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WTF is the deal with the caronavirus?

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Re: WTF is the deal with the caronavirus?
« Reply #6405 on: December 29, 2024, 12:33:34 PM »
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Re: WTF is the deal with the caronavirus?
« Reply #6406 on: December 29, 2024, 01:27:49 PM »
Quote from: illiniray on December 29, 2024, 12:32:20 AM
Trump lies every time he talks.

Democrats spin.

What's Xi thinking ?

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Re: WTF is the deal with the caronavirus?
« Reply #6407 on: January 04, 2025, 12:15:03 PM »
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Re: WTF is the deal with the caronavirus?
« Reply #6408 on: January 06, 2025, 09:57:49 AM »
We had dinner the other night with a guy who works in the ICU, very interesting to talk to him.

Basically - 2020 was very scary, people were coming in with no real way to treat them. People came in and ended up on ventilators all the time for the flu and usually they pulled through, but with COVID, pretty much anyone who ended up on a ventilator was a 100% mortality rate.

I asked him how many cases like that he sees now - he said zero. There are people in the ICU who have COVID, but it's coincidental to their primary symptom, unlike in 2020 where COVID was primary. He said that most people would think this is because we've all had it or been vaccinates - which is a contributor for sure - but mostly the virus has mutated to less deadly strains. Less deadly strains transmit better because they don't kill the host and have more time to spread, which does produce that aforementioned immune response.

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Re: WTF is the deal with the caronavirus?
« Reply #6409 on: January 06, 2025, 11:47:47 AM »
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Re: WTF is the deal with the caronavirus?
« Reply #6410 on: January 06, 2025, 03:41:46 PM »
Quote from: murphstahoe on January 06, 2025, 09:57:49 AM
but mostly the virus has mutated to less deadly strains. Less deadly strains transmit better because they don't kill the host and have more time to spread, which does produce that aforementioned immune response.

I caught a lot of shit here for saying this about omicron. Robb accused me of spreading disinformation and said I was exposing myself to litigation.
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Re: WTF is the deal with the caronavirus?
« Reply #6411 on: January 06, 2025, 04:52:32 PM »
So we could've done about our business, culled the elderly and immunodeficient populations, and waited 5 years?
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Re: WTF is the deal with the caronavirus?
« Reply #6412 on: January 06, 2025, 04:57:08 PM »
Quote from: illiniray on January 06, 2025, 04:52:32 PM
So we could've done about our business, culled the elderly and immunodeficient populations, and waited 5 years?

Probably would have been a good idea, because that would have also culled a lot more drunk drivers, thrill seekers, and other people needing ER services for non-covid reasons.
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Re: WTF is the deal with the caronavirus?
« Reply #6413 on: January 06, 2025, 05:09:01 PM »
We got all our shots; never had a bad reaction. A friend told me we might be in the control group getting the placebo.

We never caught covid, rarely catch a cold or flu. We  eat fresh fruit every day, usually an orange.
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Re: WTF is the deal with the caronavirus?
« Reply #6414 on: January 06, 2025, 05:20:42 PM »
Quote from: illiniray on January 06, 2025, 04:52:32 PM
So we could've done about our business, culled the elderly and immunodeficient populations, and waited 5 years?

Apparently.
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Re: WTF is the deal with the caronavirus?
« Reply #6415 on: January 06, 2025, 05:21:36 PM »
Quote from: Custard on January 06, 2025, 03:41:46 PM
I caught a lot of shit here for saying this about omicron. Robb accused me of spreading disinformation and said I was exposing myself to litigation.

You killed Robb. As a poster.
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Re: WTF is the deal with the caronavirus?
« Reply #6416 on: January 06, 2025, 11:26:10 PM »
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Re: WTF is the deal with the caronavirus?
« Reply #6417 on: January 06, 2025, 11:26:26 PM »
Actually that makes me sad.
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Re: WTF is the deal with the caronavirus?
« Reply #6418 on: January 06, 2025, 11:26:59 PM »
Quote from: illiniray on January 06, 2025, 04:52:32 PM
So we could've done about our business, culled the elderly and immunodeficient populations, and waited 5 years?

Strawman alert! No one was suggesting that.
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Re: WTF is the deal with the caronavirus?
« Reply #6419 on: January 07, 2025, 10:36:35 AM »
Quote from: Custard on January 06, 2025, 11:26:59 PM
Strawman alert! No one was suggesting that.

Wouldn't doing minimal remedial efforts, as you suggested, have allowed the most dangerous strain an easier ability to spread, thus slowing down the mutation time to a less dangerous strain? I am not an expert, and I slept at home last night, but wouldn't that be the impact of no or minimal remediation efforts?
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