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Re: Underwood
« Reply #165 on: March 21, 2021, 03:42:03 PM »
So apparently Underwood wasn’t hailed by this crowd as a real
coup in the coaching department. What’s your recollection of this? And what was everyone excited about? Was it his stellar recruiting as a major D1 HC of one year?

I recall that he was expected to yell at Black kids to toughen them up and have plenty of bag men. And the defensive scheme.
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Re: Underwood
« Reply #166 on: March 21, 2021, 03:42:58 PM »
Tempo has a longstanding reputation for coming across as self-loathing. Maybe that’s his actual personality, or maybe it’s just a message board schtick. Regardless, no one should be surprised by it.

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Re: Underwood
« Reply #167 on: March 21, 2021, 03:49:32 PM »
The performance today was not only pathetic, but, unacceptable.
Which is part of being a big program and bearable if we're back in the tournament next year as a top 6 seed.

But if we miss the tournament next year, IMO Whitman basically just tacked 2 years on Underwood's contract for no reason.


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Re: Underwood
« Reply #168 on: March 21, 2021, 03:50:13 PM »
Nobody had or is “crowning” Underwood. You can’t deny he’s done a damn good job in the short time he’s been here. Exceeding expectations it appears by even surprising Tempo enough for him to come on here and give a backhanded apology. Apparently according to him, nobody thought we’d be where we were this fast this year.

So which is it? Is he a good coach doing a good job and exceeding expectations, or a terrible coach who needs fired? I’d say he’s a good coach who turned around the perception and expectations of this program much faster than anyone excepted and reached levels we haven’t seen in 15 years. Now, unlike Weber, let’s see if he can sustain it. It appears we have a bright future though with the uptick in talent. Today was one game. A very important game, but that doesn’t diminish what they accomplished this year. Remember, only one coach can win it all every year. If that’s the only measurement, of course Tempo’s and PAM’s of the world are going to be “right.” Whatever the fuck that means. Congratulations, I guess. Not sure what all the gloating is for. Again, what is it you’re trying to prove or would wanna see change with the program if you have it all “figured out.”
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Re: Underwood
« Reply #169 on: March 21, 2021, 03:57:03 PM »
I'd say B overall with a chance to move to A or D depending on what happens next year.

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Re: Underwood
« Reply #170 on: March 21, 2021, 04:11:43 PM »
Tempo has a longstanding reputation for coming across as self-loathing. Maybe that’s his actual personality, or maybe it’s just a message board schtick. Regardless, no one should be surprised by it.

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"He commented more than once that, 'You know, Hitler did some good things, too,'" Kelly recalled to The Times. Kelly said he would usually quash the conversation by saying "nothing (Hitler) did, you could argue, was good," but that Trump would occasionally bring up the topic again.

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Re: Underwood
« Reply #171 on: March 21, 2021, 04:19:31 PM »
I’m not looking to throw Underwood under the bus, or to replace him or anything like that. He’s far exceeded what I thought he’d do in year 4 even if going from my thoughts of two years ago. I will say that this loss is probably the toughest tourney loss we’ve had in nearly 40 years, with the only possible exception the ‘01 loss. But at least then we lost to a team many thought was at least as good, or perhaps better than us. Unlikely, but if Ayo and Kofi or even one of them were to return it would lessen the sting a good bit.

Overall, the program is clearly moving in the right direction; but this was a really strong opportunity to reach the championship game. Really only perhaps the 3rd time we could call ourselves a favorite to do so in my not so young anymore lifetime. I’m excited about the future, but this was a missed opportunity; and our history suggests we only get this close maybe every 15 years or so.
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"He commented more than once that, 'You know, Hitler did some good things, too,'" Kelly recalled to The Times. Kelly said he would usually quash the conversation by saying "nothing (Hitler) did, you could argue, was good," but that Trump would occasionally bring up the topic again.

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Re: Underwood
« Reply #172 on: March 21, 2021, 04:21:32 PM »
I’m not looking to throw Underwood under the bus, or to replace him or anything like that. He’s far exceeded what I thought he’d do in year 4 even if going from my thoughts of two years ago. I will say that this loss is probably the toughest tourney loss we’ve had in nearly 40 years, with the only possible exception the ‘01 loss. But at least then we lost to a team many thought was at least as good, or perhaps better than us. Unlikely, but if Ayo and Kofi or even one of them were to return it would lessen the sting a good bit.

Overall, the program is clearly moving in the right direction; but this was a really strong opportunity to reach the championship game. Really only perhaps the 3rd time we could call ourselves a favorite to do so in my not so young anymore lifetime. I’m excited about the future, but this was a missed opportunity; and our history suggests we only get this close maybe every 15 years or so.

So wtf are you on here gloating about?! 🤔
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Re: Underwood
« Reply #173 on: March 21, 2021, 04:26:02 PM »
Haven’t heard much about the pinch post lately
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Re: Underwood
« Reply #174 on: March 21, 2021, 04:31:57 PM »
So wtf are you on here gloating about?! 🤔

You think I’m gloating? As usual, I’m just offering small doses of realism.
"He commented more than once that, 'You know, Hitler did some good things, too,'" Kelly recalled to The Times. Kelly said he would usually quash the conversation by saying "nothing (Hitler) did, you could argue, was good," but that Trump would occasionally bring up the topic again.

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« Reply #175 on: March 21, 2021, 04:36:21 PM »
Yes, we were an imperfect (but quite good) team. This was a very “gettable” year for us. There were no Kentucky, Duke, North Carolina, Kansas, Arizona juggernauts to deal with. The only team that looked possibly clearly better than us was Gonzaga. And for the last 6-7 weeks we looked as good as anyone.
"He commented more than once that, 'You know, Hitler did some good things, too,'" Kelly recalled to The Times. Kelly said he would usually quash the conversation by saying "nothing (Hitler) did, you could argue, was good," but that Trump would occasionally bring up the topic again.

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Re: Underwood
« Reply #176 on: March 21, 2021, 04:51:48 PM »
You think I’m gloating? As usual, I’m just offering small doses of realism.

So what’s the dose of realism?!

You think because fans were excited, cheering, and happy with this season before today that we had somehow “crowned” Underwood?! You’ve posted more on here degrading him and the Illini than you ever have enjoying it. It’s almost like you come on here with something to prove yourself right about (see Custard’s self-loathing comment about you). About what exactly is the question? We’re all disappointed, but that doesn’t take away from what Underwood has done here so far. Like I previously said, he could be on the unemployment line where your boy Archie is.
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« Reply #177 on: March 21, 2021, 05:06:55 PM »
Jesus, I thought I was the (liberal) snowflake.
"He commented more than once that, 'You know, Hitler did some good things, too,'" Kelly recalled to The Times. Kelly said he would usually quash the conversation by saying "nothing (Hitler) did, you could argue, was good," but that Trump would occasionally bring up the topic again.

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Re: Underwood
« Reply #178 on: March 21, 2021, 05:07:48 PM »
I will give Coach Hulka a B-/C+ overall.
About a month ago he finally got them to start playing defense and to be better mentally prepared after some close calls against bottom feeders.
We were looking more like we were going to be a 3/4 seed rather than a 1.

Can't argue with the nice run since then. Give credit to the increase in intensity finally instilled in this group.
We did same thing last year in second half. 

Today was very bad loss. No other way to describe it. As a #1 seed the only acceptable loss is in EE really.

I would rank this as maybe one of worst, or maybe the worst collapse in Illini tourney history. Our tourney run lasted all of 48 hours.
The lack of any in game adjustments was typical for Coach Hulka , and he let them dictate everything on both sides of the ball.
We had no D options all year except a quasi contain half court man. No offense really all year except transition run outs as much as possible, dump down to Kofi, and a high PnR for Ayo.
I laughed when the halftime reporter said Hulka told her we needed to play tougher and get the ball to Kofi more.


Moving forward we will see what happens. He has some rebuilding to do. Ayo is off to the NBA. Kofi would be better off going to G league or even at end of NBA bench to work full time to improve his
shooting, passing, defending. He should land on a roster someday.

We supposedly have a few high ranking guards sniffing around.
We will be a borderline tourney team at best unless we land a couple recruiting surprises.
It also could go south.

I like his approach to the game in terms of a culture of toughness. He needs to improve as an X and O coach. He better hold onto Antigua and Coleman.








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Re: Underwood
« Reply #179 on: March 21, 2021, 05:08:59 PM »
This is why I’m done. I can’t spend any more time on a tempo’d up board. Fuck that. It’s just no fun.

Yeah man, I hear ya. Idk what the fuck he’s trying to prove. Him and ThePAMan are just miserable fucks. They come on and somehow have to gloat about shit when there’s no point to it. They’re the trolls. Just wanna stir shit.
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