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Re: wtf is wrong with the right?
« Reply #4680 on: February 08, 2024, 02:13:02 PM »
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Re: wtf is wrong with the right?
« Reply #4681 on: February 08, 2024, 02:23:42 PM »
Quote from: illiniray on February 08, 2024, 02:09:49 PM
Trump also plans to effectively make it treasonous to oppose him.
He intends to appoint special prosecutors to go after everyone he perceives as his enemy.

Oh the irony… 🤔 maybe you’re just too blind to see. How is this wrong for Trump but that’s exactly what they’re doing to him?! 😂 y'all are fucking lunatics!
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Re: wtf is wrong with the right?
« Reply #4682 on: February 08, 2024, 03:07:32 PM »
Quote from: Judge Judy on February 08, 2024, 02:23:42 PM
Oh the irony…  maybe you’re just too blind to see. How is this wrong for Trump but that’s exactly what they’re doing to him?!  y'all are fucking lunatics!

There was a basis to investigate election interference by the Russians; including possible coordination with Trump. Hence, a special prosecutor.

The admin Trump had an IG and a special prosecutor investigate the investigation. They found a low level clerk altered one email to clarify the intent.

Trump tried to pressure Ukraine into investigating Biden, used military aid as leverage. He was impeached for that. No special prosecutor

Trump was also impeached for trying to overturn the election. No special prosecutor

State and Federal jurisdictions have charged Trump with various crimes and or taken civil actions. No special prosecutors.

Republicans have tried to impeach Biden. They can't find a reason.

Revenge -- they did it to me, I want to get even -- is not a reason to investigate someone

Trump is being investigated because he is a criminal.
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Re: wtf is wrong with the right?
« Reply #4683 on: February 08, 2024, 03:59:46 PM »
Quote from: illiniray on February 08, 2024, 03:07:32 PM
There was a basis to investigate election interference by the Russians; including possible coordination with Trump. Hence, a special prosecutor.

The admin Trump had an IG and a special prosecutor investigate the investigation. They found a low level clerk altered one email to clarify the intent.

Trump tried to pressure Ukraine into investigating Biden, used military aid as leverage. He was impeached for that. No special prosecutor

Trump was also impeached for trying to overturn the election. No special prosecutor

State and Federal jurisdictions have charged Trump with various crimes and or taken civil actions. No special prosecutors.

Republicans have tried to impeach Biden. They can't find a reason.

Revenge -- they did it to me, I want to get even -- is not a reason to investigate someone

Trump is being investigated because he is a criminal.

Oh guess what, they found absolutely nothing on Trump for that. Funny, facts don’t matter. There was a basis 😂 you mean they were trying and are trying to throw shit at the wall to see what sticks. They literally are trying to keep a political opponent off the election ballot. That’s straight up Facism and Communism. All the stuff you’re accusing Trump of, the left is currently doing. That’s called projection. Same thing as CHI-NA. You Facist and Communist pigs! Trump was never guilty of insurrection, therefore you can’t keep him off. Read the laws. I believe the Supreme Court educated the state on that just today.
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Re: wtf is wrong with the right?
« Reply #4684 on: February 08, 2024, 05:31:12 PM »
I just wish people could have objectively honest conversations.

Everything is awash in massive hyperbole and most people only consume news that confirms their biases and then repeat that as fact and anything else as fake. It’s sick.

How can anyone say with a straight face that Trump didn’t face massive resistance to his agenda? The left was apoplectic about the very idea of restricting entry under Trump. It was racist and xenophobic! Now it’s Trump’s fault Biden hasn’t done fuck-all in three years but blame Trump?

Do you people even stop to think about what you’re saying before you rush to defend everything Biden does? Haven’t seen much of you guys coming to grips with Hillary being behind the Russian bullshit ahead of the 2016 election, either. (We don’t talk about that!)

Trump has an endless stream of actual shit he’s been actually done or been terrible at to discuss without just making shit up.

It is just sad that otherwise intelligent people in general will let the wool be pulled over their eyes and will blindly defend their party of choice regardless of fact or fiction. It absolutely stifles any kind of intellectually honest conversation that can be had.

At least PaMan trolls both sides from the *almost* middle and is open minded about things. Most people in general are completely blinded by biases and come to the table armed only with that which confirms their biases. Sad!
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Re: wtf is wrong with the right?
« Reply #4685 on: February 08, 2024, 07:13:15 PM »
Hillary behind what?

Was that intentionally funny?.
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Re: wtf is wrong with the right?
« Reply #4686 on: February 08, 2024, 07:15:44 PM »
Trump is not eligible to be President. He participated in a rebellion.
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Re: wtf is wrong with the right?
« Reply #4687 on: February 08, 2024, 07:25:37 PM »
Hillary did opposition research. So what?

Russia interfered in 2016 on behalf on Trump. That was verified. Coordination with Trump was not proven. Trump did obstruct justice, but the AG declined to prosecute.
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Re: wtf is wrong with the right?
« Reply #4688 on: February 08, 2024, 07:33:36 PM »
The Special Counsel investigation uncovered extensive criminal activity
The investigation produced 37 indictments; seven guilty pleas or convictions; and compelling evidence that the president obstructed justice on multiple occasions. Mueller also uncovered and referred 14 criminal matters to other components of the Department of Justice.

Trump associates repeatedly lied to investigators about their contacts with Russians, and President Trump refused to answer questions about his efforts to impede federal proceedings and influence the testimony of witnesses.

A statement signed by over 1,000 former federal prosecutors concluded that if any other American engaged in the same efforts to impede federal proceedings the way Trump did, they would likely be indicted for multiple charges of obstruction of justice

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Re: wtf is wrong with the right?
« Reply #4689 on: February 08, 2024, 07:36:15 PM »
Russia engaged in extensive attacks on the U.S. election system in 2016
Russian interference in the 2016 election was “sweeping and systemic.”[1]
Major attack avenues included a social media “information warfare” campaign that “favored” candidate Trump[2] and the hacking of Clinton campaign-related databases and release of stolen materials through Russian-created entities and Wikileaks.[3]
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Re: wtf is wrong with the right?
« Reply #4690 on: February 08, 2024, 07:40:04 PM »
Hillary called it. Half of Trump's supporters are deplorable racists, bigots, homophobes. The other half are good people who do the right thing and wonder why they get screwed over.

The liberal media reaction? Omg. Hillary called American voters deplorable.
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Re: wtf is wrong with the right?
« Reply #4691 on: February 08, 2024, 08:03:01 PM »
Keep going. You're on a roll. LOL.
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Re: wtf is wrong with the right?
« Reply #4692 on: February 08, 2024, 08:07:43 PM »
Quote from: Custard on February 08, 2024, 05:31:12 PM
I just wish people could have objectively honest conversations.

Everything is awash in massive hyperbole and most people only consume news that confirms their biases and then repeat that as fact and anything else as fake. It’s sick.

How can anyone say with a straight face that Trump didn’t face massive resistance to his agenda? The left was apoplectic about the very idea of restricting entry under Trump. It was racist and xenophobic! Now it’s Trump’s fault Biden hasn’t done fuck-all in three years but blame Trump?

Do you people even stop to think about what you’re saying before you rush to defend everything Biden does? Haven’t seen much of you guys coming to grips with Hillary being behind the Russian bullshit ahead of the 2016 election, either. (We don’t talk about that!)

Trump has an endless stream of actual shit he’s been actually done or been terrible at to discuss without just making shit up.

It is just sad that otherwise intelligent people in general will let the wool be pulled over their eyes and will blindly defend their party of choice regardless of fact or fiction. It absolutely stifles any kind of intellectually honest conversation that can be had.

At least PaMan trolls both sides from the *almost* middle and is open minded about things. Most people in general are completely blinded by biases and come to the table armed only with that which confirms their biases. Sad!

Sanctimonious drivel dressed up as a dad lecture.
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Re: wtf is wrong with the right?
« Reply #4693 on: February 08, 2024, 08:10:09 PM »
Quote from: alum74 on February 08, 2024, 08:07:43 PM
Sanctimonious drivel dressed up as a dad lecture.

It’s much more accurate and better than Ray’s projection propaganda…
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Re: wtf is wrong with the right?
« Reply #4694 on: February 08, 2024, 08:15:18 PM »
Plenty of Trump supporters are neither deplorable nor getting screwed over. As someone in the middle it is the exact kind of off-putting arrogance that drives people away from voting Democrat.   

Your party trotted out a massively unpopular candidate that was probably the ONLY person Trump could have beaten. Take the L and quit blaming other people/countries/facebook because your candidate actually made Trump seem like a solid choice to a large chunk of swing voters.
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