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wtf is wrong with the right?

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Re: wtf is wrong with the right?
« Reply #6645 on: February 08, 2025, 05:48:24 PM »
Quote from: illiniray on February 08, 2025, 11:36:38 AM
That is not very specific.

"The Progressive Farmer estimates that USAID is responsible for about $2 billion in U.S. Agriculture commodity purchases annually for humanitarian food aid. Reuters reports that the U.S. has already stopped purchases for foreign food aid programs."

Iowa corn and beans would be part of that.  Not a sham.
https://www.kcci.com/article/usaid-trump-cuts-iowa-agriculture-impacts-trade/63696477

This is a very good point.

The GOP frames something like 2 billion spent on food aid to some 3rd world country as money that went down the toilet.

That money ends up being profit for American Farmers. And a big chunk of that money then goes straight back to the government in the form of income taxes paid by that farmer. Other chunks are paying for the seeds, combines, etc.. that the farmer buys, which include sales taxes, and provide profit for Monsanto and Deere, and end up being taxes sent back as well.
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Re: wtf is wrong with the right?
« Reply #6646 on: February 08, 2025, 07:10:34 PM »
Quote from: alum74 on February 08, 2025, 11:08:38 AM
If there are problems with waste in the USAID program then by all means make efficiency improvements.  Change its priorities, reduce funding or even advocate for eliminating the program if you want.  But this is something that should be done in a transparent manner and involve Congress.   
https://apnews.com/article/usaid-hiv-humanitarian-assistance-disease-spending-20f9cb969ffb6773e57886e34bf69165

This is what the dopes in Dearborn voted for though
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Re: wtf is wrong with the right?
« Reply #6647 on: February 09, 2025, 12:03:45 AM »
Quote from: murphstahoe on February 08, 2025, 05:48:24 PM
This is a very good point.

The GOP frames something like 2 billion spent on food aid to some 3rd world country as money that went down the toilet.

That money ends up being profit for American Farmers. And a big chunk of that money then goes straight back to the government in the form of income taxes paid by that farmer. Other chunks are paying for the seeds, combines, etc.. that the farmer buys, which include sales taxes, and provide profit for Monsanto and Deere, and end up being taxes sent back as well.

Farmers (their CPAs) are really really good about finding income tax loopholes by playing the “tax year” game, and there is no sales tax on agricultural equipment or inputs in most states.

Deere and Monsanto (Bayer) do profit and I assume their employees, at least, are paying taxes.
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Re: wtf is wrong with the right?
« Reply #6648 on: February 09, 2025, 08:29:36 AM »
Quote from: ThePAMan on February 08, 2025, 08:50:55 AM
HIV meds, clean water, Iowa corn and soybeans....

UIUC Soybean Innovation Lab.. 
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Re: wtf is wrong with the right?
« Reply #6649 on: February 09, 2025, 03:05:30 PM »
Quote from: Custard on February 09, 2025, 12:03:45 AM
Farmers (their CPAs) are really really good about finding income tax loopholes by playing the “tax year” game, and there is no sales tax on agricultural equipment or inputs in most states.

Deere and Monsanto (Bayer) do profit and I assume their employees, at least, are paying taxes.

well then fuck it, burn it all down
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Re: wtf is wrong with the right?
« Reply #6650 on: February 09, 2025, 07:29:48 PM »
"Donald Trump gave former Coast Guard commandant Admiral Linda Fagan just three hours to leave her home following her ouster as Coast Guard commandant"-- google
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Re: wtf is wrong with the right?
« Reply #6651 on: February 09, 2025, 07:57:19 PM »
Quote from: ThePAMan on February 09, 2025, 08:29:36 AM
UIUC Soybean Innovation Lab..

I can assure you that no Innovation is taking place there. 100% of that takes place amongst a small handful of multinational conglomerates that control almost all agricultural inputs.
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Re: wtf is wrong with the right?
« Reply #6652 on: February 09, 2025, 08:18:50 PM »
Quote from: illiniray on February 09, 2025, 07:29:48 PM
"Donald Trump gave former Coast Guard commandant Admiral Linda Fagan just three hours to leave her home following her ouster as Coast Guard commandant"-- google
But it's not "her" home and her termination was 2 weeks ago.
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Re: wtf is wrong with the right?
« Reply #6653 on: February 09, 2025, 08:32:13 PM »
Quote from: Custard on February 09, 2025, 07:57:19 PM
I can assure you that no Innovation is taking place there. 100% of that takes place amongst a small handful of multinational conglomerates that control almost all agricultural inputs.

Well, they won't be working on soybeans that can be grown in Sub-Sahara Africa anymore.......
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Re: wtf is wrong with the right?
« Reply #6654 on: February 09, 2025, 09:33:03 PM »
Quote from: Custard on February 09, 2025, 07:57:19 PM
I can assure you that no Innovation is taking place there. 100% of that takes place amongst a small handful of multinational conglomerates that control almost all agricultural inputs.

https://www.lifesciencesuccess.com/videos/brian-dedecker-ceo-and-co-founder-seedling-biosystems/

While Brian was at CU-Boulder prior to departing CU to found the company, he was my fraternity brother at UIUC
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Re: wtf is wrong with the right?
« Reply #6655 on: February 09, 2025, 10:25:14 PM »
Quote from: No one in Mn on February 09, 2025, 08:18:50 PM
But it's not "her" home and her termination was 2 weeks ago.

It was her home. It doesn't matter when she eas fired. The story is a little dated. It got buried under all all the other nastiness. And I mean by Trump and Musk et al.  She had 60 days to move out. Trump arbitrarily changed it. What kind of person does that or approves of it?
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Re: wtf is wrong with the right?
« Reply #6656 on: February 09, 2025, 10:34:43 PM »
Quote from: illiniray on February 09, 2025, 10:25:14 PM
It was her home. It doesn't matter when she eas fired. The story is a little dated. It got buried under all all the other nastiness. And I mean by Trump and Musk et al.  She had 60 days to move out. Trump arbitrarily changed it. What kind of person does that or approves of it?

She needed to get out as she was replaced by a competent white guy who needed to move in. What else did she have to do after getting axed except for packing?
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Re: wtf is wrong with the right?
« Reply #6657 on: February 09, 2025, 10:53:17 PM »
Quote from: ThePAMan on February 09, 2025, 10:34:43 PM
She needed to get out as she was replaced by a competent white guy who needed to move in. What else did she have to do after getting axed except for packing?

Of course. 3 hours with no notice is plenty of time to pack, move out, and find a new place.
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Re: wtf is wrong with the right?
« Reply #6658 on: February 09, 2025, 10:56:36 PM »
Quote from: illiniray on February 09, 2025, 10:53:17 PM
Of course. 3 hours with no notice is plenty of time to pack, move out, and find a new place.

She should learn to be more efficient.
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Re: wtf is wrong with the right?
« Reply #6659 on: February 10, 2025, 07:01:55 AM »
Quote from: illiniray on February 09, 2025, 10:25:14 PM
It was her home. It doesn't matter when she eas fired. The story is a little dated. It got buried under all all the other nastiness. And I mean by Trump and Musk et al.  She had 60 days to move out. Trump arbitrarily changed it. What kind of person does that or approves of it?
It's government housing, ie taxpayer funded.
The story may have gotten buried because of her unsatisfactory recruitment performance which can have a national security impact, her alleged involvement in mishandling sexual assault cases over several years, her mishandling budget and more.
She apparently viewed DEI as an "operational imperative".
She was provided with alternate housing that had been ready for her.

It appears to be the Commander in Chief who did it.
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