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wtf is wrong with the right?

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Re: wtf is wrong with the right?
« Reply #6630 on: February 07, 2025, 09:25:55 PM »
We can probably get people in Africa some help without all the other USAID bullshit.
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Re: wtf is wrong with the right?
« Reply #6631 on: February 07, 2025, 09:37:17 PM »
Quote from: Custard on February 07, 2025, 09:25:55 PM
We can probably get people in Africa some help without all the other USAID bullshit.

If you mean offering to allow S. African whites to move here, ok. Anything else? Not going to happen.
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Re: wtf is wrong with the right?
« Reply #6632 on: February 07, 2025, 09:44:33 PM »
Quote from: Custard on February 07, 2025, 09:25:55 PM
We can probably get people in Africa some help without all the other USAID bullshit.
"without all the other USAID bullshit we can probably get people in Africa more help.
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Re: wtf is wrong with the right?
« Reply #6633 on: February 07, 2025, 09:56:48 PM »
However you want to frame it, it’s very predictable that the grifters who’ve been lining their pockets with taxpayer money through sham USAID disbursements are now losing their shit about the handful of actually productive things it may have been doing. Divert and deflect. Standard behavior when the house of cards comes down.
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Re: wtf is wrong with the right?
« Reply #6634 on: February 08, 2025, 12:14:46 AM »
Quote from: Custard on February 07, 2025, 09:56:48 PM
However you want to frame it, it’s very predictable that the grifters who’ve been lining their pockets with taxpayer money through sham USAID disbursements are now losing their shit about the handful of actually productive things it may have been doing. Divert and deflect. Standard behavior when the house of cards comes down.

Wow!
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Re: wtf is wrong with the right?
« Reply #6635 on: February 08, 2025, 12:18:03 AM »
Quote from: No one in Mn on February 07, 2025, 09:44:33 PM
"without all the other USAID bullshit we can probably get people in Africa more help.

Like what? The professional subscriptions?  How is that bad, but government contracts for Musk are good?

Are you familiar with the details?
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Re: wtf is wrong with the right?
« Reply #6636 on: February 08, 2025, 12:31:07 AM »
Quote from: Custard on February 07, 2025, 09:56:48 PM
However you want to frame it, it’s very predictable that the grifters who’ve been lining their pockets with taxpayer money through sham USAID disbursements are now losing their shit about the handful of actually productive things it may have been doing. Divert and deflect. Standard behavior when the house of cards comes down.

For example, what sham USAID disbursements are you aware of. Please be specific.
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Re: wtf is wrong with the right?
« Reply #6637 on: February 08, 2025, 08:50:55 AM »
Quote from: illiniray on February 08, 2025, 12:31:07 AM
For example, what sham USAID disbursements are you aware of. Please be specific.

HIV meds, clean water, Iowa corn and soybeans....
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Re: wtf is wrong with the right?
« Reply #6638 on: February 08, 2025, 11:08:38 AM »
If there are problems with waste in the USAID program then by all means make efficiency improvements.  Change its priorities, reduce funding or even advocate for eliminating the program if you want.  But this is something that should be done in a transparent manner and involve Congress.   
https://apnews.com/article/usaid-hiv-humanitarian-assistance-disease-spending-20f9cb969ffb6773e57886e34bf69165
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Re: wtf is wrong with the right?
« Reply #6639 on: February 08, 2025, 11:36:38 AM »
Quote from: ThePAMan on February 08, 2025, 08:50:55 AM
HIV meds, clean water, Iowa corn and soybeans....

That is not very specific.

"The Progressive Farmer estimates that USAID is responsible for about $2 billion in U.S. Agriculture commodity purchases annually for humanitarian food aid. Reuters reports that the U.S. has already stopped purchases for foreign food aid programs."

Iowa corn and beans would be part of that.  Not a sham.
https://www.kcci.com/article/usaid-trump-cuts-iowa-agriculture-impacts-trade/63696477
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Re: wtf is wrong with the right?
« Reply #6640 on: February 08, 2025, 11:45:00 AM »
He was being facetious
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Re: wtf is wrong with the right?
« Reply #6641 on: February 08, 2025, 11:55:20 AM »
Meanwhile,

"On first day as AG, Bondi demands ‘zealous advocacy’ of Trump’s agenda'

Bondi "ended the federal moratorium on the death penalty, paused federal justice grant funding for sanctuary cities, and demanded “zealous advocacy” of the president’s agenda from the department’s more than 10,000 lawyers." 

Also "created a “Weaponization Working Group” to review instances of what she described as “politicized justice” — starting with the federal criminal cases brought against Trump by special counsel Jack Smith."


-- WaPo

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Re: wtf is wrong with the right?
« Reply #6642 on: February 08, 2025, 12:01:47 PM »
Quote from: illiniray on February 08, 2025, 11:55:20 AM
Meanwhile,

"On first day as AG, Bondi demands ‘zealous advocacy’ of Trump’s agenda'

Bondi "ended the federal moratorium on the death penalty, paused federal justice grant funding for sanctuary cities, and demanded “zealous advocacy” of the president’s agenda from the department’s more than 10,000 lawyers." 

Also "created a “Weaponization Working Group” to review instances of what she described as “politicized justice” — starting with the federal criminal cases brought against Trump by special counsel Jack Smith."


-- WaPo


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Re: wtf is wrong with the right?
« Reply #6643 on: February 08, 2025, 12:38:24 PM »
From the NYT

"A federal judge early Saturday temporarily restricted access by Elon Musk’s government efficiency program to the Treasury Department’s payment and data systems"

"Although the court order mandates an immediate halt to the Musk employees’ access to the Treasury Department’s payment system, it was not immediately clear when or if they would fully comply."

'If the administration fails to comply with court orders, it is unclear how they might be enforced."

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Re: wtf is wrong with the right?
« Reply #6644 on: February 08, 2025, 02:13:40 PM »
Quote from: illiniray on February 08, 2025, 12:38:24 PM
From the NYT

"A federal judge early Saturday temporarily restricted access by Elon Musk’s government efficiency program to the Treasury Department’s payment and data systems"

"Although the court order mandates an immediate halt to the Musk employees’ access to the Treasury Department’s payment system, it was not immediately clear when or if they would fully comply."

'If the administration fails to comply with court orders, it is unclear how they might be enforced."

They probably just dumped  every one those databases and will query and analyze at there leisure.

The way it should have been done is with careful access controls and monitored operation.
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