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Re: Underwood
« Reply #195 on: March 21, 2021, 06:25:49 PM »
Quote from: Custard on March 21, 2021, 06:09:31 PM
After calling out the Chicago Cynics I suppose I was due for some “I told you so” but it still doesn’t take a Mensa to bet against Illinois athletics. I was telling people to soak it all up as it unfolded over the last few weeks because it could be over just like *that* and here we are.

While today really fucking sucked I’m glad I enjoyed those moments rather than worrying about what might go wrong and still being pissed today anyways.

Agreed.
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« Reply #196 on: March 21, 2021, 06:35:46 PM »
I see a lot of guys giving Hulka a free pass for the game today.
Yeah, we had great run the last month. I give the staff and team credit for that.

Coaches earn their reps in tourney, however.

We just shit the bed in legendary fashion.

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« Reply #197 on: March 21, 2021, 06:39:01 PM »
If we played well, and lost. So be it.
We didnt. That's the disappointing part.
Loyola came to play and played well. We better learn from this.
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« Reply #198 on: March 21, 2021, 06:40:12 PM »
Quote from: Lkdog on March 21, 2021, 06:35:46 PM
I see a lot of guys giving Hulka a free pass for the game today.
Yeah, we had great run the last month. I give the staff and team credit for that.

Coaches earn their reps in tourney, however.

We just shit the bed in legendary fashion.

Underwood is another classic Groce, Weber etc. He just lucked into a halfways decent team this year that coached itself after the first 75% of the season because Underwood couldn’t. Underwood made ZERO adjustments at halftime and I’ll tell you what happened at halftime. They went into that locker room and said, hey, were the #1 seed, so sooner or later Loyola will just fold and it didn’t happen. Underwood is fools gold folks for 3.5 million a year. Underwood is about as smart as the Bears brass for giving Andy Dalton 10 million a year and the starting job.
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« Reply #199 on: March 21, 2021, 06:45:44 PM »
Quote from: Mn on March 21, 2021, 06:39:01 PM
If we played well, and lost. So be it.
We didnt. That's the disappointing part.
Loyola came to play and played well. We better learn from this.

Who the fuck is left who is going to learn? We likely lose 4 of our 8 man rotation and 3 leading scorers.
If Kofi  stays, we could be decent, but I don't see it.
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« Reply #200 on: March 21, 2021, 06:51:28 PM »
Quote from: Lkdog on March 21, 2021, 06:35:46 PM
I see a lot of guys giving Hulka a free pass for the game today.
Yeah, we had great run the last month. I give the staff and team credit for that.

Coaches earn their reps in tourney, however.

We just shit the bed in legendary fashion.

I have yet to see anybody give Underwood a free pass for today. We’re all disappointed with the outcome today.

On the other hand, what do you want done about it that we shit the bed today? What are you advocating?!
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« Reply #201 on: March 21, 2021, 07:03:55 PM »
Quote from: Lkdog on March 21, 2021, 06:45:44 PM
Who the fuck is left who is going to learn? We likely lose 4 of our 8 man rotation and 3 leading scorers.
If Kofi  stays, we could be decent, but I don't see it.

You can't just not show up at this level.
We looked out-quicked for 40 minutes.
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« Reply #202 on: March 21, 2021, 07:06:04 PM »
Thinking back on it, this is the type of loss we’d have gotten under Lou Henson. Bless his soul.
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"He commented more than once that, 'You know, Hitler did some good things, too,'" Kelly recalled to The Times. Kelly said he would usually quash the conversation by saying "nothing (Hitler) did, you could argue, was good," but that Trump would occasionally bring up the topic again.
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« Reply #203 on: March 21, 2021, 07:37:25 PM »
Quote from: Judge Judy on March 21, 2021, 06:51:28 PM
I have yet to see anybody give Underwood a free pass for today. We’re all disappointed with the outcome today.

On the other hand, what do you want done about it that we shit the bed today? What are you advocating?!


Nothing we can do obviously. Hulka has made it clear he doesn't give a fck what fans think. He can get away with that right now.

I think he has had some beginning success here, but has now dug a nice hole for himself.

If we get back to NCAAs again and his huggybear light thing gets our ass handed to him again, then we get rid of him.
If he can add some coaching chops and get us to second weekend he stays.
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« Reply #204 on: March 21, 2021, 07:51:06 PM »
Quote from: Lkdog on March 21, 2021, 07:37:25 PM

Nothing we can do obviously. Hulka has made it clear he doesn't give a fck what fans think. He can get away with that right now.

I think he has had some beginning success here, but has now dug a nice hole for himself.

If we get back to NCAAs again and his huggybear light thing gets our ass handed to him again, then we get rid of him.
If he can add some coaching chops and get us to second weekend he stays.

I really don’t get this way of thinking AT ALL. Very strange way of looking at things I suppose. Should a coach care what you think? Should a player? You don’t think he realizes they fell short today as a team?

Dude today sucked. Period. It was one game. Underwood took us to our first tourney game in 8 years. Would’ve been last year if not for COVID, so two in a row. Some would say the overall season exceeded their expectations. Not the ending we wanted, but damn. I think we’re on the right track.
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Re: Underwood
« Reply #205 on: March 21, 2021, 07:57:42 PM »
Quote from: Lkdog on March 21, 2021, 07:37:25 PM

Nothing we can do obviously. Hulka has made it clear he doesn't give a fck what fans think. He can get away with that right now.

I think he has had some beginning success here, but has now dug a nice hole for himself.

If we get back to NCAAs again and his huggybear light thing gets our ass handed to him again, then we get rid of him.
If he can add some coaching chops and get us to second weekend he stays.

I’ve often referred to a thing I call “failing at a high level.” Lou Henson did it, Bill Self does it. I’ll take a steady dose of failure if you are consistently very good and have the occasional break through.
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Re: Underwood
« Reply #206 on: March 21, 2021, 08:01:52 PM »
Quote from: Tempo34 on March 21, 2021, 07:06:04 PM
Thinking back on it, this is the type of loss we’d have gotten under Lou Henson. Bless his soul.

A  Henson team would have woke up, made a late run, and grabbed the lead. Then lost it on some bizarre last second play.
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« Reply #207 on: March 21, 2021, 08:03:18 PM »
Quote from: illiniray on March 21, 2021, 08:01:52 PM
A  Henson team would have woke up, made a late run, and grabbed the lead. Then lost it on some bizarre last second play.

Excellent point.
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"He commented more than once that, 'You know, Hitler did some good things, too,'" Kelly recalled to The Times. Kelly said he would usually quash the conversation by saying "nothing (Hitler) did, you could argue, was good," but that Trump would occasionally bring up the topic again.
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Re: Underwood
« Reply #208 on: March 21, 2021, 08:08:33 PM »
Quote from: Tempotime on March 21, 2021, 06:40:12 PM
Underwood is another classic Groce, Weber etc.
Hello, Brah. What's up at the Plaza 21 tollbooth these days?
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Re: Underwood
« Reply #209 on: March 21, 2021, 08:24:56 PM »
Quote from: Judge Judy on March 21, 2021, 07:51:06 PM
I really don’t get this way of thinking AT ALL. Very strange way of looking at things I suppose. Should a coach care what you think? Should a player? You don’t think he realizes they fell short today as a team?

Dude today sucked. Period. It was one game. Underwood took us to our first tourney game in 8 years. Would’ve been last year if not for COVID, so two in a row. Some would say the overall season exceeded their expectations. Not the ending we wanted, but damn. I think we’re on the right track.


I think we have very low expectations since we have had so many years of abject failure.

This isn't like we were a 9 seed and got beat by an 8.

We were ranked 2 in the country and a 1 seed.  We just had one of worst melt downs in tourney and arguably the worst loss in our history. Complete lack of preparation. Who was the scout on this?
We had 7 days to get ready since last Sunday. We knew what they were going to do.
We could barely hold onto the ball and had
no clue on D or O.

The tourney is what you work toward.
It's a harsh reality that the rest is just participation medals.
This isn't little kids soccer where you give out juice boxes and medals to all.

You get what you accept I guess.
I think support him with expectation that he has to compete better in tourney and he is on short leash now.

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