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Re: Underwood
« Reply #180 on: March 21, 2021, 05:28:23 PM »
No need to cannabalize each other here. Tough loss, but JFC a couple weeks before Brad Underwood took this job Illinois got manhandled by a Michigan team that had just survived a fucking airplane crash and was wearing their practice uniforms. Not long after that game, Illinois was handled by UCF in the NIT.

Fast forward to 2021:

23-6 reg season, 16-4 in a tough conference, moonpounded #2 MI on the road without Ayo, (IL had never won @#1 or 2) won BTT, won 16/17 going into tourney, won 3 away games against ranked opponents including 2 top 10s in one week, two AP All Americans, a Curbelo on freshman all B1G team and 6th man of the year award, and the coaching staff gets a C grade? All that other stuff doesn’t just go away because they lost on a neutral court to a veteran well-coached top 20 team while uncharacteristically missing a lot of shots in the paint.

And let’s not forget last years team was headed for a 5-7 seed and was ranked 21st when the season was whistled dead.
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« Reply #181 on: March 21, 2021, 05:35:58 PM »
Quote from: Custard on March 21, 2021, 05:28:23 PM
No need to cannabalize each other here. Tough loss, but JFC a couple weeks before Brad Underwood took this job Illinois got manhandled by a Michigan team that had just survived a fucking airplane crash and was wearing their practice uniforms. Not long after that game, Illinois was handled by UCF in the NIT.

Fast forward to 2021:

23-6 reg season, 16-4 in a tough conference, moonpounded #2 MI on the road without Ayo, (IL had never won @#1 or 2) won BTT, won 16/17 going into tourney, won 3 away games against ranked opponents including 2 top 10s in one week, two AP All Americans, a Curbelo on freshman all B1G team and 6th man of the year award, and the coaching staff gets a C grade? All that other stuff doesn’t just go away because they lost on a neutral court to a veteran well-coached top 20 team while uncharacteristically missing a lot of shots in the paint.

And let’s not forget last years team was headed for a 5-7 seed and was ranked 21st when the season was whistled dead.

That’s not realism like Tempo spouts on here....🙄

Like him and ThePAMan acted like they won the lottery today when we fucking lost. I don’t get it.
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« Reply #182 on: March 21, 2021, 05:36:18 PM »
Yeah I'll take an entire season of success over a single shit showing against an extremely under seeded team every day of the week.  Yea it fucking sucks, we were totally contenders but shit happens like this every year in the tournament... we need to have sustained success in the regular season to keep reloading on the recruiting trail and maybe one year we'll catch lightning in a bottle and win it all, but to say the season is a failure and the coach sucks after one two hour game today is a pretty crap take.
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Re: Underwood
« Reply #183 on: March 21, 2021, 05:37:15 PM »
Quote from: Judge Judy on March 21, 2021, 05:35:58 PM
That’s not realism like Tempo spouts on here....🙄

Like him and ThePAMan acted like they won the lottery today when we fucking lost. I don’t get it.

If that’s the way you see it, guess I can’t change it. I’m pretty dejected. I was pretty confident in a title game run.
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« Reply #184 on: March 21, 2021, 05:39:30 PM »
Quote from: Tempo34 on March 21, 2021, 05:37:15 PM
If that’s the way you see it, guess I can’t change it. I’m pretty dejected. I was pretty confident in a title game run.

Well over half the board would disagree with that. And Custard’s take is absolutely correct and “realism.” Not the shit you’re spouting.
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« Reply #185 on: March 21, 2021, 05:40:43 PM »
Quote from: Tempo34 on March 15, 2021, 11:27:44 AM
I’m here to give Underwood credit and say I was mostly wrong (sort of) about whether he would turn around the program. He’s far exceeded his first contract expectations. I do think he’s been incredibly lucky. I’m not sure he’s a Final Four favorite if not for Covid.

There were some unforeseen things that worked out to his advantage. Ayo staying 3 years, Kofi essentially emerging as the best true big our program has ever had (anyone who said they saw that coming was just being an optimistic homer). Curbelo is something else. Did Antigua deliver bother Kofi and Curbelo? If so, give him the co-MVC

Regardless of how we got here, Underwood has far exceeded my expectations to this point and for that he deserves my (mostly) mea culpa. This team has grown before our very eyes and has been a joy to watch. Not sure anyone can beat Gonzaga, but I sure hope they get a chance.

I’m also pleased there’s been no embarrassing PR lately. And having said all of the above, I’d still rather have Shaka Smart. Even if it has taken him a while to find real success at Texas.

If that’s not a Tempo style Pat on the back to Underwood, what is?!
Good job Coach U.

Let’s be honest here based on the results of today’s game concerning Underwood. I’ll make this short simple and sweet. We came out and got our butts kicked in the first half. We then went to the locker room at halftime, took a nap, then came out in the second half and got our butts kicked again. Now tell me again why Underwood is getting 3.5 million a year for because it certainly isn’t for coaching and THAT was proven today. Bottom line is the past few weeks we were playing with fools gold and the run of a lifetime. What you saw today was the team before Ayo’s injury at absolutely rock bottom. End rant
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« Reply #186 on: March 21, 2021, 05:49:21 PM »
Quote from: Tempotime on March 21, 2021, 05:40:43 PM
Let’s be honest here based on the results of today’s game concerning Underwood. I’ll make this short simple and sweet. We came out and got our butts kicked in the first half. We then went to the locker room at halftime, took a nap, then came out in the second half and got our butts kicked again. Now tell me again why Underwood is getting 3.5 million a year for because it certainly isn’t for coaching and THAT was proven today. Bottom line is the past few weeks we were playing with fools gold and the run of a lifetime. What you saw today was the team before Ayo’s injury at absolutely rock bottom. End rant

Lol another Tempo parody. I’ve yet to see one that was very good to my recollection. You’re off to a decidedly mediocre start.
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« Reply #187 on: March 21, 2021, 05:52:04 PM »
Actually, I’m really unaware of what I’ve said that’s so objectionable outside of I’d rather have Shaka. I have nothing but praise for Underwood based one the last couple of years; today’s manhandling notwithstanding. I think achieving a 1 seed in 4 years is pretty remarkable.
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"He commented more than once that, 'You know, Hitler did some good things, too,'" Kelly recalled to The Times. Kelly said he would usually quash the conversation by saying "nothing (Hitler) did, you could argue, was good," but that Trump would occasionally bring up the topic again.
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« Reply #188 on: March 21, 2021, 05:53:58 PM »
About the only qualifier I’ve added is that I think he benefited from Covid, which he almost certainly did.
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Re: Underwood
« Reply #189 on: March 21, 2021, 05:54:08 PM »
Quote from: Tempotime on March 21, 2021, 05:40:43 PM
Let’s be honest here based on the results of today’s game concerning Underwood. I’ll make this short simple and sweet. We came out and got our butts kicked in the first half. We then went to the locker room at halftime, took a nap, then came out in the second half and got our butts kicked again. Now tell me again why Underwood is getting 3.5 million a year for because it certainly isn’t for coaching and THAT was proven today. Bottom line is the past few weeks we were playing with fools gold and the run of a lifetime. What you saw today was the team before Ayo’s injury at absolutely rock bottom. End rant

Not a good parody at all. Back to the drawing board.
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Re: Underwood
« Reply #190 on: March 21, 2021, 05:54:57 PM »
Quote from: Tempo34 on March 15, 2021, 11:27:44 AM
I’m here to give Underwood credit and say I was mostly wrong (sort of) about whether he would turn around the program. He’s far exceeded his first contract expectations. I do think he’s been incredibly lucky. I’m not sure he’s a Final Four favorite if not for Covid.

There were some unforeseen things that worked out to his advantage. Ayo staying 3 years, Kofi essentially emerging as the best true big our program has ever had (anyone who said they saw that coming was just being an optimistic homer). Curbelo is something else. Did Antigua deliver bother Kofi and Curbelo? If so, give him the co-MVC

Regardless of how we got here, Underwood has far exceeded my expectations to this point and for that he deserves my (mostly) mea culpa. This team has grown before our very eyes and has been a joy to watch. Not sure anyone can beat Gonzaga, but I sure hope they get a chance.

I’m also pleased there’s been no embarrassing PR lately. And having said all of the above, I’d still rather have Shaka Smart. Even if it has taken him a while to find real success at Texas.

If that’s not a Tempo style Pat on the back to Underwood, what is?!
Good job Coach U.

Here’s my snippet of the entire season. First part of the season this team was unwatchable period and I don’t care what anyone says because it’s pretty much indisputable. Preseason #6, Last second buzzer beater win against a mid major, at one point were 9-5 and ranked #21. The Maryland game was the turning point for me as we just stopped playing the last 3 minutes, quit and gave the game away and that was the last televised game I watched until the Ayo injury. Even during the “winning streak” before Ayos injury we were still playing down to opponents levels and barely winning games that our superior teams of the past would’ve won by 20+. Ayo gets hurt and magically we start playing out of our minds while looking really good and I start watching again because it finally started looking like a team. Ayo comes back and we kept winning, but the Ohio State game in the BTT was the precursor for me as OSU basically gave that game away while we hung on. Now there’s a few of us who have the balls to point it out while others won’t, but we played better without Ayo period and I know people won’t like that, but that’s the reality. This game today is mostly on Underwood, but Ayo played his part as well and I sensed this result would come sooner or later. It just came way sooner than later.
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« Reply #191 on: March 21, 2021, 06:09:31 PM »
Quote from: Judge Judy on March 21, 2021, 05:35:58 PM
Like him and ThePAMan acted like they won the lottery today when we fucking lost. I don’t get it.

After calling out the Chicago Cynics I suppose I was due for some “I told you so” but it still doesn’t take a Mensa to bet against Illinois athletics. I was telling people to soak it all up as it unfolded over the last few weeks because it could be over just like *that* and here we are.

While today really fucking sucked I’m glad I enjoyed those moments rather than worrying about what might go wrong and still being pissed today anyways.
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Re: Underwood
« Reply #192 on: March 21, 2021, 06:13:51 PM »
Quote from: Custard on March 21, 2021, 06:09:31 PM
After calling out the Chicago Cynics I suppose I was due for some “I told you so” but it still doesn’t take a Mensa to bet against Illinois athletics. I was telling people to soak it all up as it unfolded over the last few weeks because it could be over just like *that* and here we are.

While today really fucking sucked I’m glad I enjoyed those moments rather than worrying about what might go wrong and still being pissed today anyways.

I’m with ya. The last 4 weeks have been the best we’ve seen since at least ‘06.
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« Reply #193 on: March 21, 2021, 06:18:05 PM »
While today no doubt sucked, Underwood has made Illini basketball relevant  again. I want us to go back to being in the tourney every year. You have to get in to have a chance to win it all. We do seem to be on an upward trajectory for that. I still believe in Underwood until he gives me reason not to anymore, and that’s not today at all. It was simply not our day, and Loyola had a ton to do with that.
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Re: Underwood
« Reply #194 on: March 21, 2021, 06:21:09 PM »
If only Mosier had taken the St Johns job
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