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Coach Hulka Illini 2021-22 Roster and Staff Watch

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Re: Coach Hulka Illini 2021-22 Roster and Staff Watch
« Reply #510 on: May 03, 2021, 01:39:34 PM »
Quote from: Lkdog on May 03, 2021, 09:31:34 AM
Well, I am sure that will be the narrative.
And it might very well be the main reason.

If there is more of a backstory it will come out.

It depends on the back story. UK just lost 3 assistants in the last 8 months. The 2 still there are looking at demotions assuming OA and Chin are official.

They are coming off their worst season in decades. Talent is down, by their standards  and they are losing players, not just to the NBA, but also to the portal. UK is a fucking mess.

Calipari traditionally recruits 5 star athletic talent. Reportedly wants to focus a little less on  rank and more on  skilled basketball players as well as skill development.  OA is the perfect fit and has a long relationship with Calipari.

Both UK and Cal have a long history of serious cheating. UI, OTOH, has been burnt by relatively minor violations.

Chicago talent has been down pretty much since Jabari and Okafor. The next    few classes look really good though.  Enter Chin. It could be a lot easier for him to get those guys into UK than UI. Both in terms of admissions and  extras.
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Re: Coach Hulka Illini 2021-22 Roster and Staff Watch
« Reply #511 on: May 03, 2021, 04:24:24 PM »
Quote from: Lkdog on May 03, 2021, 10:21:06 AM




LOL. You are right I think. They did basically announce they wanted theses guys and it was a done deal.
I think losing Chin is not that big of a deal.
Losing OA was big deal. He opened doors we had not been involved in for pretty much never.
The 2021-22 roster will have one Illinois player it appears. We had to move on from begging for an audience from Chicago and STL handlers.

If we do get an Illinois guy like Powell- we can't go back to a strictly provincial focus. Have to do both local and national/international.

Might also want to keep focus on Top 75-150 guys and keep them here 3-4 years. Try and do the Wisconsin model.
We will never be a one and done destination program.

Lets get Powell or Bailey or Mennenga and get to work.
And find out what the fck Gentry needs to do to not piss everybody off.

Chin is replaceable imo, C-Town talent has been way down and quite frankly we haven't gotten alot of regardless of who has been here since J Collins.
Antigua will hurt, the PR pipeline was starting to get real.....the only coach I see being able to somewhat keep that going is Mennenga.
Gentry who the hell knows what is going on here, however, if we had to lose him there would be worse options than Bergeron imo, he has Mitchell (we think) and he also has the ties to AAU and the programs from being in Five Star B-Ball camps and he boasts assisting on getting over 500 players to the NBA?

Lets just get this official on all levels and move on....Underwood, Mennenga (although I am not sure why he would leave) and Bergeron with Mitchell, Powell without him (lateral move at best currently).
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Re: Coach Hulka Illini 2021-22 Roster and Staff Watch
« Reply #512 on: May 03, 2021, 06:11:06 PM »
I doubt they get Powell. Jmo

Id probably put a bet down on Frazier right now.   
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Re: Coach Hulka Illini 2021-22 Roster and Staff Watch
« Reply #513 on: May 03, 2021, 07:00:48 PM »
Quote from: Breal31 on May 03, 2021, 06:11:06 PM
I doubt they get Powell. Jmo

Id probably put a bet down on Frazier right now.

Not sure what we are thinking here. He worked for clownshoes for years who still adheres to try and keep it close MVC ball.
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Re: Coach Hulka Illini 2021-22 Roster and Staff Watch
« Reply #514 on: May 03, 2021, 07:37:21 PM »
Yikes
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Re: Coach Hulka Illini 2021-22 Roster and Staff Watch
« Reply #515 on: May 03, 2021, 08:06:23 PM »
Quote from: Lkdog on May 03, 2021, 07:00:48 PM
Not sure what we are thinking here. He worked for clownshoes for years who still adheres to try and keep it close MVC ball.

....Im not understanding this Frazier thing. All the usual fluff is being said but where’s the results?

VT has a recruiting class that’s basically last place in conference
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Re: Coach Hulka Illini 2021-22 Roster and Staff Watch
« Reply #516 on: May 03, 2021, 08:37:38 PM »
I’d say that it has a lot to do with the circle jerk illini fans have for filling coaching positions with alumni whether they’re any good or not
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Re: Coach Hulka Illini 2021-22 Roster and Staff Watch
« Reply #517 on: May 03, 2021, 09:17:09 PM »
Quote from: Custard on May 03, 2021, 08:37:38 PM
I’d say that it has a lot to do with the circle jerk illini fans have for filling coaching positions with alumni whether they’re any good or not

Yep
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Re: Coach Hulka Illini 2021-22 Roster and Staff Watch
« Reply #518 on: May 03, 2021, 10:09:38 PM »
Quote from: Custard on May 03, 2021, 08:37:38 PM
I’d say that it has a lot to do with the circle jerk illini fans have for filling coaching positions with alumni whether they’re any good or not
Not just coaching positions if you look at our AD.

I'd rather hire Dee and roll the dice.
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Re: Coach Hulka Illini 2021-22 Roster and Staff Watch
« Reply #519 on: May 04, 2021, 01:05:10 AM »
Quote from: Custard on May 03, 2021, 08:37:38 PM
I’d say that it has a lot to do with the circle jerk illini fans have for filling coaching positions with alumni whether they’re any good or not

They do not realize that most recruits do not care very much about any past Illinois player.
Whitman and Hulka need to assess what the vision and goals of the program are at this point. There seems to be a lack of a roadmap here. It can’t be easy at any P5 school these days.
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Re: Coach Hulka Illini 2021-22 Roster and Staff Watch
« Reply #520 on: May 04, 2021, 01:09:03 AM »
I'd guess Brad's roadmap takes him the hell out of here. Maybe a year from now, after Weber is finally shitcanned.
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Re: Coach Hulka Illini 2021-22 Roster and Staff Watch
« Reply #521 on: May 04, 2021, 01:33:00 AM »
Quote from: fucking on May 04, 2021, 01:09:03 AM
I'd guess Brad's roadmap takes him the hell out of here. Maybe a year from now, after Weber is finally shitcanned.

You think he wants back in the B12?

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Re: Coach Hulka Illini 2021-22 Roster and Staff Watch
« Reply #522 on: May 04, 2021, 06:38:14 AM »
Quote from: fucking on May 04, 2021, 01:09:03 AM
I'd guess Brad's roadmap takes him the hell out of here. Maybe a year from now, after Weber is finally shitcanned.

This would not surprise me.
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Re: Coach Hulka Illini 2021-22 Roster and Staff Watch
« Reply #523 on: May 04, 2021, 06:39:25 AM »
I have something close to zero opinions about the Big 12.

If the  job takes some uncomfortable turns, take another. Start over.

Illinois basketball just changed dramatically for the worse. People on Loyalty are now separating into two camps which strongly resemble the WFFs versus the realists.

Maybe BU could find an OA-like replacement for OA. But someone at Bielfeldt is going to need to make this the kind of program where OA would feel comfortable, and want to stay.
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Re: Coach Hulka Illini 2021-22 Roster and Staff Watch
« Reply #524 on: May 04, 2021, 06:57:33 AM »
I’m still somewhat optimistic they are on a decent path. I think Cockburn is going to end up coming back and they likely retain most of the incoming guys which would buy them more time of relevance.

That’s really the key here....stay relevant short term and don’t fall off the cliff

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