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wtf is wrong with the right?

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murphstahoe

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Re: wtf is wrong with the right?
« Reply #4650 on: February 06, 2024, 10:52:48 AM »
“Trumpsters” ARE the only ones that want the illegal immigration to stop…

I guess it depends on your definition of Trumpsters. His small donors want it stopped. His big donors do not. He listens to the big donors

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Re: wtf is wrong with the right?
« Reply #4651 on: February 06, 2024, 12:37:28 PM »
Biden: every day that the border is not secure the American public will know that it is because of Trump and MAGA.
Mayorkas: the border is secure.

LOL

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Re: wtf is wrong with the right?
« Reply #4652 on: February 06, 2024, 02:33:10 PM »
Biden: every day that the border is not secure the American public will know that it is because of Trump and MAGA.
Mayorkas: the border is secure.


LOL
That border is not secure, it should have been fixed long ago. Pres Biden finally realized this issue is huge, security is at risk. There are/were GOP that said this deal should be passed. But Donald Trash and his MAGA idiots don't care about the American people, just trying to get Americans mad and get votes away from Biden.  The GOP rep from Oklahoma that worked on this bill is getting shit on by other GOP members. A joke.

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Re: wtf is wrong with the right?
« Reply #4653 on: February 06, 2024, 06:25:02 PM »
Apparently they should approve the Senate bipartisan bill given the lack of luck they had in impeaching that dope Mayorkas....
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Re: wtf is wrong with the right?
« Reply #4654 on: February 07, 2024, 09:43:16 AM »
Maybe try reading some news that does not originate from free bacon

From the morning Failing New York Times email…

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Biden’s border

Republicans do have other legitimate reasons to criticize Democrats on immigration. Since Trump’s presidency, many Democrats have embraced the idea of a more open border. If you want to understand the extent of the shift, I recommend reading the party’s 2020 platform: It talks almost exclusively about steps to expand immigration, even outside of legal channels.

Biden, who was once a moderate on immigration, is part of the change. As a presidential candidate, he signaled that he would welcome many more arrivals. As president, he loosened the standards for asylum. Combined with political turmoil in parts of Latin America, the strong U.S. economy and other factors, Biden’s approach fed the migration surge. “There are a lot of people coming because they’re pretty sure that they can get in and stay,” Selee said.
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Re: wtf is wrong with the right?
« Reply #4655 on: February 07, 2024, 10:06:10 AM »


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Re: wtf is wrong with the right?
« Reply #4656 on: February 07, 2024, 12:16:58 PM »




So basically under Biden we started catching em

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Re: wtf is wrong with the right?
« Reply #4657 on: February 07, 2024, 05:51:30 PM »
From the morning Failing New York Times email…

"Mayors, governors, and immigration experts — as well as voters — have long urged Congress to fix the problem.

This week, a bipartisan group of senators released a plan for doing so. And for anybody who has grown cynical about Washington, the plan offered reasons for both surprise and further cynicism.

The surprising part is that productive bipartisanship seems to be alive, even on an issue as divisive as immigration. A wide range of experts say that the Senate plan — negotiated by James Lankford, an Oklahoma Republican; Chris Murphy, a Connecticut Democrat; and Kyrsten Sinema, an Arizona independent — would strengthen border security and reduce illegal immigration.

The measure has the support of business lobbying groups as well as the organization representing the mayors of every U.S. city with a population above 30,000. The labor union for border-patrol agents, which endorsed Donald Trump in 2020, supports the plan. So do the editorial boards of The Washington Post, which leans left, and The Wall Street Journal, which is deeply conservative."

"What, then, is the cause for further cynicism about Washington partisanship? Despite the bill’s bipartisan roots and all the praise it’s received, its chances of passage look slim.

Political benefits
Many Republicans, including Trump and members of Congress, have decided to oppose the plan for political reasons. They think they are likely to do better in this year’s elections if the immigration problem festers and they can blame Biden. “Let me tell you,” Troy Nehls, a House Republican from Texas, told CNN last month, “I’m not willing to do too damn much right now to help a Democrat and to help Joe Biden’s approval rating.”

Republicans justify their opposition mostly by pointing to one provision: an emergency measure that would force the president to virtually shut the southern border when undocumented daily migrant encounters rose above 5,000. This measure, the critics say, would authorize 5,000 illegal entries every day. But that claim is misleading: By the same logic, the current system allows unlimited daily entries. Even more important, the Senate proposal includes many other measures to make entry harder."


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Re: wtf is wrong with the right?
« Reply #4658 on: February 07, 2024, 08:40:29 PM »
From the bill.
The Secretary "shall have".
It doesn't say will be required to.
And who won't it apply to ? It won't apply to the individuals exempted by the 1000's of new governmental employees.
Some may question whether or not Mayorkas will exercise an authority that he "shall have" under the bill.
So yes. The 5000 per day average may be misleading.



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Re: wtf is wrong with the right?
« Reply #4659 on: February 07, 2024, 08:51:08 PM »
A wide range of experts say that the Senate plan — negotiated by James Lankford, an Oklahoma Republican; Chris Murphy, a Connecticut Democrat; and Kyrsten Sinema, an Arizona independent — would strengthen border security and reduce illegal immigration.

The measure has the support of business lobbying groups as well as the organization representing the mayors of every U.S. city with a population above 30,000. The labor union for border-patrol agents, which endorsed Donald Trump in 2020, supports the plan. So do the editorial boards of The Washington Post, which leans left, and The Wall Street Journal, which is deeply conservative."

"What, then, is the cause for further cynicism about Washington partisanship?"

The word shall. Good fucking grief. 
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Re: wtf is wrong with the right?
« Reply #4660 on: February 07, 2024, 09:01:37 PM »
A wide range of experts say that the Senate plan — negotiated by James Lankford, an Oklahoma Republican; Chris Murphy, a Connecticut Democrat; and Kyrsten Sinema, an Arizona independent — would strengthen border security and reduce illegal immigration.

The measure has the support of business lobbying groups as well as the organization representing the mayors of every U.S. city with a population above 30,000. The labor union for border-patrol agents, which endorsed Donald Trump in 2020, supports the plan. So do the editorial boards of The Washington Post, which leans left, and The Wall Street Journal, which is deeply conservative."

"What, then, is the cause for further cynicism about Washington partisanship?"

The word shall. Good fucking grief. 
The Biden administration owns the current situation and wording that says "shall have" and the accompanying exceptions, that you didn't mention, offers no reason to think that the situation won't remain unsustainable.
So yes. Good grief.

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Re: wtf is wrong with the right?
« Reply #4661 on: February 07, 2024, 09:17:55 PM »
Good fucking grief. 4?  LOL

"Within 48 hours of the release of a long-awaited immigration and foreign aid bill he had championed, Senate Minority Leader Mitch McConnell’s Republican conference rejected his pitch to support it, knifed the deal and left it for dead.

Just four Republicans voted for it. In the end, even McConnell backtracked and voted against the package that he had helped develop."
https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/congress/republicans-kill-border-bill-sign-trumps-strength-mcconnells-waning-in-rcna137477

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Re: wtf is wrong with the right?
« Reply #4662 on: February 07, 2024, 09:37:23 PM »
Profiles in courage just everywhere these days. 

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Re: wtf is wrong with the right?
« Reply #4663 on: February 07, 2024, 09:41:20 PM »
The Biden administration owns the current situation and wording that says "shall have" and the accompanying exceptions, that you didn't mention, offers no reason to think that the situation won't remain unsustainable.
So yes. Good grief.

The GOP co-owns the border now.

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Re: wtf is wrong with the right?
« Reply #4664 on: February 07, 2024, 09:54:23 PM »
SAS sure changed his tone regarding immigration from what he just posted a few months back. What a fucking 🤡 he voted for this, own it!

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