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WTF is the deal with the caronavirus?

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Re: WTF is the deal with the caronavirus?
« Reply #4560 on: April 22, 2022, 04:50:40 PM »
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Re: WTF is the deal with the caronavirus?
« Reply #4561 on: April 27, 2022, 03:16:47 PM »
This is a pretty good clip. I think you can really pull a couple of items out of here that really underscore how

1) Good people who get into leadership positions have to compromise their message to deal with the moronic part of leadership

2) A lot of leadership is morons.



1) Fauci saying we are out of the pandemic stage. We are all feeling that but the numbers right now are as bad as many time slices of the past 2 years. We are still at 325 deaths daily, which would be double a bad flu year. Cases are actually pretty high for any time that isn't "Omicron peak". I think he's probably in the position where he knows the hospitals aren't completely fubar and is getting decent cooperation from Biden, all the non-idiots are vaccinated and will probably be fine, so just throw in the towel and let those 325 idiots who get unlucky die per day.

2) China lockdowns. That's some serious bad leadership. Even at the beginning we knew it wasn't like the genie could go back in the bottle and we get COVID to zero and it's gone - even the most strict inhumane policy, there would be at least one new patient zero and it would roar back very quickly. If the US had to start over (magically removing our fatigue) - we'd do a lot of things differently, quicker on the masks, lighter hand on outdoor stuff, etc... and probably hit a sweeter spot. But the Chinese are now going into a ridiculous lockdown despite this hindsight, and their leaders are too proud to pull in foreign MRNA vaccines that they have the ability to just jam in everyone's arms because they are a repressive state, but no they are sticking with Sinovac

3) Kamala taking Paxlovid. You can't say follow the science over and over and then not follow the science. "The science" doesn't indicate that she needs Paxlovid. She's taking it anyway because it's a scientifically approved COVID treatment in general, see I'm doing the right thing, sort of a proxy for vaccination, but she's taking it outside of recommended protocol. When you don't follow the actual scientific protocol, it opens the doors for the charlatans because who the hell knows what's really the science.
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Re: WTF is the deal with the caronavirus?
« Reply #4562 on: May 05, 2022, 11:23:29 AM »
Anyone with a brain saw this coming a mile away and we were sneered at by the left for it ! Funny all the news finally trickling out proving that the right was right about the Rona all along !

https://www.nytimes.com/2022/05/05/briefing/school-closures-covid-learning-loss.html
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Re: WTF is the deal with the caronavirus?
« Reply #4563 on: May 05, 2022, 11:59:43 AM »
Quote from: IlliniGolf on May 05, 2022, 11:23:29 AM
Anyone with a brain saw this coming a mile away and we were sneered at by the left for it ! Funny all the news finally trickling out proving that the right was right about the Rona all along !

https://www.nytimes.com/2022/05/05/briefing/school-closures-covid-learning-loss.html

Golf trusting the Failing NY Times. Looks like he has gone to the Dark Side.
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Re: WTF is the deal with the caronavirus?
« Reply #4564 on: May 05, 2022, 02:44:04 PM »
Must've missed this:
"Over the past two years, the U.S. has suffered two very different Covid problems. Many Americans have underreacted to the pandemic, refusing to take lifesaving vaccines. Many others have overreacted, overlooking the large and unequal costs of allowing Covid to dominate daily life for months on end."

btw, From watching Fox News, the right wing has simply declared, without evidence, they were right about vaccines and masks.
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Re: WTF is the deal with the caronavirus?
« Reply #4565 on: May 11, 2022, 03:23:43 PM »
Went out to grab a La Costena (yum). Many unmasked people - well sure, if you are willing to dine in, you can't eat with a mask. I was wearing one myself. So...

Some burly dude looks over at me and gives me "the look" and then lets out a couple of big hacks and smiles.

I took off my mask so he could very clearly hear me "why the hell did you cover your mouth, you fucking snowflake"

"Would it be RUDE to cough without covering your mouth with your hand? What kind of thought police declared that? And why are you subjugating yourself to this freedom killing bullshit?"
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Re: WTF is the deal with the caronavirus?
« Reply #4566 on: May 24, 2022, 11:05:12 PM »
Mother in law, 82, outside of Lincoln, has COVID, per a rapid test.

Goes to the doctor in Lincoln for a PCR test. Known COVID positive, they allow her to wait in the waiting room for 30 minutes, with a presumably substandard mask.

Sees the nurse practitioner. She advises that MIL go to Springfield for "an infusion of Hydroxychloroquine". This is not in the protocol for treatment of COVID, but the nurse knows a doctor who will fake a lupus or malaria diagnosis so that the treatment will be covered by medicare. This despite the advent of paxlovid.
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Re: WTF is the deal with the caronavirus?
« Reply #4567 on: May 24, 2022, 11:43:09 PM »
Quote from: murphstahoe on May 24, 2022, 11:05:12 PM
Mother in law, 82, outside of Lincoln, has COVID, per a rapid test.

Goes to the doctor in Lincoln for a PCR test. Known COVID positive, they allow her to wait in the waiting room for 30 minutes, with a presumably substandard mask.

Sees the nurse practitioner. She advises that MIL go to Springfield for "an infusion of Hydroxychloroquine". This is not in the protocol for treatment of COVID, but the nurse knows a doctor who will fake a lupus or malaria diagnosis so that the treatment will be covered by medicare. This despite the advent of paxlovid.

Not shocked. Have relatives down that way. Not much there but the prison, dollar stores, and Cracker Barrel.

Jassn88Cub was from Lincoln too.
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Re: WTF is the deal with the caronavirus?
« Reply #4568 on: May 25, 2022, 07:36:15 AM »
Quote from: murphstahoe on May 24, 2022, 11:05:12 PM
Mother in law, 82, outside of Lincoln, has COVID, per a rapid test.

Goes to the doctor in Lincoln for a PCR test. Known COVID positive, they allow her to wait in the waiting room for 30 minutes, with a presumably substandard mask.

Sees the nurse practitioner. She advises that MIL go to Springfield for "an infusion of Hydroxychloroquine". This is not in the protocol for treatment of COVID, but the nurse knows a doctor who will fake a lupus or malaria diagnosis so that the treatment will be covered by medicare. This despite the advent of paxlovid.
Hydroxychloroquine is available as a tablet. It's cheap.
The infusion must be something else.
Was it suggested for an infusion of something followed by hydroxychloroquine therapy ?
Paxlovid needs to be given within 5 days of symptom onset, and there are reports of a rebound Covid case with the possibility of symptoms being worse than the initial case.
It's possible that the Paxlovid therapy was not an option.
Hopefully your MIL gets thru with no issues.

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Re: WTF is the deal with the caronavirus?
« Reply #4569 on: May 25, 2022, 09:09:27 AM »
Quote from: Mn on May 25, 2022, 07:36:15 AM
Hydroxychloroquine is available as a tablet. It's cheap.
The infusion must be something else.
Was it suggested for an infusion of something followed by hydroxychloroquine therapy ?
Paxlovid needs to be given within 5 days of symptom onset, and there are reports of a rebound Covid case with the possibility of symptoms being worse than the initial case.
It's possible that the Paxlovid therapy was not an option.
Hopefully your MIL gets thru with no issues.

Are you projecting that this nurse practitioner was giving reasoned advice? Tablet or infusion, it's not an indicated treatment, for a nurse to recommend it is wack

As wack as you concern trolling paxlovid as having rebound cases, instead of "hydroxychlorquine does nothing for COVID". It might be cheap, then again so is pez and it's just as effective

She got it at Church, it's Wednesday, she's inside the window
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Re: WTF is the deal with the caronavirus?
« Reply #4570 on: May 25, 2022, 09:39:07 AM »
Quote from: murphstahoe on May 25, 2022, 09:09:27 AM
Are you projecting that this nurse practitioner was giving reasoned advice? Tablet or infusion, it's not an indicated treatment, for a nurse to recommend it is wack

As wack as you concern trolling paxlovid as having rebound cases, instead of "hydroxychlorquine does nothing for COVID". It might be cheap, then again so is pez and it's just as effective

She got it at Church, it's Wednesday, she's inside the window
I was trying to be helpful.
I'm questioning her/your description of how the NP conversation went.
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Re: WTF is the deal with the caronavirus?
« Reply #4571 on: May 25, 2022, 11:01:59 AM »
Quote from: murphstahoe on May 24, 2022, 11:05:12 PM
Mother in law, 82, outside of Lincoln, has COVID, per a rapid test.

Goes to the doctor in Lincoln for a PCR test. Known COVID positive, they allow her to wait in the waiting room for 30 minutes, with a presumably substandard mask.

Sees the nurse practitioner. She advises that MIL go to Springfield for "an infusion of Hydroxychloroquine". This is not in the protocol for treatment of COVID, but the nurse knows a doctor who will fake a lupus or malaria diagnosis so that the treatment will be covered by medicare. This despite the advent of paxlovid.

Lincoln hasn't been the same since The Tropics permanently closed in 2004.
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Re: WTF is the deal with the caronavirus?
« Reply #4572 on: May 25, 2022, 11:03:32 AM »
Quote from: alum74 on May 25, 2022, 11:01:59 AM
Lincoln hasn't been the same since The Tropics permanently closed in 2004.

Hahaha. I actually went to that place when visiting.

Jassn88Cub may have served us.
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Re: WTF is the deal with the caronavirus?
« Reply #4573 on: May 25, 2022, 11:08:28 AM »
Quote from: Mn on May 25, 2022, 09:39:07 AM
I was trying to be helpful.
I'm questioning her/your description of how the NP conversation went.
all good.

Nurse told her something. It went through the FOX News translator in the 82 year old brain, then via phone to my wife, so who knows. Could have been "tablet" not infusion, could have been "monoclonals" not hydroxy, suffice to say that she said to us "infusion of hydroxychloroquine"
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Re: WTF is the deal with the caronavirus?
« Reply #4574 on: May 25, 2022, 11:14:00 AM »
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