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WTF did Trump do to the stock market?

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Re: WTF did Trump do to the stock market?
« Reply #195 on: April 02, 2020, 02:58:58 PM »
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On a scale from 0 to 10 where 10 is definitely and 0 is impossible, how would you rate the likelihood that CT has paid for sex?

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Re: WTF did Trump do to the stock market?
« Reply #196 on: April 02, 2020, 03:00:18 PM »
Quote from: ThePAMan on April 02, 2020, 08:06:07 AM
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I started 17 shell companies just before this hit cha ching

Hope they were operating before 2/15. Also, they need to provide certain paid COVID-19 sick and family and medical leave effective today to enployees.

I also hired CT’s accountant.

That you remember what he posted is an indictment of you, not CT!
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So, you've hired people too.

Quite a few in fact. But nowhere near the caliber of people CT hires I’m sure.


But did you let anyone go only after you were sure you had a better replacement picked out?

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Re: WTF did Trump do to the stock market?
« Reply #197 on: April 02, 2020, 09:51:14 PM »
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Do contested divorces w/ alimony count?
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Re: WTF did Trump do to the stock market?
« Reply #198 on: April 03, 2020, 08:42:59 AM »
Quote from: illinicalvin on March 23, 2020, 11:33:01 PM
Quote from: Custard on March 23, 2020, 08:50:49 PM
And the mortality rate is hovering around 1% and will continue to drop
The US, just yesterday, hit 35k cumulative cases / 325M population, so we're roughly at the same per capita *known* infection rate, so by that metric we're about ~2 weeks behind northern Italy if there's any analogous spread here.

Italy is now at 64k confirmed w/ 6k deaths. If the US has similar linear/multiple expansion, in 2 weeks we're looking at 245,000 cases.
We broke 245k yesterday, ~9 days after I posted this, so nationally at least we're accelerating faster than Italy was during their run-up, and we still have a ton of symptomatic people not getting tests, which means we also have no idea how many asymptomatic people are floating around still. Hopefully we're peaking now in the cities that went on lockdown 2 weeks ago but places like Georgia and Florida...yeesh.

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Re: WTF did Trump do to the stock market?
« Reply #199 on: April 03, 2020, 10:13:06 AM »
Are we accelerating faster or just testing more?
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Re: WTF did Trump do to the stock market?
« Reply #200 on: April 03, 2020, 11:00:58 AM »
I think it’s because we are testing more now, but wow, Florida and Georgia are two stupid fucking State’s that really messed up their handling of this virus. It’s reported that the Georgia Governor didn’t know the virus could be transmitted without a person showing symptoms. Like WTF?! And the handling of the beaches in Florida is ridiculous.
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Re: WTF did Trump do to the stock market?
« Reply #201 on: April 03, 2020, 12:40:10 PM »
Quote from: Judge Judy on April 03, 2020, 11:00:58 AM
I think it’s because we are testing more now, but wow, Florida and Georgia are two stupid fucking State’s that really messed up their handling of this virus. It’s reported that the Georgia Governor didn’t know the virus could be transmitted without a person showing symptoms. Like WTF?! And the handling of the beaches in Florida is ridiculous.

It's not "reported" - he actually said that, in a press conference, plenty of videos of it online.

Now - did he not know this fact, or was he willfully lying, it's unclear. Either way, it's brutal imcompetence.

We'll note that in the 2018 blue wave, two states resisted that wave - Florida and Georgia by electing Brian Kemp and Ron DeSantis as Governors. "Resisted" of course including a lot of probable voter suppression. At least I hope it was voter suppression because the alternative is that the people of Florida and Georgia as a whole thought that electing these two was a good idea.
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Re: WTF did Trump do to the stock market?
« Reply #202 on: April 03, 2020, 12:44:50 PM »
I'm tempted to say "Darwin at work" but the potential collateral damage is too broad to paint with one brush.  It really stinks that so many folks can get seriously ill just because some dolts get their information solely from highly suspect sources.   Hang another medal.....
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Re: WTF did Trump do to the stock market?
« Reply #203 on: April 03, 2020, 02:29:21 PM »
The irony is the CDC is headquartered in Atlanta.   But, the CDC is big government, pointy-headed experts and deep state.   

Just like Trump, the reality will hit the Georgia Governor hard.   
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Re: WTF did Trump do to the stock market?
« Reply #204 on: April 03, 2020, 04:38:23 PM »
The Ga governor was referring to a just released CDC report of a pre-symptomatic transmission study done in Singapore. Singapore has been doing contact tracing for a while. This study discusses the possibility of transmission before symptoms occur in a person who becomes symptomatic. Asymptomatic, pre-symptomatic and symptomatic are different.
The asymptomatic transmission that has been accepted involves the transmission from individuals who do not show symptoms. It appears that there has been an assumption that individuals who become symptomatic are not contagious until symptomatic.
This study, with a press release of April 1, addresses the possibility of pre-symptomatic transmission and shows that transmission can occur up to 48 hours before symptoms show.
I dont see anything wrong with what the governor said.
"If Georgia’s Brian Kemp is a vote suppressor, he’s the least successful vote suppressor alive. Turnout in Georgia was immense. In the previous gubernatorial election, Republican Nathan Deal won with 1.3 million votes. In November, Abrams lost with 1.9 million votes. There were roughly 2.5 million total votes cast in 2014. In 2018, more than 3.9 million Georgians voted. That almost matches the total votes cast for president in 2016.
According to FiveThirtyEight, 55 percent of eligible Georgians voted, a whopping 21-point increase over the 1982–2014 midterm average. Moreover, according to preliminary exit polls, a record-high 40 percent of Georgia’s electorate was nonwhite. Georgia’s 55 percent turnout exceeded the national average of 47 percent."
National Review, Nov 19, 2018.
Also, the Fla Democratic gubernatorial candidate has withdrawn from politics. I'll leave it at that.
Fla allowing spring break was not the best move. Either was the Mardi Gras.
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Re: WTF did Trump do to the stock market?
« Reply #205 on: April 03, 2020, 05:24:53 PM »
Quote from: Mn on April 03, 2020, 04:38:23 PM
The Ga governor was referring to a just released CDC report of a pre-symptomatic transmission study done in Singapore. Singapore has been doing contact tracing for a while. This study discusses the possibility of transmission before symptoms occur in a person who becomes symptomatic. Asymptomatic, pre-symptomatic and symptomatic are different.
The asymptomatic transmission that has been accepted involves the transmission from individuals who do not show symptoms. It appears that there has been an assumption that individuals who become symptomatic are not contagious until symptomatic.
This study, with a press release of April 1, addresses the possibility of pre-symptomatic transmission and shows that transmission can occur up to 48 hours before symptoms show.
I dont see anything wrong with what the governor said.
"If Georgia’s Brian Kemp is a vote suppressor, he’s the least successful vote suppressor alive. Turnout in Georgia was immense. In the previous gubernatorial election, Republican Nathan Deal won with 1.3 million votes. In November, Abrams lost with 1.9 million votes. There were roughly 2.5 million total votes cast in 2014. In 2018, more than 3.9 million Georgians voted. That almost matches the total votes cast for president in 2016.
According to FiveThirtyEight, 55 percent of eligible Georgians voted, a whopping 21-point increase over the 1982–2014 midterm average. Moreover, according to preliminary exit polls, a record-high 40 percent of Georgia’s electorate was nonwhite. Georgia’s 55 percent turnout exceeded the national average of 47 percent."
National Review, Nov 19, 2018.
Also, the Fla Democratic gubernatorial candidate has withdrawn from politics. I'll leave it at that.
Fla allowing spring break was not the best move. Either was the Mardi Gras.

Let's give Bannon, Tom Cotton, and Tucker Carlson credit for.being smarter than a lot of people who run states.....
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Re: WTF did Trump do to the stock market?
« Reply #206 on: April 03, 2020, 05:53:30 PM »
On Brian Kemp, he did say presymptomatic versus asymptomatic, but it might not matter.  In politics, impressions trump intention. 
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Re: WTF did Trump do to the stock market?
« Reply #207 on: April 03, 2020, 06:13:59 PM »
So, Kemp cites a new number that the CDC placed on asymptomatic cases -- that the number of people who have the coronavirus but are asymptomatic may be as high as 25 percent.  The problem is that the idea that those people were transmitting the virus isn’t new at all.

The CDC and public health officials around the world started emphasizing that asymptomatic people are transmitting the coronavirus weeks and even months ago.  In fact, Anthony Fauci was talking about asymptomatic transmission more than two months ago.
https://www.whitehouse.gov/briefings-statements/press-briefing-members-presidents-coronavirus-task-force/

The CDC, which is headquartered in Atlanta, issued guidance as early as March 1, stating that asymptomatic people could indeed spread the coronavirus, even as it emphasized that people with symptoms were more likely to be contagious.
https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/prevent-getting-sick/how-covid-spreads.html?CDC_AA_refVal=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.cdc.gov%2Fcoronavirus%2F2019-ncov%2Fprepare%2Ftransmission.html

Deborah Birx said last month that young people in particular could be spreading the virus without knowing.  “Until you really understand how many people are asymptomatic and asymptomatically passing the virus on, we think it’s better for the entire American public to know that the risk of serious illness may be low, but they could be potentially spreading the virus to others,” Birx said.  She added, “That’s why we’re asking every American to take personal responsibility to prevent that spread.”
https://www.theeagle.com/opinion/columnists/georgia-gov-brian-kemp-who-resisted-strict-coronavirus-measures-says-he-just-learned-it-transmits/article_154db424-5651-5ad3-b109-21aed74ad621.html

For Kemp to say he just learned “that this virus is now transmitting before people see signs” is ludicrous.  The real problem for Kemp was that like some other governors around the country he was resisting increased calls from local officials to issue a statewide shelter-at-home order.   
https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2020/04/01/states-like-florida-lag-coronavirus-response-white-house-declines-push-harder/

Kemp’s just another example of a politician attempting to BS his way out of extremely poor decision making, feign ignorance when in fact the information was fairly common knowledge months earlier.
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Re: WTF did Trump do to the stock market?
« Reply #208 on: April 03, 2020, 06:41:49 PM »
I think you're overestimating Kemp's intelligence. I think it's perfectly possible that he's just that stupid.
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Re: WTF did Trump do to the stock market?
« Reply #209 on: April 04, 2020, 09:35:28 AM »
"You don't need a weatherman to know which way the wind blows"
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