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wtf is wrong with the right?

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Re: wtf is wrong with the right?
« Reply #5100 on: May 29, 2024, 03:35:20 PM »
Quote from: illiniray on May 29, 2024, 02:24:17 PM
The current action was justified because Hamas murdered innocent Israeli civilians.

That justified murdering innocent Arab civilians?

It's like self defense. It depends on one's politics.

You are presuming quite a bit here.
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Re: wtf is wrong with the right?
« Reply #5101 on: May 29, 2024, 06:06:05 PM »
Quote from: ThePAMan on May 29, 2024, 03:35:20 PM
You are presuming quite a bit here.

I read what the guy said. He considers the Gaza Arabs or so-called Palestinians sub-human and wants to kill them.

His ilk points to the atrocities the "Palestinians" committed.

It reminds me of the Zimmerman and Rittenhouse debates.
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Re: wtf is wrong with the right?
« Reply #5102 on: May 29, 2024, 06:35:50 PM »
Quote from: illiniray on May 29, 2024, 06:06:05 PM
I read what the guy said. He considers the Gaza Arabs or so-called Palestinians sub-human and wants to kill them.

His ilk points to the atrocities the "Palestinians" committed.

It reminds me of the Zimmerman and Rittenhouse debates.

Are you sure his quote was as broad as you suggest? The translation excerpt does mention "Hamas terrorists" in addition to "Muslim Nazis" in the original post.

Notwithstanding, it has been alleged Hamas operatives have been killed in the latest waves of attacks as they purposely hide themselves among the population (itself a war crime, isn't it?). In addition there were allegations, by at least one female freed hostage, that she was taken by Gazan "civilians" after the initial wave of attacks and "sold" to Hamas operatives in Gaza. In addition to the allegations that non-Hamas "civilians" also engaged in attacks and lootings after the initial wave of attacks. Maybe he had reason to include all Gazans, in addition to their elected officials, in his statements.

We did drop leaflets in Nagasaki before dropping the atomic bomb, right? Did we in Dresden as we were firebombing it? Afghanistan? Iraq (times 2)? Have the rules changed?
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Re: wtf is wrong with the right?
« Reply #5103 on: May 29, 2024, 07:20:04 PM »
That is the same sort of logic I used to hear about black people 60 years ago. Some black guys jumped a white guy. A black man robbed a store.
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Re: wtf is wrong with the right?
« Reply #5104 on: May 29, 2024, 07:24:18 PM »
Quote from: illiniray on May 29, 2024, 07:20:04 PM
That is the same sort of logic I used to hear about black people 60 years ago. Some black guys jumped a white guy. A black man robbed a store.

Raping women, shooting them in the vagina, kidnapping babies, and killing a thousand of hippies at a concert leads to the same logic certainly is an interesting thought process on your part.
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Re: wtf is wrong with the right?
« Reply #5105 on: May 29, 2024, 11:59:32 PM »
Quote from: ThePAMan on May 29, 2024, 07:24:18 PM
Raping women, shooting them in the vagina, kidnapping babies, and killing a thousand of hippies at a concert leads to the same logic certainly is an interesting thought process on your part.

I could have added raping white women, etc.

I guess you are struggling with concepts tonight.

The logic is: Some representatives of a racial or ethnic group behave badly; therefore all of them are subhuman.
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Re: wtf is wrong with the right?
« Reply #5106 on: May 30, 2024, 06:48:58 AM »
Quote from: illiniray on May 29, 2024, 11:59:32 PM
I could have added raping white women, etc.

I guess you are struggling with concepts tonight.

The logic is: Some representatives of a racial or ethnic group behave badly; therefore all of them are subhuman.

Could have added passing out candy on 9/11 as well.
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Re: wtf is wrong with the right?
« Reply #5107 on: June 01, 2024, 03:51:14 PM »
We're supposed to respect the jury verdicts in Zimmerman and Rittenhouse cases, but not in the Perry case.

And not in Trump's civil and criminal trials.
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Re: wtf is wrong with the right?
« Reply #5108 on: June 01, 2024, 04:08:29 PM »
Quote from: ThePAMan on May 29, 2024, 12:40:50 PM
You cannot kill the enemy in a war? I knew the rules of war only change for the Israelis, but not this much. Good thing Roosevelt, Truman, Ike are dead and  cannot be arrested for Dresden, Hiroshima, blah blah blah.....

No, you cannot massively slaughter captive enemy combatants. That’s a war crime. Do I really have to explain this to you?
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Re: wtf is wrong with the right?
« Reply #5109 on: June 01, 2024, 11:08:37 PM »
Quote from: Tempo34 on June 01, 2024, 04:08:29 PM
No, you cannot massively slaughter captive enemy combatants. That’s a war crime. Do I really have to explain this to you?

Captive enemy combatants? LOL.
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Re: wtf is wrong with the right?
« Reply #5110 on: June 02, 2024, 01:26:58 AM »
Quote from: ThePAMan on June 01, 2024, 11:08:37 PM
Captive enemy combatants? LOL.

What would you call them? Subhuman vermin?
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Re: wtf is wrong with the right?
« Reply #5111 on: June 02, 2024, 01:27:38 AM »
I can’t believe our resident lawyer doesn’t know you can’t just slaughter POWs.
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Re: wtf is wrong with the right?
« Reply #5112 on: June 02, 2024, 01:38:51 AM »
That would seem to pair well with his belief that Rich White Golfers should be shot by police for making left turns, though.
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Re: wtf is wrong with the right?
« Reply #5113 on: June 02, 2024, 01:40:42 AM »
Let’s not forget avowed Christian.
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Re: wtf is wrong with the right?
« Reply #5114 on: June 02, 2024, 09:03:34 AM »
Quote from: Tempo34 on June 02, 2024, 01:26:58 AM
What would you call them? Subhuman vermin?

The enemy that started the latest war and now are paying the price for it. Just like the Germans and Japanese in 1945.
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