Welcome, Guest. Please login or register.

April 18, 2026, 05:20:37 AM

Login with username, password and session length

Recent

Members
  • Total Members: 142
  • Latest: Hal9000
Stats
  • Total Posts: 177722
  • Total Topics: 1488
  • Online Today: 136
  • Online Ever: 4316
  • (October 16, 2025, 04:40:42 PM)
Users Online
Users: 0
Guests: 115
Total: 115

WTF is the deal with the caronavirus?

  • 6638 Replies
  • 874361 Views

0 Members and 2 Guests are viewing this topic.

*

murphstahoe

  • *****
  • 8035
  • +1968/-142
    • View Profile
Re: WTF is the deal with the caronavirus?
« Reply #180 on: May 15, 2020, 12:48:09 PM »
https://www.aier.org/article/why-didnt-the-constitution-stop-this/

Good question

It's incredible how proud people are on the Internet to display how fucking stupid they actually are.  Jesus Christ.

The Constitution doesn't protect from American citizens' abject stupidity.

Every single person advocating this kind of nonsense should be held directly accountable for the increased deaths that are absolutely coming as a result of this.  Selfish, shameless, small-dick motherfuckers.

deaths are coming (and going) no matter what you peckerhead... its a fucking virus, since we don't have a vaccine the only thing we can do to fight it is with our immune systems.  There is literally nothing you can do to stop the spread... not a god damn thing, especially with the half assed attempts here in the US

yeah close down everything but grocery stores, and oh yeah, everyone still go there and spread disease there, oh lets close down the lakefront so when people go outside they can only go a few places... fucking brilliant, oh but wear a mask even though Fauchi said not to, what a fucking clown show

and with governors in the hardest lockdown areas suppressing antibody data is it any surprise that common sense is not prevailing at this time?

I guarantee nearly everyone here has already been exposed to this virus and their immune system did their job and defeated it, or had mild symptoms...  someday, that data will come out but probably not until these economy ruining dipshits get re-elected

If true, there would be no new hospital admissions nor deaths happening.

*

murphstahoe

  • *****
  • 8035
  • +1968/-142
    • View Profile
Re: WTF is the deal with the caronavirus?
« Reply #181 on: May 15, 2020, 12:51:17 PM »
https://www.aier.org/article/why-didnt-the-constitution-stop-this/

Good question

Because the Constitution is not a suicide pact?

I'm disappointed in you PAM!  Also disappointed that its come down to ruining the economy for decades or killing a few unhealthy boomers is now a political football

I fucking hate election years and this one has been far and away the worst!!!

This part is pretty amusing too. Ruining the economy for decades. During WW II, a huge percentage of the young healthy labor force was, instead of working, out in foxholes overseas. Instead of developing new technologies and starting businesses, we were making guns and tanks. Various foodstuffs and gasoline were being rationed.

After WWII the economy had a massive expansion. If COVID can be controlled/wiped out, the economy is going to go bonkers with all the pent up demand.

*

murphstahoe

  • *****
  • 8035
  • +1968/-142
    • View Profile
Re: WTF is the deal with the caronavirus?
« Reply #182 on: May 15, 2020, 12:53:01 PM »
[

its an ongoing ever changing list of demands...

we need to Flatten the curve!
we need Ventilators!
we need PPE!
we need temporary hospitals and morgues!
we need to disinfect everything everywhere!
we need to wear Masks everywhere!  Or is it don't wear masks unless you're showing symptoms, who knows!  Dr. Fauci doesn't even know!
we need to work from home forever if you can!
we need a vaccine or effective treatment to fully open!

sigh

Not only that, the liberals in California have even exported the earthquakes to Nevada

*

ThePAMan

  • *****
  • 31370
  • +604/-2429
  • Because "PussyMan" and "PenisMan" were trademarked
    • View Profile
Re: WTF is the deal with the caronavirus?
« Reply #183 on: May 15, 2020, 01:34:51 PM »
https://www.aier.org/article/why-didnt-the-constitution-stop-this/

Good question

Because the Constitution is not a suicide pact?

I'm disappointed in you PAM!  Also disappointed that its come down to ruining the economy for decades or killing a few unhealthy boomers is now a political football

I fucking hate election years and this one has been far and away the worst!!!

Here is what I do not understand - Why do people think the economy is going to be ruined for decades? The Spanish Flu lasted from 1918 to 1920. (No shutdown will go that long and we have propped up the safety net quite a bit since then.) The '20s were the Roaring 20's economically (which ultimately lead to The  Great Depression). Not saying we will come back roaring like the '20s, but we will come back. Of course, there will be changes to the economy. It is anticipated that there will be a Bankruptcy Tsunami when this is all over and I would not want to own a shopping mall or downtown commercial real estate (not that those were hit commodities anyway) when this is all over. The fact is people are saving at a rate not seen since the '80s and there is going to be pent up demand. Is there pain right now? Of course there is plenty. But I think it will not last as long as people worry.

Am I just being overly optimistic?
Mark Carman: "The Whitlock!...Caleb Williams failed Wayne Whitlock." Been told I need to take my dick out my mouth so maybe I "wont [sic] sound like such a fucking faggot all the time[.]"

Tempo: "PAMan is a pot stirrer and agent provocateur"

*

ThePAMan

  • *****
  • 31370
  • +604/-2429
  • Because "PussyMan" and "PenisMan" were trademarked
    • View Profile
Re: WTF is the deal with the caronavirus?
« Reply #184 on: May 15, 2020, 01:41:36 PM »
https://www.aier.org/article/why-didnt-the-constitution-stop-this/

Good question

Because the Constitution is not a suicide pact?

I'm disappointed in you PAM!  Also disappointed that its come down to ruining the economy for decades or killing a few unhealthy boomers is now a political football

I fucking hate election years and this one has been far and away the worst!!!

Couldn’t agree more. At first it was “flatten the curve” now the left wants to keep everything shut down indefinitely because someone might get sick who might not have otherwise gotten sick. This shit is running rampant, we aren’t going to save everyone, luckily it hasn’t been hard on the healthy and children.

No one has said "indefinitely".

Furthermore, you are reading about clusters of kids coming down with the Kawasaki Disease, whatever it is called, in hard hit areas as well as survivors with kidney ailments.

Can we give the doctors and scientists at least some time to figure things out so policy makers can try and make informed decisions on what to do?
Mark Carman: "The Whitlock!...Caleb Williams failed Wayne Whitlock." Been told I need to take my dick out my mouth so maybe I "wont [sic] sound like such a fucking faggot all the time[.]"

Tempo: "PAMan is a pot stirrer and agent provocateur"

*

ThePAMan

  • *****
  • 31370
  • +604/-2429
  • Because "PussyMan" and "PenisMan" were trademarked
    • View Profile
Re: WTF is the deal with the caronavirus?
« Reply #185 on: May 15, 2020, 01:44:14 PM »


Couldn’t agree more. At first it was “flatten the curve” now the left wants to keep everything shut down indefinitely because someone might get sick who might not have otherwise gotten sick. This shit is running rampant, we aren’t going to save everyone, luckily it hasn’t been hard on the healthy and children.

its an ongoing ever changing list of demands...

we need to Flatten the curve!
we need Ventilators!
we need PPE!
we need temporary hospitals and morgues!
we need to disinfect everything everywhere!
we need to wear Masks everywhere!  Or is it don't wear masks unless you're showing symptoms, who knows!  Dr. Fauci doesn't even know!
we need to work from home forever if you can!
we need a vaccine or effective treatment to fully open!

sigh

Isn't it amazing how you can learn more by studying something as time goes by, especially when you don't have to rely on Chinese commies for data?
Mark Carman: "The Whitlock!...Caleb Williams failed Wayne Whitlock." Been told I need to take my dick out my mouth so maybe I "wont [sic] sound like such a fucking faggot all the time[.]"

Tempo: "PAMan is a pot stirrer and agent provocateur"

*

ThePAMan

  • *****
  • 31370
  • +604/-2429
  • Because "PussyMan" and "PenisMan" were trademarked
    • View Profile
Re: WTF is the deal with the caronavirus?
« Reply #186 on: May 15, 2020, 01:46:10 PM »
https://www.aier.org/article/why-didnt-the-constitution-stop-this/

Good question

Because the Constitution is not a suicide pact?

I'm disappointed in you PAM!  Also disappointed that its come down to ruining the economy for decades or killing a few unhealthy boomers is now a political football

I fucking hate election years and this one has been far and away the worst!!!

This part is pretty amusing too. Ruining the economy for decades. During WW II, a huge percentage of the young healthy labor force was, instead of working, out in foxholes overseas. Instead of developing new technologies and starting businesses, we were making guns and tanks. Various foodstuffs and gasoline were being rationed.

After WWII the economy had a massive expansion. If COVID can be controlled/wiped out, the economy is going to go bonkers with all the pent up demand.

Maybe we can all band together against the Chinese commies if they don't stop the wet markets that start all this shit every decade or 2.
Mark Carman: "The Whitlock!...Caleb Williams failed Wayne Whitlock." Been told I need to take my dick out my mouth so maybe I "wont [sic] sound like such a fucking faggot all the time[.]"

Tempo: "PAMan is a pot stirrer and agent provocateur"

*

alum74

  • *****
  • 2659
  • +1442/-124
    • View Profile
Re: WTF is the deal with the caronavirus?
« Reply #187 on: May 15, 2020, 01:47:42 PM »


Couldn’t agree more. At first it was “flatten the curve” now the left wants to keep everything shut down indefinitely because someone might get sick who might not have otherwise gotten sick. This shit is running rampant, we aren’t going to save everyone, luckily it hasn’t been hard on the healthy and children.

its an ongoing ever changing list of demands...

we need to Flatten the curve!
we need Ventilators!
we need PPE!
we need temporary hospitals and morgues!
we need to disinfect everything everywhere!
we need to wear Masks everywhere!  Or is it don't wear masks unless you're showing symptoms, who knows!  Dr. Fauci doesn't even know!
we need to work from home forever if you can!
we need a vaccine or effective treatment to fully open!

sigh

Nice try with the deflection, strawman and revisionist thinking.  Everyone wants to restart the economy.  The question is how. 

Flattening the curve of infection rates was primarily about two things: lessening the spread of the virus to preserve healthcare system capacity in the short term and providing time to ramp up protective measures (test supplies, PPE, contact tracing, laboratory capacity, isolation, etc.) that would curb and contain the virus. 

Now if we’d only had a competent federal government that would have used the two months of lockdown to develop a coherent national plan for reviving the economy safely and responsibly.   

Elect a clown, expect a circus.   

*

ThePAMan

  • *****
  • 31370
  • +604/-2429
  • Because "PussyMan" and "PenisMan" were trademarked
    • View Profile
Re: WTF is the deal with the caronavirus?
« Reply #188 on: May 15, 2020, 01:48:11 PM »
https://www.aier.org/article/why-didnt-the-constitution-stop-this/

Good question

Because the Constitution is not a suicide pact?
Governor Hitler of Mich approves this message.

And yet Hitler committed suicide....or did he?
Mark Carman: "The Whitlock!...Caleb Williams failed Wayne Whitlock." Been told I need to take my dick out my mouth so maybe I "wont [sic] sound like such a fucking faggot all the time[.]"

Tempo: "PAMan is a pot stirrer and agent provocateur"

*

Custard

  • *****
  • 12189
  • +235/-2952
    • View Profile
Re: WTF is the deal with the caronavirus?
« Reply #189 on: May 15, 2020, 03:46:04 PM »
https://www.aier.org/article/why-didnt-the-constitution-stop-this/

Good question

Because the Constitution is not a suicide pact?

I'm disappointed in you PAM!  Also disappointed that its come down to ruining the economy for decades or killing a few unhealthy boomers is now a political football

I fucking hate election years and this one has been far and away the worst!!!

Couldn’t agree more. At first it was “flatten the curve” now the left wants to keep everything shut down indefinitely because someone might get sick who might not have otherwise gotten sick. This shit is running rampant, we aren’t going to save everyone, luckily it hasn’t been hard on the healthy and children.

No one has said "indefinitely".

Furthermore, you are reading about clusters of kids coming down with the Kawasaki Disease, whatever it is called, in hard hit areas as well as survivors with kidney ailments.

Can we give the doctors and scientists at least some time to figure things out so policy makers can try and make informed decisions on what to do?

Indefinitely. Have you read Pritzker’s guidelines for reopening the state?

Obviously you don’t own a small business you have spent your entire adult life scraping and clawing to build and keep afloat only to have it destroyed in a matter of a few months.

https://www.biospace.com/article/multiple-studies-suggest-covid-19-mortality-rate-may-be-lower-than-expected-/
Poster Boy for White Male Indifference

AOTC on basically everything measurable

“Custard, you were RIGHT!” -Tempo

*

ThePAMan

  • *****
  • 31370
  • +604/-2429
  • Because "PussyMan" and "PenisMan" were trademarked
    • View Profile
Re: WTF is the deal with the caronavirus?
« Reply #190 on: May 15, 2020, 05:58:27 PM »
https://www.aier.org/article/why-didnt-the-constitution-stop-this/

Good question

Because the Constitution is not a suicide pact?

I'm disappointed in you PAM!  Also disappointed that its come down to ruining the economy for decades or killing a few unhealthy boomers is now a political football

I fucking hate election years and this one has been far and away the worst!!!

Couldn’t agree more. At first it was “flatten the curve” now the left wants to keep everything shut down indefinitely because someone might get sick who might not have otherwise gotten sick. This shit is running rampant, we aren’t going to save everyone, luckily it hasn’t been hard on the healthy and children.

No one has said "indefinitely".

Furthermore, you are reading about clusters of kids coming down with the Kawasaki Disease, whatever it is called, in hard hit areas as well as survivors with kidney ailments.

Can we give the doctors and scientists at least some time to figure things out so policy makers can try and make informed decisions on what to do?

Indefinitely. Have you read Pritzker’s guidelines for reopening the state?

Obviously you don’t own a small business you have spent your entire adult life scraping and clawing to build and keep afloat only to have it destroyed in a matter of a few months.

https://www.biospace.com/article/multiple-studies-suggest-covid-19-mortality-rate-may-be-lower-than-expected-/

Considering that I work in a 3 lawyer office that represents small businesses who were wondering if clients were going to pay their bills the past 2 months, I think I know a little more than you think I do. I am obviously hoping you, and others. pull through and we do not have a Bankruptcy Tsunami.

According to the article deaths are less than 1%. Yet, a) we are still unsure what the general infection rate is, b) we are unsure of the long term effects it may have survivors (Kawasali Disease in kids, kidney disease) and c) excess deaths are statistically up dramatically, if not over 100%. I am all for re-opening with precautions (masks, etc.) as the scientists get a handle on transmission. I've got a kid who has missed a high school baseball season and spring hockey and literally (in the true sense of the word) only goes outside at 1AM to run.
Mark Carman: "The Whitlock!...Caleb Williams failed Wayne Whitlock." Been told I need to take my dick out my mouth so maybe I "wont [sic] sound like such a fucking faggot all the time[.]"

Tempo: "PAMan is a pot stirrer and agent provocateur"

*

illinicalvin

  • *****
  • 1487
  • +517/-43
    • View Profile
Re: WTF is the deal with the caronavirus?
« Reply #191 on: May 15, 2020, 06:51:38 PM »
https://www.aier.org/article/why-didnt-the-constitution-stop-this/

Good question
This article is wrong. Like not, "I disagree with his opinion," wrong, but "wow, this guy is a really big fuckin' moran" wrong. E.g., the first sentence is objectively false. He has no understanding of federalism or police powers, and no understanding of what it means to have a protected right vs. some other vague liberty interest. He claims to want a weak Constitution in the 2nd sentence but is asking for a mercilessly strong one.

A tell that it's written by someone unserious who has no idea what he's talking about: he cites "fire in a crowded theater" for the false proposition that "the property and natural rights of the theatergoers trump the free speech rights of the liar."

The "fire in a crowded theater" case was overruled 50 years ago. There is no such thing as "property and natural rights" against lying. No one who is serious about free speech or civil rights cites it.

*

alum74

  • *****
  • 2659
  • +1442/-124
    • View Profile
Re: WTF is the deal with the caronavirus?
« Reply #192 on: May 15, 2020, 06:54:18 PM »
https://www.aier.org/article/why-didnt-the-constitution-stop-this/

Good question

Because the Constitution is not a suicide pact?

I'm disappointed in you PAM!  Also disappointed that its come down to ruining the economy for decades or killing a few unhealthy boomers is now a political football

I fucking hate election years and this one has been far and away the worst!!!

Couldn’t agree more. At first it was “flatten the curve” now the left wants to keep everything shut down indefinitely because someone might get sick who might not have otherwise gotten sick. This shit is running rampant, we aren’t going to save everyone, luckily it hasn’t been hard on the healthy and children.

No one has said "indefinitely".

Furthermore, you are reading about clusters of kids coming down with the Kawasaki Disease, whatever it is called, in hard hit areas as well as survivors with kidney ailments.

Can we give the doctors and scientists at least some time to figure things out so policy makers can try and make informed decisions on what to do?

Indefinitely. Have you read Pritzker’s guidelines for reopening the state?

Obviously you don’t own a small business you have spent your entire adult life scraping and clawing to build and keep afloat only to have it destroyed in a matter of a few months.

https://www.biospace.com/article/multiple-studies-suggest-covid-19-mortality-rate-may-be-lower-than-expected-/
[/b]

Beware of studies claiming covid-19 death rates are smaller than expected
by George Q. Daley, Stephen Elledge, Galit Alter and Michael Springer

https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/2020/04/28/beware-studies-claiming-covid-19-death-rates-are-smaller-than-expected/

George Q. Daley is the dean of Harvard Medical School.  Stephen Elledge is a professor and researcher at Brigham and Women’s Hospital.  Galit Alter is a professor and researcher at the Ragon Institute and Massachusetts General Hospital.  Michael Springer is an associate professor at Harvard Medical School.

*

illinicalvin

  • *****
  • 1487
  • +517/-43
    • View Profile
Re: WTF is the deal with the caronavirus?
« Reply #193 on: May 15, 2020, 07:10:55 PM »
Here is what I do not understand - Why do people think the economy is going to be ruined for decades?
It doesn't make any sense to me either. We essentially rebounded from '08 financial crisis by ~2012 and that involved IMO much more severe issues with the financial/credit system. Whenever it's considered safe to reopen, reopen, unemployment is going to drop like a rock. Plus, a lot of companies, or even upper middle class to upper class people, have investment money on the sidelines and companies/individuals are putting a lot of effort into R&D.

*

Somewhere in Mn

  • *****
  • 12545
  • +178/-2590
    • View Profile
Re: WTF is the deal with the caronavirus?
« Reply #194 on: May 16, 2020, 07:39:55 AM »
In Minnesota ...... and it's been this way for weeks.
80% of deaths are long term care and assisted living.
82% are aged 70 or over.
99.24% have co-morbidities.
We need more testing....
The test might be better served with are you 70 or older, do you have co-morbidities, or do you reside in long term care or assisted living. 3 strikes is not good, and neither is 1.
5 sailors had the virus, quarantined for 2 weeks and appear to have had 2 negative tests to be allowed back on board. They are testing positive again.
I suppose there are other possibilities, that the tests aren't accurate or immunity is not acquired are 2 possibilities.
It took a decade and a World War to recover from the Great Depression. And that was before a global economy in which we hope to maintain our world leader status.
"In most countries of the world, recovery from the Great Depression began in 1933.[11] In the U.S., recovery began in early 1933,[11] but the U.S. did not return to 1929 GNP for over a decade and still had an unemployment rate of about 15% in 1940, albeit down from the high of 25% in 1933."
Georgia opened their economy 3 weeks ago, and with increased testing they are seeing a drop in cases.
I get it. Stay the fuck away from people, wear a mask in public, wash and/or sanitize hands. Currently, I plan on this til there is a vaccine.