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WTF is the deal with the caronavirus?

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Re: WTF is the deal with the caronavirus?
« Reply #2265 on: June 04, 2021, 04:59:16 PM »
Well, ok then. Isn't that how it happens to create vaccines?
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Re: WTF is the deal with the caronavirus?
« Reply #2266 on: June 04, 2021, 05:11:28 PM »
Quote from: ThePAMan on June 04, 2021, 04:59:16 PM
Well, ok then. Isn't that how it happens to create vaccines?
I think we're finding out the vaccine should precede a pandemic, but it's probably best if there's no pandemic.
How does it go ? Oh yeah, accidents do happen. Especially where safety standards may be a little lax.


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Re: WTF is the deal with the caronavirus?
« Reply #2267 on: June 04, 2021, 05:14:03 PM »
Quote from: Custard on June 04, 2021, 04:34:19 PM

Daszak does seem pretty proud of his work, but then again ....

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Re: WTF is the deal with the caronavirus?
« Reply #2268 on: June 04, 2021, 05:35:36 PM »
Quote from: Mn on June 04, 2021, 05:14:03 PM
Daszak does seem pretty proud of his work, but then again ....


You’re turning into a rage junkie.  It’s like you need a fresh (or recycled) target every few minutes.

I'm guessing you have grandchildren.   Go take them out for an ice cream cone.  You'll feel better about the world. 
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Re: WTF is the deal with the caronavirus?
« Reply #2269 on: June 04, 2021, 05:42:52 PM »
Quote from: alum74 on June 04, 2021, 05:35:36 PM
You’re turning into a rage junkie.  It’s like you need a fresh (or recycled) target every few minutes.

I'm guessing you have grandchildren.   Go take them out for an ice cream cone.  You'll feel better about the world.

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Re: WTF is the deal with the caronavirus?
« Reply #2270 on: June 04, 2021, 05:44:53 PM »
It wasn't that long ago that the Swedes were arguing whether they were doing the right thing or not. Also, they did lockdown high schools and universities, off and on, as  I recall.
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Re: WTF is the deal with the caronavirus?
« Reply #2271 on: June 04, 2021, 05:56:07 PM »
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Re: WTF is the deal with the caronavirus?
« Reply #2272 on: June 04, 2021, 06:39:37 PM »
Quote from: fucking on June 04, 2021, 01:58:53 PM
On the flip side, it could have been a lot easier if shitheads like Q97 and the Orange Golfer hadn't immediately protested & resisted any and all precautions.

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Re: WTF is the deal with the caronavirus?
« Reply #2273 on: June 04, 2021, 06:52:49 PM »
Quote from: ThePAMan on June 04, 2021, 05:42:52 PM
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Quote from: alum74 on June 04, 2021, 05:56:07 PM
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Re: WTF is the deal with the caronavirus?
« Reply #2274 on: June 04, 2021, 07:02:52 PM »
If you truly don't recall Trump pooh-poohing masks, that would explain a lot.

Quote from: Custard on May 07, 2020, 10:56:03 AM
This is a big point here. If the "re-opening" looks like a clown show, people aren't going to go out anyway, so businesses will spend money to reboot and then have no customers, which will be worse than being closed down.

It's a crisis. Provide direct aid. No different than a hurricane or fire.


Idk I think people are a lot more willing to go out than you think. Maybe not so much in large urban areas or if one is more at risk, but most people I know have gotten to a point where their financial, mental and social considerations outweigh their fear of getting COVID.

I wear a mask when I go out, and almost everyone I see has one on. That’s good. I’m not worried about getting it myself, I am concerned with potentially getting others sick. And almost everyone I talk to feels exactly the same way I do.
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Re: WTF is the deal with the caronavirus?
« Reply #2275 on: June 04, 2021, 07:55:22 PM »
Quote from: Mn on June 04, 2021, 04:54:07 PM
This is rather simplistic, and based off 2019 population figures, but .....
Sweden appears to have a death rate of 142/100,000.
Sweden has had close to no lockdown since the beginning.
California appears to have a death rate of 160/100,000.
But the population has declined, so the rate should be a little higher.
Michigan appears to be at 205/100,000. Not much different than Italy, which was hit early and hard.
Minnesota appears to be at 134/100,000.
The world was treated to a pandemic with no road map on how to handle it. Maybe that should be a consideration before more gain of function research continues.

California's death rate is 9601/100k, Death rate is 160/100k
Sweden's case rate is 10,471/100k, Death rate is 141/100k

Source - New York Times - https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2021/world/covid-cases.html

So while you are more likely to get infected in Sweden, you are more likely to die in California.

You've just made the case for socialized medicine.
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Re: WTF is the deal with the caronavirus?
« Reply #2276 on: June 04, 2021, 09:00:58 PM »
Fix your post, Murph.
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Re: WTF is the deal with the caronavirus?
« Reply #2277 on: June 04, 2021, 10:17:55 PM »
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Re: WTF is the deal with the caronavirus?
« Reply #2278 on: June 05, 2021, 06:45:48 AM »
Quote from: murphstahoe on June 04, 2021, 07:55:22 PM
California's death rate is 9601/100k, Death rate is 160/100k
Sweden's case rate is 10,471/100k, Death rate is 141/100k

Source - New York Times - https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2021/world/covid-cases.html

So while you are more likely to get infected in Sweden, you are more likely to die in California.

You've just made the case for socialized medicine.
The case rates in Sweden and California do show a higher case rate in Sweden, but I suppose that should be expected when accounting for lockdown strategies.
The difference is 870/100,000. I'm no statistician, but I'm guessing that's statistically insignificant.
Good luck with your relaxing of ​restrictions in a week and a half. Is California the last state to open ?

I did mention Italy and their mortality rate of over 200/100,000. Italy has socialized medicine.
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Re: WTF is the deal with the caronavirus?
« Reply #2279 on: June 05, 2021, 09:29:26 AM »
Last week I was at the Intercontinental in Chicago for three days of meetings with nearly 100 colleagues.

Our Canadian colleagues bemoaned their police state and restricted access to essential goods via video meeting.

My next door neighbors own a home in western Ontario where they usually spend the summer. They’ve been vaccinated since March and they’re hoping maybe they’ll be able to go by late summer.
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