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Re: wtf is wrong with the right?
« Reply #6060 on: September 24, 2024, 05:37:07 PM »
My son’s mother’s family are full on Italian (his grandfather was born in Italy), and I’ve heard them say dago multiple times.

I had to look Mick up. Never heard that one, but makes sense I guess.
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Re: wtf is wrong with the right?
« Reply #6061 on: September 24, 2024, 08:59:49 PM »
I know Italians who don’t like the term.

No big.
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Re: wtf is wrong with the right?
« Reply #6062 on: September 24, 2024, 09:57:34 PM »
Is Italian a race? I know in True Romance Dennis Hopper had some mean things to say about Sicilians.
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Re: wtf is wrong with the right?
« Reply #6063 on: September 24, 2024, 11:59:23 PM »
Quote from: Custard on September 24, 2024, 09:57:34 PM
Is Italian a race? I know in True Romance Dennis Hopper had some mean things to say about Sicilians.

Italians hate Sicilians
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Re: wtf is wrong with the right?
« Reply #6064 on: September 25, 2024, 12:04:17 AM »
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Re: wtf is wrong with the right?
« Reply #6065 on: September 25, 2024, 06:56:01 AM »
Cajun was once considered offensive.

Negro was once considered the proper term for black Africans..
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Re: wtf is wrong with the right?
« Reply #6066 on: September 25, 2024, 09:53:09 AM »
Quote from: illiniray on September 25, 2024, 06:56:01 AM
Cajun was once considered offensive.

Negro was once considered the proper term for black Africans..

Yes. And colored. And Orientals. Shit changes.

I just mentioned that I know of people that think dago is offensive. I thought Tempo of all people would be sensitive to something like that, especially since he's implied that I'm racist solely based on where I live. Now I bring it up, and he's like oh, that's fine.

I honestly don't know anymore. And Illini5775 can really go fuck himself. He's a pure example of a shithead boomer.
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Re: wtf is wrong with the right?
« Reply #6067 on: September 25, 2024, 09:53:45 AM »
Quote from: Custard on September 24, 2024, 09:57:34 PM
Is Italian a race? I know in True Romance Dennis Hopper had some mean things to say about Sicilians.

Italian is someone from Italy. Is American a race?

Weird thought...
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Re: wtf is wrong with the right?
« Reply #6068 on: September 25, 2024, 12:30:08 PM »
I don’t remember the conversation well, but I don’t think I implied you were racist. I think I implied you were pretty comfortable living in an overwhelmingly quiet/white town. Not exactly the same thing. Heck, I’m comfortable knowing my kid can go outside (not that he’d ever get off his video games or the iPad) knowing that he won’t get gunned down by a stray bullet meant for someone else.
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Re: wtf is wrong with the right?
« Reply #6069 on: September 25, 2024, 12:31:56 PM »
Negro and black are the exact same word in different languages. One is  marginally offensive, the other is a preferred term.

Person of color is politically correct, colored person is offensive.

Orient vs occident are another example. They are fancy words for Eastern and Western, in reference to the rising and setting son.

https://www.etymonline.com/word/orient

https://www.etymonline.com/word/occident

The offensiveness of these terms probably comes from their historical use, rather than anything intrinsic about the words. That's my non-expert take. I hope it didn't offend anyone.
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Re: wtf is wrong with the right?
« Reply #6070 on: September 25, 2024, 12:55:31 PM »
Quote from: illiniray on September 25, 2024, 12:31:56 PM
Negro and black are the exact same word in different languages. One is  marginally offensive, the other is a preferred term.

Person of color is politically correct, colored person is offensive.

Orient vs occident are another example. They are fancy words for Eastern and Western, in reference to the rising and setting son.

https://www.etymonline.com/word/orient

https://www.etymonline.com/word/occident

The offensiveness of these terms probably comes from from their historical use, rather than anything intrinsic about the words. That's my non-expert take. I hope it didn't offend anyone.

Most of the people being offended are self loathing white people on behalf of someone else.
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Re: wtf is wrong with the right?
« Reply #6071 on: September 25, 2024, 12:56:15 PM »
Quote from: Shame Waldron on September 25, 2024, 12:30:08 PM
I don’t remember the conversation well, but I don’t think I implied you were racist. I think I implied you were pretty comfortable living in an overwhelmingly quiet/white town. Not exactly the same thing. Heck, I’m comfortable knowing my kid can go outside (not that he’d ever get off his video games or the iPad) knowing that he won’t get gunned down by a stray bullet meant for someone else.

Be a parent and get him off the iPad and video games before it’s too late. Who’s running the show around there? C’mon, man!
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Re: wtf is wrong with the right?
« Reply #6072 on: September 25, 2024, 02:02:18 PM »
Quote from: Jobu on September 25, 2024, 09:53:09 AM
I honestly don't know anymore. And Illini5775 can really go fuck himself. He's a pure example of a shithead boomer.

Dat's ageist
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Re: wtf is wrong with the right?
« Reply #6073 on: September 25, 2024, 02:09:36 PM »
Quote from: Custard on September 25, 2024, 12:56:15 PM
Be a parent and get him off the iPad and video games before it’s too late. Who’s running the show around there? C’mon, man!

That’s fair. I’m on his ass all the time about getting outside more, but never fully put my foot down. My kid is pretty insular and chooses to keep a small circle of friends. There’s a polish kid a few doors down he was tight with, but my son doesn’t really play with anymore. One thing I’ll give my kid credit for, he sticks up for himself. If he thinks you’re being a dick to him, he’ll ghost your ass.
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Re: wtf is wrong with the right?
« Reply #6074 on: September 25, 2024, 02:13:18 PM »
Quote from: Shame Waldron on September 25, 2024, 12:30:08 PM
I don’t remember the conversation well, but I don’t think I implied you were racist. I think I implied you were pretty comfortable living in an overwhelmingly quiet/white town. Not exactly the same thing. Heck, I’m comfortable knowing my kid can go outside (not that he’d ever get off his video games or the iPad) knowing that he won’t get gunned down by a stray bullet meant for someone else.

I tried to post another response about an hour ago, but seemed like the website was fritzing a bit.

I think when I said that, I figured you had limited interactions with people of color. You then informed me that you were very close to Peoria, which I didn’t know. I seem to remember you telling me you were there at least somewhat frequently. I was not overtly calling you racist, just giving you shit for your town’s lack of diversity. Hey, Itasca isn’t exactly chock full of people of color, either.
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