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WTF is the deal with the caronavirus?

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Re: WTF is the deal with the caronavirus?
« Reply #4680 on: August 18, 2022, 12:29:44 PM »
Quote from: ThePAMan on August 18, 2022, 11:18:24 AM
I am keeping an open mind!
Which you've pretty much done all along.
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Re: WTF is the deal with the caronavirus?
« Reply #4681 on: August 18, 2022, 01:48:11 PM »
Quote from: Mn on August 18, 2022, 12:29:44 PM
Which you've pretty much done all along.

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Again, I am not interpreting things here.

Then he proceeds to interpret things:

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What strikes me most in retrospect concerning the idea of the lab leak is the following. During the most critical weeks leading up to the obvious spread of the virus all over the Northeast of the U.S., leading to incredible carnage in nursing homes due to egregious policies that failed to protect the vulnerable and even deliberately infected them, public health officials in the US and UK were consumed not with a proper health response but with fear of dealing with the probability that this virus was man-made in China.

They deliberated in secret. They used burner phones. They spoke only to their trusted colleagues. This went on for more than a month from late January 2020 to early March. Whether this virus originated as a lab leak or not in this case is not so much the issue; there is no question that Farrar, Collins, Fauci, and company all believed that it was likely and even probable, and they spent their time and energies plotting the spin. This fear consumed them entirely at the very moment when their job was to be thinking of the best public-health response.


I am going to guess they were doing both and one, knowing the source of the virus, could help with two, response to the virus.

It certainly looks like they took it seriously, at the start, that its origins could be from a lab leak. Not sure this does anything to advance resolution of the source. 
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Re: WTF is the deal with the caronavirus?
« Reply #4682 on: August 18, 2022, 03:55:10 PM »
it is weird that Republicans have anything to do with the Washington Times, let alone the Epoch Times.
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Re: WTF is the deal with the caronavirus?
« Reply #4683 on: August 18, 2022, 03:59:43 PM »
Quote from: ThePAMan on August 18, 2022, 01:48:11 PM
Then he proceeds to interpret things:
 

I am going to guess they were doing both and one, knowing the source of the virus, could help with two, response to the virus.

It certainly looks like they took it seriously, at the start, that its origins could be from a lab leak. Not sure this does anything to advance resolution of the source. 
If only there was a way to gather some information.
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Re: WTF is the deal with the caronavirus?
« Reply #4684 on: August 19, 2022, 08:07:20 AM »
NIAID funds EcoHealth, with input from the Bat Lady, to design a study and write about it.

https://www.nature.com/articles/s41467-022-31860-w

"Given the challenges of identifying the origins of COVID-19 and pathways by which SARS-CoV-2 spilled over to people34,35, our results may also aid efforts to identify the geographic sites where spillover first occurred."

Citation 34 refers to an article about the WHO convening a global study. Possibly referring to the group that included Daszak , and went to Wuhan for a month to quarantine for 2 weeks before taking chaperoned tours of WIV.
Citation 35 refers to an article authored by, among others, 4 of the 5 Proximal Origin authors, Jeremy Farrar and Michael Worobey.
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Re: WTF is the deal with the caronavirus?
« Reply #4685 on: August 19, 2022, 01:06:36 PM »
Quote from: Mn on August 19, 2022, 08:07:20 AM

https://www.nature.com/articles/s41467-022-31860-w


That technical data  is above my job description, but it looks like good science.
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Re: WTF is the deal with the caronavirus?
« Reply #4686 on: August 19, 2022, 02:25:04 PM »
Quote from: illiniray on August 19, 2022, 01:06:36 PM
That technical data  is above my job description, but it looks like good science.
Imagine that. Yes, it looks to have possible benefit; instead of you take this little thing and put it over here and, well, I didn't do it. My colleagues did it.
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Re: WTF is the deal with the caronavirus?
« Reply #4687 on: August 19, 2022, 09:06:35 PM »
I'll retract my opinion of the article.

Ecohealth authors an article published 8--9-2022 regarding their fine work, but neglects to point out that an acknowledged funding grant from NIAID has been suspended since 7-8-2020.

"We acknowledge funding from the National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases of the National Institutes of Health (R01AI110964 & NIAID-CREID U01AI151797 “EID-SEARCH”),"

From a letter dated today to James Comer,





The letter also includes,


'Lab notebooks and original electronic files have not been provided by WIV.'

I thought the grant number looked familiar when I read the study.
After 2+ years, NIH gives WIV a we'll show you. We're not giving you any more money.

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Nature Communications thanks Emma Glennon, James Hassell, Renata Muylaert and the other, anonymous, reviewer(s) for their contribution to the peer review of this work.

GMAFB
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Re: WTF is the deal with the caronavirus?
« Reply #4688 on: August 19, 2022, 09:18:17 PM »
They should have credited you
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Re: WTF is the deal with the caronavirus?
« Reply #4689 on: August 20, 2022, 06:54:11 AM »
Quote from: ThePAMan on August 19, 2022, 09:18:17 PM
They should have credited you
"All authors approved the submitted manuscript and agree to be held accountable for their own contributions and ensure that questions related to the accuracy or integrity of any part of the work are appropriately investigated, resolved, and the resolution documented in the literature."

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Re: WTF is the deal with the caronavirus?
« Reply #4690 on: August 22, 2022, 10:32:57 AM »
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Re: WTF is the deal with the caronavirus?
« Reply #4691 on: August 22, 2022, 09:02:30 PM »
Grab his passport(s).
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Re: WTF is the deal with the caronavirus?
« Reply #4692 on: August 23, 2022, 09:30:45 AM »
Who's going to kick Rand Paul's ass in Senate hearings after he retires?
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Re: WTF is the deal with the caronavirus?
« Reply #4693 on: August 23, 2022, 12:36:06 PM »
Quote from: alum74 on August 23, 2022, 09:30:45 AM
Who's going to kick Rand Paul's ass in Senate hearings after he retires?

His neighbor?
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Re: WTF is the deal with the caronavirus?
« Reply #4694 on: August 26, 2022, 07:25:52 AM »
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