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WTF is the deal with the caronavirus?

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Re: WTF is the deal with the caronavirus?
« Reply #2595 on: August 03, 2021, 05:06:56 PM »
https://miami.cbslocal.com/2021/08/03/covid-florida-desantis-downplays-threat/

I guess this fucker missed the entire 4 years of the Trump presidency....

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MIAMI (CBSMiami) — Florida Gov. Ron DeSantis doubled down Tuesday in defending his actions and his ban of mask mandates just as the state once again broke its record for COVID-19 hospitalizations.

During an event at Shark Valley in the Everglades, DeSantis gave a reporter a terse response when he was asked about seven children at Joe DiMaggio Children’s Hospital with COVID, two in the ICU. The question was could masks have helped?

“You’re blaming the kids saying they weren’t wearing masks so they’re in the ICU.  With all due respect, I find that deplorable to blame a victim who ends up being hospitalized,” said DeSantis.

He never did give his thoughts on whether he thought masks would have helped.

“This has been a really negative thing throughout this whole thing, with some of these, quote, experts, some of the media, somebody can contract a highly transmissible airborne virus and they’re viewed as having done something wrong. That’s just not the way you do it,” he added.

This comes after DeSantis banned all school districts in the state from imposing mask mandates saying he wants to let parents to decide whether children will masks in schools. His Executive Order also empowers the state to deny funding to any districts that don’t comply.
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Re: WTF is the deal with the caronavirus?
« Reply #2596 on: August 03, 2021, 05:38:18 PM »
Science is hard
... "Imperiale explained that, with respect to the GoF terminology, whenever researchers are working with RNA viruses, GoF mutations are naturally arising all the time ... He also commented that the term GoF was understood a certain way by attendees of this symposium, but when the public hears this term “they can't make that sort of nuanced distinction that we can make here” so the terminology should be revisited."
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/books/NBK285579/

"They were playing with fire," said McCaul. "They were genetically manipulating at the lab this gain-of-function that was taking place."
https://www.foxnews.com/media/rep-mccaul-wuhan-lab-report-china-covid-republicans
 
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Re: WTF is the deal with the caronavirus?
« Reply #2597 on: August 03, 2021, 08:43:24 PM »
" I find that deplorable to blame a victim who ends up being hospitalized,” said DeSantis."

Nope - we are blaming DeSantis

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Re: WTF is the deal with the caronavirus?
« Reply #2598 on: August 03, 2021, 09:35:25 PM »
Michael Osterholm. Biden's Covid team.

https://twitter.com/i/status/1422261427210006541

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Re: WTF is the deal with the caronavirus?
« Reply #2599 on: August 03, 2021, 09:41:07 PM »
Michael Osterholm. Biden's Covid team.

https://twitter.com/i/status/1422261427210006541

I better start double masking again on the Blue Line.

I note he also said cloth masks or cloth masking.
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Re: WTF is the deal with the caronavirus?
« Reply #2600 on: August 03, 2021, 09:59:57 PM »
I better start double masking again on the Blue Line.

I note he also said cloth masks or cloth masking.
Fauci said the same thing about masks in early 2020.
Osterholm also mentioned the people who have had Covid in the same sentence with those who have been vaccinated, yet a previous Covid infection is essentially worthless in the vaccine conversation when calling for vaccine mandates.

Wear 3 if you want.

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Re: WTF is the deal with the caronavirus?
« Reply #2601 on: August 03, 2021, 10:49:49 PM »
“What is ‘Science as a Religion’ for $1000, Alex”
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Re: WTF is the deal with the caronavirus?
« Reply #2602 on: August 04, 2021, 07:06:04 AM »
Sounds like I should go back to my homemade shop towel double masks. Those blocked out the cigarette smoke on the Blue Line cars.
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Re: WTF is the deal with the caronavirus?
« Reply #2603 on: August 04, 2021, 09:55:42 AM »
Sounds like I should go back to my homemade shop towel double masks. Those blocked out the cigarette smoke on the Blue Line cars.

Isn't public transit awesome?
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Re: WTF is the deal with the caronavirus?
« Reply #2604 on: August 04, 2021, 10:15:41 AM »
“You gotta keep ‘em separated, indeed.

On Monday, Offspring drummer Pete Parada announced on Twitter that he won’t be joining the band for its upcoming tour. His explanation, which centered on his medical inability to receive a Covid vaccine, quickly went viral.

In the thread, the 48-year-old explained that he has Guillain-Barré Syndrome, a rare immune disorder in which a person’s immune system attacks their nerves. Due to his pre-existing condition, Parada has been counseled not to receive a coronavirus vaccine. “Given my personal medical history and the side-effect profile of these jabs,” he said, “my doctor has advised me not to get a shot at this time.”

Parada went on to reveal that because he isn’t able to “comply with what is increasingly becoming an industry mandate,” his band, which he had been a member of for 14 years, decided that “[he was] unsafe to be around” and fired him.

He shared that he has previously contracted Covid and thus may have natural immunity. “I caught the virus over a year ago, it was mild for me,” he said, “so I am confident I’d be able to handle it again, but I’m not so certain I’d survive another post-vaccination round of Guillain-Barré Syndrome, which dates back to my childhood and has evolved to be progressively worse over my lifetime. Unfortunately for me, (and my family — who is hoping to keep me around a bit longer) the risks far outweigh the benefits.”

Parada then offered encouragement to others who may be feeling shunned or isolated due to their inability to get the vaccine.

“I also want to share my story so that anyone else experiencing the agony and isolation of getting left behind right now — knows they’re not entirely alone,” he said, later adding, “While my reason for not getting this jab is medical, I want to make sure I’m not carving out a space that is only big enough for me. I need to state, unequivocally, that I support informed consent — which necessitates choice unburdened by coercion.”

The veteran rocker explained this is why he opposes vaccine mandates and is concerned over government authoritarianism when it comes to private medical decisions:

“I do not find it ethical or wise to allow those with the most power (government, corporations, organizations, employers) to dictate medical procedures to those with the least power.

 There are countless folks (like me) for whom these shots carry a greater risk than the virus. Most of us don’t publicly share a private decision we made in careful consideration with our doctors. We know it’s not an easy conversation to unfold.

 If it looks like half the population is having a shockingly different reaction to these jabs than was expected — it’s probably because their life experiences have actually been shockingly different, and their reasons range from a conscientious risk/benefit analysis, to the financial inability to take time off work/lack of health care in the event of potential side-effects, to an understandable distrust in a system that has never prioritized the health or well-being of their communities.

 I hope we can learn to make room for all the perspectives and fears that are happening currently. Let’s avoid the unfortunate tendency to dominate, dehumanize and shout down at each other. The hesitant population is not a monolithic group. All voices deserve to be heard.”

Parada finished by thanking his fans for understanding why they won’t be seeing him on tour or at upcoming shows. “I deeply appreciate your … support as my family and I find a new way forward,” he said, concluding, “Sending love to everyone who has been impacted by this pandemic, in all the ways lives have been lost and altered.”

Most responses on Twitter supported Parada and expressed displeasure toward the other members of Offspring for their decision to kick him out.

Mocked one Twitter user, “Damn that’s so rock’n’roll… following the establishment line, saying ‘yes’ to ‘the man’, leaving your crew behind.”

https://www.dailywire.com/news/offspring-drummer-writes-viral-post-opposing-vaccine-mandates-parts-ways-with-him-over-medical-inability-to-get-shot

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Re: WTF is the deal with the caronavirus?
« Reply #2605 on: August 04, 2021, 03:49:12 PM »
Sounds to me like maybe he should get a second opinion.

I mean, if he’s saying he has this disease, that fucks with his immune system, yet he had Covid and was fine, I think I’ll go ahead and call bullshit.

its extremely rare that covid causes much more than that unless you're over 60 years old and fat

Julian Barre syndrome is one of the listed side effects of the vax so he's probably doing the right thing
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Re: WTF is the deal with the caronavirus?
« Reply #2606 on: August 04, 2021, 03:52:21 PM »
The line about "half the people" is where the fish smell popped up for me.

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Re: WTF is the deal with the caronavirus?
« Reply #2607 on: August 04, 2021, 03:54:09 PM »
There have been rare cases of  GBS connected with the viral vector vaccines. Not with the mRNA vaccines.

https://www.who.int/news/item/26-07-2021-statement-of-the-who-gacvs-covid-19-subcommittee-on-gbs

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Re: WTF is the deal with the caronavirus?
« Reply #2608 on: August 04, 2021, 03:56:07 PM »
its extremely rare that covid causes much more than that unless you're over 60 years old and fat

Julian Barre syndrome is one of the listed side effects of the vax so he's probably doing the right thing

Isn't the average age of the unvaccinated in the ICU with The COVID now in the 40s in Florida?
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Re: WTF is the deal with the caronavirus?
« Reply #2609 on: August 04, 2021, 06:44:24 PM »
Yep