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WTF is the deal with the caronavirus?

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Re: WTF is the deal with the caronavirus?
« Reply #6375 on: December 27, 2024, 02:10:33 PM »
Quote from: illiniray on December 27, 2024, 02:07:31 PM
What article? Where was it "harvested."

I thought the Huanan Market and the Wuhan Institute of Virology were in fairly close proximity.  What is the point?

The cave of bats. The researchers harvested it there and then brought it back to the Wuhan institute to study it.
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Re: WTF is the deal with the caronavirus?
« Reply #6376 on: December 27, 2024, 02:30:48 PM »
Quote from: ThePAMan on December 27, 2024, 02:10:33 PM
The cave of bats. The researchers harvested it there and then brought it back to the Wuhan institute to study it.

That wasn't the COVID-19 virus.
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Re: WTF is the deal with the caronavirus?
« Reply #6377 on: December 27, 2024, 02:34:50 PM »
Quote from: illiniray on December 27, 2024, 02:30:48 PM
That wasn't the COVID-19 virus.

Yes it was.

https://www.bu.edu/neidl/2021/01/where-did-covid-19-come-from/

The coronavirus that conquered the world came from a thumb-sized bat tucked inside a remote Chinese cave. Of this much, scientists are convinced.

Exactly how and when it fled the bat to begin its devastating flight across the globe remain open questions.
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Re: WTF is the deal with the caronavirus?
« Reply #6378 on: December 27, 2024, 02:37:40 PM »
"The virus's ancestors originated in bats in southern China, 600 miles from Wuhan."

We don't know where Covid-19 virus originated.
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Re: WTF is the deal with the caronavirus?
« Reply #6379 on: December 27, 2024, 02:39:37 PM »
Quote from: ThePAMan on December 27, 2024, 02:34:50 PM
Yes it was.

https://www.bu.edu/neidl/2021/01/where-did-covid-19-come-from/

The coronavirus that conquered the world came from a thumb-sized bat tucked inside a remote Chinese cave. Of this much, scientists are convinced.

Exactly how and when it fled the bat to begin its devastating flight across the globe remain open questions.

That was the corona virus origin.
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Re: WTF is the deal with the caronavirus?
« Reply #6380 on: December 27, 2024, 02:42:57 PM »
Quote from: illiniray on December 27, 2024, 02:37:40 PM
"The virus's ancestors originated in bats in southern China, 600 miles from Wuhan."

We don't know where Covid-19 virus originated.

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The group of related coronaviruses giving rise to SARS-CoV-2 has existed for decades in bats and probably originated more than 40 years ago, said Dr. Charles Chiu, a professor and expert in viral genomics at the University of California-San Francisco.

SARS-CoV-2 shares 96% of its genetic material with a sample of coronavirus taken in 2013 in intermediate horseshoe bats from Yunnan province in China, which suggests the Yunnan virus is its ancestor. How the virus traveled the 1,200 miles from Yunnan to Wuhan remains unknown.
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Re: WTF is the deal with the caronavirus?
« Reply #6381 on: December 27, 2024, 02:43:09 PM »
What's the difference between coronavirus and COVID?
Coronaviruses are a large family of respiratory viruses that includes COVID-19, Middle East Respiratory Syndrome (MERS), and Severe Acute Respiratory Syndrome (SARS). Coronaviruses cause diseases in animals and humans.
https://www.nfid.org/infectious-disease/coronaviruses/
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Re: WTF is the deal with the caronavirus?
« Reply #6382 on: December 27, 2024, 02:45:39 PM »
No reported cases in the 1,200 miles between the cave and the Wuhan institute. Hmmmmmm.
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Re: WTF is the deal with the caronavirus?
« Reply #6383 on: December 27, 2024, 02:47:46 PM »
It may have traveled in an infected raccoon dog to the Wuhan market.
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Re: WTF is the deal with the caronavirus?
« Reply #6384 on: December 27, 2024, 02:50:46 PM »
Quote from: ThePAMan on December 27, 2024, 02:45:39 PM
No reported cases in the 1,200 miles between the cave and the Wuhan institute. Hmmmmmm.

It had yet to make the jump from animal to human until it reached the Wuhan market. Nothing odd there.
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Re: WTF is the deal with the caronavirus?
« Reply #6385 on: December 27, 2024, 02:53:25 PM »
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Re: WTF is the deal with the caronavirus?
« Reply #6386 on: December 27, 2024, 03:04:25 PM »
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Re: WTF is the deal with the caronavirus?
« Reply #6387 on: December 28, 2024, 08:57:12 AM »
Quote from: ThePAMan on December 27, 2024, 02:10:33 PM
The cave of bats. The researchers harvested it there and then brought it back to the Wuhan institute to study it.
Maybe.
But then maybe it was from Laos.
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Re: WTF is the deal with the caronavirus?
« Reply #6388 on: December 28, 2024, 01:31:40 PM »
Quote from: No one in Mn on December 28, 2024, 08:57:12 AM
Maybe.
But then maybe it was from Laos.

Those had common ancestors.
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Re: WTF is the deal with the caronavirus?
« Reply #6389 on: December 28, 2024, 01:35:10 PM »
I recall reading that the three strains of coronaviruses studied at WIV were not closely related the COVID-19 virus..

I gather the issue is China will not release the records to prove this. And even if they did, the American right would say they faked the records.
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