resulted in greater than probation recommendations, one by a month. Both cases resulted in under 5 years.
1 of the 7 cases resulted in greater than 5 years.

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Re: wtf is wrong with the right?
« Reply #2091 on: March 25, 2022, 07:54:29 PM »
Got an Adam's apple ?
Grab a rifle, dude. Men stay to fight.


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Re: wtf is wrong with the right?
« Reply #2092 on: March 25, 2022, 08:06:51 PM »
McCarthy cites federal sentencing of 5 years or greater.
I assume McCarthy had no probation recommendations in the involved cases.
The Republicans say they did not have the recommendations, and they are not publicly available.
Alum posted a Factcheck that cited 7 cases.
2 of the 7 cases resulted in 5 years.
4 of the 7 cases resulted in under 5 years.
2 of the 7 cases resulted in greater than probation recommendations, one by a month. Both cases resulted in under 5 years.
1 of the 7 cases resulted in greater than 5 years.

Did you read the part about the difference between child sexual assault and child pornography? Also the difference between simple possession of pornography and the production and distribution?

That is what McCarthy was talking about. All of those are crimes, but they are not equal crimes deserving the same harsh penalty.

Hypothetically, I think most people would agree giving an 18 year old boy  5 years for possessing pictures his adolescent GF sent him would be excessive.
« Last Edit: March 25, 2022, 08:34:31 PM by illiniray »
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Re: wtf is wrong with the right?
« Reply #2093 on: March 25, 2022, 09:08:29 PM »
Did you read the part about the difference between child sexual assault and child pornography? Also the difference between simple possession of pornography and the production and distribution?

That is what McCarthy was talking about. All of those are crimes, but they are not equal crimes deserving the same harsh penalty.

Hypothetically, I think most people would agree giving an 18 year old boy  5 years for possessing pictures his adolescent GF sent him would be excessive.
The 3 month guy .....
"In 2012, Hawkins came to the attention of law enforcement after he posted five videos of prepubescent boys engaged in sexual acts to YouTube. An undercover detective soon after emailed the then 18-year-old, suggested that the two had "similar interests."

Hawkins then emailed the agent two videos, and said that he was interested in boys ages 11 to 17.

Jackson :  "This case is different because the children in the photos and videos you collected were not much younger than you. This seems to be a situation in which you were fascinated by sexual images involving what were essentially your peers."

One of the videos involved an 8 year old. An 8 year old is not a peer of an 18 year old.

If McCarthy and Jackson think the penalties are too severe, maybe they should run for Congress.

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Re: wtf is wrong with the right?
« Reply #2094 on: March 25, 2022, 09:25:19 PM »
Hawkins was found with 17 videos and 16 images, several depicting prepubescent boys engaged in sex acts. Hawkins cooperated with police, admitted possession and entered a pre-indictment guilty plea. He also wrote a letter taking responsibility and expressing remorse.

Federal guidelines called for a sentence of eight to 10 years. Prosecutors recommended two years, given Hawkins’s age and lack of a criminal record. A U.S. probation officer recommended a year and a half. Hawkins’s defense attorney asked for just one day in jail and five years of supervised release.

Jackson said in court that Hawkins had committed “a very serious and, in many ways, heinous crime” but noted that Hawkins had not produced any of the videos or taken any of the pictures. She also said she had to weigh Hawkins’s age in relation to the age of the children in many of the images. He was not much older than they ....

Jackson said. “And, as the psychological report concluded, there’s no reason to believe that you are a pedophile or that you pose any risk to children.”

Hawkins was required to register as a sex offender for at least 10 years. ...
https://www.washingtonpost.com/investigations/2022/03/25/wesley-hawkins-ketanji-brown-jackson/

There is more in the article.
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Re: wtf is wrong with the right?
« Reply #2095 on: March 25, 2022, 10:03:50 PM »
Hawkins was found with 17 videos and 16 images, several depicting prepubescent boys engaged in sex acts. Hawkins cooperated with police, admitted possession and entered a pre-indictment guilty plea. He also wrote a letter taking responsibility and expressing remorse.

Federal guidelines called for a sentence of eight to 10 years. Prosecutors recommended two years, given Hawkins’s age and lack of a criminal record. A U.S. probation officer recommended a year and a half. Hawkins’s defense attorney asked for just one day in jail and five years of supervised release.

Jackson said in court that Hawkins had committed “a very serious and, in many ways, heinous crime” but noted that Hawkins had not produced any of the videos or taken any of the pictures. She also said she had to weigh Hawkins’s age in relation to the age of the children in many of the images. He was not much older than they ....

Jackson said. “And, as the psychological report concluded, there’s no reason to believe that you are a pedophile or that you pose any risk to children.”

Hawkins was required to register as a sex offender for at least 10 years. ...
https://www.washingtonpost.com/investigations/2022/03/25/wesley-hawkins-ketanji-brown-jackson/

There is more in the article.
He didn't produce any of the videos. He just put some on YouTube.
Yep, he cooperated with authorities. He emailed 2 videos to the detective.
And if the lawyer suggests writing a letter of apology and remorse, or you'll get 10 years, it's a good idea to write the letter.
Meanwhile, the judge says an 8 year old being abused is nothing more than 'peer review'.

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Re: wtf is wrong with the right?
« Reply #2096 on: March 25, 2022, 11:45:30 PM »

Meanwhile, the judge says an 8 year old being abused is nothing more than 'peer review'.

What crime do you think he was charged with?
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Re: wtf is wrong with the right?
« Reply #2097 on: March 26, 2022, 07:26:56 AM »
4th graders are not being groomed by pedos. .

Hawkins had a video of an 8 year old.

You seem to have a thing for protecting the pedos.

I'm done.

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Re: wtf is wrong with the right?
« Reply #2098 on: March 26, 2022, 11:18:41 AM »
That was a really odd hill for Nichi to die on.
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Re: wtf is wrong with the right?
« Reply #2099 on: March 26, 2022, 12:14:22 PM »
Hawkins had a video of an 8 year old.

You seem to have a thing for protecting the pedos.

I'm done.

You seem to be confusing sex offenders who possess dirty pictures with actual pedos who sexually assault children. That is the point McCarthy made.
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