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WTF did Trump do to the stock market?

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Re: WTF did Trump do to the stock market?
« Reply #180 on: March 30, 2020, 04:02:48 PM »
Probably more than 3x maybe more like 10x

Awhile ago we were doing the per capita thing. Does that only apply to emissions or do we need to take that into account for covid-19 cases?

Maybe national vs per capita cases only matter depending on what side of the argument one is on?


From the Acadiana Advocate yesterday afternoon.
"Louisiana is second in the country for deaths per capita and third in the country for cases per capita."

Louisiana has tested 3500, 150 have died, 380 on ventilators. La positive test rate is 13%.
By comparison, NJ has tested over 13000 with 160 deaths. NJ positive test rate is at 38%.
If La tested 4x as many people as currently, the death toll is still the same as NJ.
NJ population is essentially twice that of La.
I don't understand the fascination with testing as opposed to preventing transmission.

I don't think there is a "fascination" with testing.  Early on public health officials and the medical community said we must ramp up testing capacity (and not just in the US) if we want to better understand and slow down the spread of the disease.   We were warned by the WHO that the tests are not perfect and that sometimes people who have the disease will be wrongly told they do not.  WHO also said there would be a positive correlation between tests performed and cases confirmed.  And per capita data (or tests per million people) helps us understand the scope of the testing being conducted.   

Dr. Birx recently told NPR the U.S is still prioritizing sick people, symptomatic first responders and people in nursing homes for testing.  She said a new test that could speed things up was just granted "emergency-use authorization" by the FDA and will be rolled out soon.  It can provide results in under 15 minutes, instead of days.  The hope is the new test will allow more widespread testing, which will provide more accurate data on who is getting infected and where.

To clarify, public health officials and the medical community did say initially that we needed testing kits. We did, and we still do.
But it seems to me that the media picked up on that and ran with it. Instead of promoting mitigation in the hopes of minimizing transmission, the focus was that there aren't enough tests, we need more tests. Early on, the medical community was also saying that if you think you've been exposed, then stay home. But people were seeking tests, and the 93% negative test rates were using much needed test kits, ppe, and resources.
Data analysis is essential, but sufficient data is needed. I just don't know how useful the data from 1-2 weeks ago is.
Getting NYC, Washington, Detroit and NOLA under control are first priority. Hopefully we'll have the data to help control the rest of the country when it's their turn.
There's no immunity, no cure, and no vaccine. I bought into "stay home" early.
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Re: WTF did Trump do to the stock market?
« Reply #181 on: March 31, 2020, 09:48:39 AM »
So, who here is going to go after that "free" CARES Act $$$$$?
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Re: WTF did Trump do to the stock market?
« Reply #182 on: March 31, 2020, 11:39:20 AM »
To clarify, public health officials and the medical community did say initially that we needed testing kits. We did, and we still do.
But it seems to me that the media picked up on that and ran with it. Instead of promoting mitigation in the hopes of minimizing transmission, the focus was that there aren't enough tests, we need more tests. Early on, the medical community was also saying that if you think you've been exposed, then stay home. But people were seeking tests, and the 93% negative test rates were using much needed test kits, ppe, and resources.
Data analysis is essential, but sufficient data is needed. I just don't know how useful the data from 1-2 weeks ago is.
Getting NYC, Washington, Detroit and NOLA under control are first priority. Hopefully we'll have the data to help control the rest of the country when it's their turn.
There's no immunity, no cure, and no vaccine. I bought into "stay home" early.

Nobody bought into "stay home" as fast as Crazy Nancy Pelosi's home district and extended area. And our curve is flattening.

The areas that are gonna fare worse long term are the ones who didn't worry about testing OR mitigation. Who just decided it was a hoax, or "just the flu" and grasped to every straw to avoid shutting things down. Things are getting shut down anyway after the horse is out of the barn.

Case loads are worst in NYC, Washington, and Santa Clara County is somewhat of a hot spot despite shutting the county down - because those places are international hubs where the disease entered the country. But it's gonna move to everywhere, and I fear these less aggressive areas are gonna have some pretty bad fallout. Rural communities like where my in-laws are, there is only one grocery store (Walmart of course) in a huge radius, and nobody has altered their shopping patterns. We haven't gone out for more groceries in over 2 weeks - we're definitely high level adopters but the median person is still shutting it down pretty hard.

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Re: WTF did Trump do to the stock market?
« Reply #183 on: March 31, 2020, 11:44:57 AM »
So, who here is going to go after that "free" CARES Act $$$$$?

"go after" - I haven't been following, do you have to apply or are they just mailing checks to taxpayers?

Dunno about you but while this is a pain in the tuckus I've saved a boatload of money. Just start with cancelling my trip to Sacramento to watch the NCAAs, and we haven't eaten out, Starbucks, anything, for 3 weeks. We are watching our food stores very carefully so no leftovers ended up in the bin. Certainly hasn't matched the stock market losses though :O - Why didn't Kelly tip her old roomie off!

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Re: WTF did Trump do to the stock market?
« Reply #184 on: March 31, 2020, 02:44:15 PM »
So, who here is going to go after that "free" CARES Act $$$$$?

"go after" - I haven't been following, do you have to apply or are they just mailing checks to taxpayers?

Dunno about you but while this is a pain in the tuckus I've saved a boatload of money. Just start with cancelling my trip to Sacramento to watch the NCAAs, and we haven't eaten out, Starbucks, anything, for 3 weeks. We are watching our food stores very carefully so no leftovers ended up in the bin. Certainly hasn't matched the stock market losses though :O - Why didn't Kelly tip her old roomie off!

The CARES Act establishes the Paycheck Protection Program, which allows for SBA loan forgiveness if properly used for payroll, mortgages, rent, and utilities, as well as the Economic Stabilzation Fund, for the airlines and other businesses.
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Re: WTF did Trump do to the stock market?
« Reply #185 on: March 31, 2020, 03:09:19 PM »
I started 17 shell companies just before this hit cha ching
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Re: WTF did Trump do to the stock market?
« Reply #186 on: April 01, 2020, 08:47:32 AM »
I started 17 shell companies just before this hit cha ching

Hope they were operating before 2/15. Also, they need to provide certain paid COVID-19 sick and family and medical leave effective today to enployees.
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Re: WTF did Trump do to the stock market?
« Reply #187 on: April 01, 2020, 09:33:46 AM »
I started 17 shell companies just before this hit cha ching

Hope they were operating before 2/15. Also, they need to provide certain paid COVID-19 sick and family and medical leave effective today to enployees.

I also hired CT’s accountant.
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Re: WTF did Trump do to the stock market?
« Reply #188 on: April 01, 2020, 04:31:37 PM »
So, you've hired people too.

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Re: WTF did Trump do to the stock market?
« Reply #189 on: April 01, 2020, 05:58:49 PM »
So, you've hired people too.

Quite a few in fact. But nowhere near the caliber of people CT hires I’m sure.
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Re: WTF did Trump do to the stock market?
« Reply #190 on: April 01, 2020, 11:58:37 PM »
I started 17 shell companies just before this hit cha ching

Hope they were operating before 2/15. Also, they need to provide certain paid COVID-19 sick and family and medical leave effective today to enployees.

I also hired CT’s accountant.
Regulations only exist to be sidestepped.

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Re: WTF did Trump do to the stock market?
« Reply #191 on: April 02, 2020, 12:59:00 AM »
I started 17 shell companies just before this hit cha ching

Hope they were operating before 2/15. Also, they need to provide certain paid COVID-19 sick and family and medical leave effective today to enployees.

I also hired CT’s accountant.
Regulations only exist to be sidestepped.

If you want to win you gotta play in the gray area
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Re: WTF did Trump do to the stock market?
« Reply #192 on: April 02, 2020, 05:14:09 AM »
On a scale from 0 to 10 where 10 is definitely and 0 is impossible, how would you rate the likelihood that CT has paid for sex?

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Re: WTF did Trump do to the stock market?
« Reply #193 on: April 02, 2020, 08:04:57 AM »
So, you've hired people too.

Quite a few in fact. But nowhere near the caliber of people CT hires I’m sure.


But did you let anyone go only after you were sure you had a better replacement picked out?
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Re: WTF did Trump do to the stock market?
« Reply #194 on: April 02, 2020, 08:06:07 AM »
I started 17 shell companies just before this hit cha ching

Hope they were operating before 2/15. Also, they need to provide certain paid COVID-19 sick and family and medical leave effective today to enployees.

I also hired CT’s accountant.

That you remember what he posted is an indictment of you, not CT!
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