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WTF is the deal with the caronavirus?

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Re: WTF is the deal with the caronavirus?
« Reply #4305 on: January 17, 2022, 11:30:28 AM »
Quote from: alum74 on January 17, 2022, 11:28:11 AM
Fat shaming, BMI and alienation: COVID-19 brought new stigma to large-sized people
https://www.latimes.com/california/story/2021-05-08/analyzing-covid-vaccine-inequity-through-obesity-lens

Misconceptions about obesity have led to a spike in weight shaming during COVID-19, experts say
https://www.ctvnews.ca/health/misconceptions-about-obesity-have-led-to-a-spike-in-weight-shaming-during-covid-19-experts-say-1.5347085

Fat-shamers have felt enabled by Covid, and it's hard to fight back
https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2021/mar/07/fat-shamers-have-felt-enabled-by-covid-and-its-hard-to-fight-back

😂🤣 “fat shaming”

You didn’t even read the article I linked did you. Just because it’s “acceptable” doesn’t make it healthy. Our society is so fucked up.
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Re: WTF is the deal with the caronavirus?
« Reply #4306 on: January 17, 2022, 12:08:45 PM »
Quote from: Judge Judy on January 17, 2022, 09:09:01 AM
So you’re saying Democrats are the root cause of the problem?

The root causes have to do with human nature. gullibility, self indulgence, anger, laziness, arrogance ...
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Re: WTF is the deal with the caronavirus?
« Reply #4307 on: January 17, 2022, 01:45:48 PM »
Quote from: illiniray on January 17, 2022, 12:08:45 PM
The root causes have to do with human nature. gullibility, self indulgence, anger, laziness, arrogance ...

That’s an incredibly vague answer.
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"He commented more than once that, 'You know, Hitler did some good things, too,'" Kelly recalled to The Times. Kelly said he would usually quash the conversation by saying "nothing (Hitler) did, you could argue, was good," but that Trump would occasionally bring up the topic again.
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Re: WTF is the deal with the caronavirus?
« Reply #4308 on: January 17, 2022, 01:49:53 PM »
Quote from: illiniray on January 17, 2022, 12:08:45 PM
The root causes have to do with human nature. gullibility, self indulgence, anger, laziness, arrogance ...

Isn’t everything?! Lol you literally could add in things like greed, manipulation, selfishness, and a whole list of things for anything that happens in the world. What’s your point? You specifically gave an example of Democrats causing the problem in you answer a few posts above and now are backtracking.
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Re: WTF is the deal with the caronavirus?
« Reply #4309 on: January 17, 2022, 01:59:36 PM »
The Dems are too soft.  Shoulda tanked the filibuster.  Mitch would have without blinking.
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Re: WTF is the deal with the caronavirus?
« Reply #4310 on: January 17, 2022, 02:06:30 PM »
Quote from: Judge Judy on January 16, 2022, 08:27:37 PM
Here we go…

Approximately 75% of all deaths (roughly 834,954 total) are from the 65 years of age or older group.

So only 213,337 deaths under 65. And in 49% of all the cases, influenza and pneumonia was a contributing factor along with some others. So we basically wiped out the annual flu deaths and other comorbidities for the last 2 years and listed them as COVID. From healthcare professionals, they were told to report a person WITH COVID at the time of death AS COVID. So who really knows a truthful number of how many actually were or other causes. That aside…

If you’re under 65 years of age in the U.S., you have a 0.064% chance of dying. Think about that a second. Stats straight from the CDC.

https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/covid19/mortality-overview.htm

U.S. population- 332,403,650
COVID deaths under 65 yrs old- 213,337

And I’m sure some of those 213,337 reported had other factors in play making that less than 1% even smaller. But no need as it’s already a VERY small chance of dying.

I don’t state those numbers to minimize the actual deaths and families that are grieving. Any death is one too many, but people are relatively safe. This fear mongering by the media, schools, and our President is way exaggerated. They make it sound like a death sentence to people when it’s anything but in reality.

I’m going to let you in on a little secret:  older people make up most COVID-19 deaths...because the median death of “almost everything” is older!

When you get old, “something kills you.”   “But COVID is an extra something.  An extra wolf in the pack.”

These older people are our family members, relatives and friends.  Tens of thousands were lost unnecessarily because of our half-assed response to the pandemic.   Many spent their last days or weeks isolated in ICUs to keep the virus from spreading.

Some may have lived another 2, 5 or perhaps 10 years. 

We need to protect them as much as we need to protect every American. 

Coronavirus reveals just how little compassion we have for older people
https://www.vox.com/the-highlight/2020/3/27/21195762/coronavirus-older-people-quarantine-loneliness-health

What it’s like to die from Covid-19
https://www.vox.com/2021/2/20/22280817/covid-19-deaths-us-nursing-home-icu-ventilator

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Re: WTF is the deal with the caronavirus?
« Reply #4311 on: January 17, 2022, 02:08:59 PM »
Quote from: ridingthegrange on January 17, 2022, 01:59:36 PM
The Dems are too soft.  Shoulda tanked the filibuster.  Mitch would have without blinking.

Their policies KEEP people in poverty. Their policies ENABLE people to not do better. Their policies ENCOURAGE dependence on the government.

All of this leads to government having power and control over people because at the blink of an eye they’ll threaten to take it away. Republicans want that assistance to go away and people to be responsible for their own lives and bettering themselves. Thus making them the bad guy.

Democrats say here’s $100. Do what I say or you don’t get it anymore. Can’t lift yourself out of poverty that way. Thus the enabling and control. Republicans say you can make much more depending on yourself if you’d stop being lazy and earn it yourself. Where’s the self motivation, self accountability, and pride for one’s self anymore?! Everybody wants a hand out.
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Re: WTF is the deal with the caronavirus?
« Reply #4312 on: January 17, 2022, 02:30:26 PM »
Quote from: Judge Judy on January 17, 2022, 02:08:59 PM
Their policies KEEP people in poverty.

Haha, you’re thinking of Republicans.
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Re: WTF is the deal with the caronavirus?
« Reply #4313 on: January 17, 2022, 02:31:28 PM »
Quote from: Judge Judy on January 17, 2022, 02:08:59 PM
Their policies KEEP people in poverty. Their policies ENABLE people to not do better. Their policies ENCOURAGE dependence on the government.

All of this leads to government having power and control over people because at the blink of an eye they’ll threaten to take it away. Republicans want that assistance to go away and people to be responsible for their own lives and bettering themselves. Thus making them the bad guy.

Democrats say here’s $100. Do what I say or you don’t get it anymore. Can’t lift yourself out of poverty that way. Thus the enabling and control. Republicans say you can make much more depending on yourself if you’d stop being lazy and earn it yourself. Where’s the self motivation, self accountability, and pride for one’s self anymore?! Everybody wants a hand out.

Spoken like a true Sean Hannity disciple.
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Re: WTF is the deal with the caronavirus?
« Reply #4314 on: January 17, 2022, 02:33:53 PM »
Pretty sure the “you get nothing” method of pulling people out of poverty has been debunked. How do you explain low poverty levels in the Scandinavian countries?
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Re: WTF is the deal with the caronavirus?
« Reply #4315 on: January 17, 2022, 03:02:12 PM »
Quote from: Judge Judy on January 17, 2022, 01:49:53 PM
Isn’t everything?! Lol you literally could add in things like greed, manipulation, selfishness, and a whole list of things for anything that happens in the world. What’s your point? You specifically gave an example of Democrats causing the problem in you answer a few posts above and now are backtracking.

Just another way of saying same the things.

Both political parties are almost equally culpable. I was being ironic, but it's sort of true.

Republicans want to cut taxes for the rich, starve children, imprison the poor, pollute the environment, put Gawd in the classroom, treat covid with worm medicine, and put toxins in our food. Democrats want to hand out participation trophies and take away our livlihood if we use the wrong pronoun.
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« Reply #4316 on: January 17, 2022, 03:16:41 PM »
Quote from: Tempo34 on January 17, 2022, 02:31:28 PM
Spoken like a true Sean Hannity disciple.

I’ve never heard of the poor providing/creating jobs for others. If we don’t incentivize wealthy people and companies to stay in America, they will go elsewhere and we’ll be stuck out in the cold. You’ve seen what socialism causes in other countries and it’s not pretty. I do think there should be a flat tax. It should be the same percentage for everybody regardless of income. That’s fair.

You don’t think Democrat’s policies enable people?! They get incentives to have more children. They reward and encourage fatherless households by providing more benefits to them. There’s plenty of able-bodied people out there choosing to not work and are rewarded for it. Why would a state like Illinois and many other blue states waive the work requirement to receive SNAP and other programs?! If you’re able to work why shouldn’t you in order to receive those benefits? Waiving them encourages them not to. All while they pull up to the building in their $70,000 car to receive government assistance. Lol, yeah ok.
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« Reply #4317 on: January 17, 2022, 03:41:27 PM »
Quote from: Judge Judy on January 17, 2022, 03:16:41 PM
I’ve never heard of the poor providing/creating jobs for others. If we don’t incentivize wealthy people and companies to stay in America, they will go elsewhere and we’ll be stuck out in the cold. You’ve seen what socialism causes in other countries and it’s not pretty. I do think there should be a flat tax. It should be the same percentage for everybody regardless of income. That’s fair.

You don’t think Democrat’s policies enable people?! They get incentives to have more children. They reward and encourage fatherless households by providing more benefits to them. There’s plenty of able-bodied people out there choosing to not work and are rewarded for it. Why would a state like Illinois and many other blue states waive the work requirement to receive SNAP and other programs?! If you’re able to work why shouldn’t you in order to receive those benefits? Waiving them encourages them not to. All while they pull up to the building in their $70,000 car to receive government assistance. Lol, yeah ok.


Yeah, we don't subsidize dairy farmers, cattle grazers, ethanol producers, and fortune 500 companies do we?  There's a lot of issues that we as a country need to work thru.  However, that'll never happen with one party pushing minority rule.
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Re: WTF is the deal with the caronavirus?
« Reply #4318 on: January 17, 2022, 04:01:42 PM »
Quote from: Judge Judy on January 17, 2022, 03:16:41 PM
I’ve never heard of the poor providing/creating jobs for others. If we don’t incentivize wealthy people and companies to stay in America, they will go elsewhere and we’ll be stuck out in the cold. You’ve seen what socialism causes in other countries and it’s not pretty.

Actual socialism is a  centrally planned economy with collective ownership. Nobody wants that. It fails every time it is tried.

Pure capitalism, unregulated free markets with private ownership,  does not work either. predatory practices, exploitation, recessions, monopolies...

What does work is a mixed economy that mitigates the limitations, excesses, and abuses of capitalism. Of course, you guys scream and call it socialism.
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« Reply #4319 on: January 17, 2022, 04:11:22 PM »
Quote from: Judge Judy on January 17, 2022, 03:16:41 PM


You don’t think Democrat’s policies enable people?! They get incentives to have more children. They reward and encourage fatherless households by providing more benefits to them. There’s plenty of able-bodied people out there choosing to not work and are rewarded for it. Why would a state like Illinois and many other blue states waive the work requirement to receive SNAP and other programs?! If you’re able to work why shouldn’t you in order to receive those benefits? Waiving them encourages them not to. All while they pull up to the building in their $70,000 car to receive government assistance. Lol, yeah ok.

There are disincentives in the current system, no doubt. Also, some abuses like there are in every human endeavor.

I like the idea of merging most welfare programs into.a reverse tax.
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