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Re: wtf is wrong with the right?
« Reply #6675 on: February 10, 2025, 03:02:22 PM »
Quote from: illiniray on February 10, 2025, 01:44:42 PM

Not a word about 3 hour notice.
Maybe there never was a 3 hour timeline.
"The official said they could not confirm or deny the three-hour timeline."

https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/donald-trump/trump-administration-evicts-former-coast-guard-linda-fagan-3-hours-rcna19082

Also in the NBC story.
The 1st paragraph ends with "according to two people familiar with the incident."
And......
"Coast Guard leaders had given Fagan a 60-day waiver to find new housing, according to one of the sources."

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Re: wtf is wrong with the right?
« Reply #6676 on: February 10, 2025, 03:09:03 PM »
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Re: wtf is wrong with the right?
« Reply #6677 on: February 10, 2025, 03:12:25 PM »
Quote from: illiniray on February 10, 2025, 03:09:03 PM
https://www.newsmax.com/newsfront/coast-guard-linda-fagan-donald-trump/2025/02/06/id/1198098/
This is the same story, including sentences word for word, as the NBC story.
What kind of journalism is this ?  Lol.
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Re: wtf is wrong with the right?
« Reply #6678 on: February 10, 2025, 03:16:48 PM »
She had 60 days to find new housing.  Trump got wind of it and ordered her out immediately. How hard is that?

They all carry the same wire story with same standard disclaimers required by legal departments.
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Re: wtf is wrong with the right?
« Reply #6679 on: February 10, 2025, 03:21:28 PM »


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Re: wtf is wrong with the right?
« Reply #6680 on: February 10, 2025, 03:31:19 PM »
Quote from: illiniray on February 10, 2025, 03:16:48 PM
She had 60 days to find new housing.  Trump got wind of it and ordered her out immediately. How hard is that?

They all carry the same wire story with same standard disclaimers required by legal departments.
An unnamed source saying the Coast Guard officials gave her a 60 day waiver is not much different than an anonymous person on HQ2 saying that the 60 day waiver was, in fact, given by an unnamed CG official.
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Re: wtf is wrong with the right?
« Reply #6681 on: February 10, 2025, 03:31:58 PM »
Quote from: illiniray on February 10, 2025, 03:21:28 PM




No one cares as they enjoy seeing unemployment lines swell with federal government bureaucrats. Nichi, Alum, and Mn better start looking for work again as those Social Security payments cannot directly deposit themselves!
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Re: wtf is wrong with the right?
« Reply #6682 on: February 10, 2025, 03:38:36 PM »
Quote from: alum74 on February 10, 2025, 02:52:22 PM
There’s been lots of meetings and conferences about sustainable agriculture over the last 30-40 years, but there is a high degree of resistance on the part of the farming community to implement new sustainability practices and technologies.  What are the barriers? 

According to the research:

Psychological resistance:  Farmers are creatures of habit.  They fear new practices that may require a steep learning curve or disrupt their usual work routines.

Economic uncertainty: The upfront costs and perceived risks associated with adopting new practices (“cost of change”) are typically viewed as insurmountable, even if they are profitable in the long run. 

Social pressures: Most farmers base their decisions on what others are doing (“herd mentality”). If new practices or innovation are not widely accepted by their peers, individual farmers will be less likely to adopt them.
https://link.springer.com/article/10.1007/s13165-023-00440-7

Trump, RFK Jr and the rest of the gang don’t have the capacity to address these challenges.  On top of that, the threat of tariffs, cutbacks in ag research/outreach and labor concerns will make farmers even more resistant to change.  Most will just want to keep their heads above water for the next four years.   

I work in the sustainable ag industry and while those barriers do exist, the biggest barrier is that what they do now works, and a lot of sustainability initiatives don’t add any value to their operations. There is also mistrust because companies like Indigo, run by coastal eggheads with no farm background, came out and signed up a bunch of farmers to do carbon sequestration and overpromised and underdelivered. If a product or practice pays, farmers will use it.
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Re: wtf is wrong with the right?
« Reply #6683 on: February 10, 2025, 03:40:30 PM »
Quote from: Custard on February 10, 2025, 03:38:36 PM
I work in the sustainable ag industry and while those barriers do exist, the biggest barrier is that what they do now works, and a lot of sustainability initiatives don’t add any value to their operations. There is also mistrust because companies like Indigo, run by coastal eggheads with no farm background, came out and signed up a bunch of farmers to do carbon sequestration and overpromised and underdelivered. If a product or practice pays, farmers will use it.

because fucking up their topsoil is their grandchildren's problem
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Re: wtf is wrong with the right?
« Reply #6684 on: February 10, 2025, 03:45:51 PM »
I am betting they did not stop using Farmers.com because once some trans woman showed up for their meet and greet....
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Re: wtf is wrong with the right?
« Reply #6685 on: February 10, 2025, 03:50:08 PM »
https://www.msn.com/en-ie/news/us/ar-AA1yK84H

They may want to just pull themselves up by their bootstraps instead of sucking on the government and Blue States' teats!

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Farmers report missing millions of dollars of funding they were promised by the U.S. Department of Agriculture, despite promises from the Trump administration that a federal funding freeze would not apply to projects directly benefiting individuals.

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Farmers who signed contracts with the USDA under those programs paid up front to build fencing, plant new crops and install renewable energy systems with guarantees that the federal government would issue grants and loan guarantees to cover at least part of their costs. Now, with that money frozen, they’re on the hook.
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Re: wtf is wrong with the right?
« Reply #6686 on: February 10, 2025, 05:05:06 PM »
Quote from: No one in Mn on February 10, 2025, 03:31:19 PM
An unnamed source saying the Coast Guard officials gave her a 60 day waiver is not much different than an anonymous person on HQ2 saying that the 60 day waiver was, in fact, given by an unnamed CG official.

It's light years different.
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Re: wtf is wrong with the right?
« Reply #6687 on: February 10, 2025, 05:19:14 PM »
Quote from: illiniray on February 10, 2025, 05:05:06 PM
It's light years different.

Correct. Anonymous HQ2 posters are far more accurate.
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Re: wtf is wrong with the right?
« Reply #6688 on: February 10, 2025, 05:26:03 PM »
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/us-politics/noem-trump-musk-government-trust-b2695016.html

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“I remember a time when Republicans were very careful about and worried about the government, particularly unelected people, having access to personal data,” noted Bash.

Noem responded: “Well, we can't trust our government anymore.”

“But you are the government now,” said a surprised Bash.

Can't even blame her for being some dipshit Ivy Leaguer...

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Noem attended Northern State University from 1990 to 1994, but did not graduate. Her daughter, Kassidy, was born on April 21, 1994. Noem left college early to run the family farm. She added a hunting lodge and restaurant to the family property. Her siblings also moved back to help expand the businesses.[7]

Noem subsequently took classes at the Watertown campus of Mount Marty College and at South Dakota State University, and online classes from the University of South Dakota.[7][9][11] She obtained a Bachelor of Arts degree with a major in political science from South Dakota State University in 2012.

I wonder if I can take online classes at South Dakota State to be a nuclear engineer.
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Re: wtf is wrong with the right?
« Reply #6689 on: February 10, 2025, 05:47:40 PM »
Quote from: Custard on February 10, 2025, 03:38:36 PM
I work in the sustainable ag industry and while those barriers do exist, the biggest barrier is that what they do now works, and a lot of sustainability initiatives don’t add any value to their operations. There is also mistrust because companies like Indigo, run by coastal eggheads with no farm background, came out and signed up a bunch of farmers to do carbon sequestration and overpromised and underdelivered. If a product or practice pays, farmers will use it.

"Sustainable Ag" as a term is overused and wishy-washy.  There’s really no consensus on its meaning.  These days, it looks more and more like an oxymoron to me.  Modern agriculture has not been kind to soils.   

As to Indigo, they need thousands of farmers willing to rethink practices.  Good luck with that.  Most farmers don’t want to change.  Regenerative practices that increase soil health and store carbon are not a priority for the industry.   
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