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WTF is wrong with Minnesota?

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Re: WTF is wrong with Minnesota?
« Reply #360 on: January 08, 2026, 09:55:28 AM »
Dad was a farmer and Mom was the youngest daughter of a Democrat union electrician in K3. We weren’t really the kind of family that even talked about politics and I didn’t really begin to understand the differences between conservatives and liberals until I was in college. It just wasn’t even on my radar. The 90s were a hell of a time to grow up, especially in a small town.

Respect to your parents.
"He commented more than once that, 'You know, Hitler did some good things, too,'" Kelly recalled to The Times. Kelly said he would usually quash the conversation by saying "nothing (Hitler) did, you could argue, was good," but that Trump would occasionally bring up the topic again.

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Re: WTF is wrong with Minnesota?
« Reply #361 on: January 08, 2026, 10:01:09 AM »
I just watched the video about 20 more times. Her front tires are definitely pointed straight forward when the vehicle appears to make contact with the agent/he fires his first shot. Then the front wheels end up turned to the right after that. I don’t know her intent but I wouldn’t say it’s “bullshit” to say she went straight toward him.

This shows it from three angles.

Videos Contradict Trump Administration Account of ICE Shooting in Minneapolis https://www.nytimes.com/video/us/100000010631041/minneapolis-ice-shooting-video.html?smid=nytcore-android-share



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Re: WTF is wrong with Minnesota?
« Reply #364 on: January 08, 2026, 10:08:48 AM »
There was a time in my younger years where Custard and I would have been simpatico, but then Dennis Kucinich and Bernie Sanders touched me with their noodly appendages.

Kucinich wasn't very good.
Bernie wants people to have better lives, he just isn't very dialed in on what that means or how to get there. Which is still a huge upgrade from a Trump, who doesn't give a shit.


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Re: WTF is wrong with Minnesota?
« Reply #366 on: January 08, 2026, 10:11:40 AM »
This video sure shows her hitting him. Very sad what happened, but she FAFO. This isn’t a game and people think it is…

https://x.com/0hour1/status/2009263907102163442?s=46&t=nLWTarDKWNHMqYhTVD-LQQ
Because FOX News told me so…

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Re: WTF is wrong with Minnesota?
« Reply #367 on: January 08, 2026, 10:12:22 AM »
Around 2003-2004 I was at a speaking engagement featuring Kucinich. He was a very good speaker. I was already leaning to the left by that point, but it’s about right here I decided I was all in.
"He commented more than once that, 'You know, Hitler did some good things, too,'" Kelly recalled to The Times. Kelly said he would usually quash the conversation by saying "nothing (Hitler) did, you could argue, was good," but that Trump would occasionally bring up the topic again.

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Re: WTF is wrong with Minnesota?
« Reply #368 on: January 08, 2026, 10:13:05 AM »
Obama deported 3 million without sending out masked thugs to instigate shit.
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Re: WTF is wrong with Minnesota?
« Reply #369 on: January 08, 2026, 10:13:48 AM »
This video sure shows her hitting him. Very sad what happened, but she FAFO. This isn’t a game and people think it is…

https://x.com/0hour1/status/2009263907102163442?s=46&t=nLWTarDKWNHMqYhTVD-LQQ

Notice rather than try to get out of the way he pulls his pistol and braces himself. At best, his first shot was justifiable.
"He commented more than once that, 'You know, Hitler did some good things, too,'" Kelly recalled to The Times. Kelly said he would usually quash the conversation by saying "nothing (Hitler) did, you could argue, was good," but that Trump would occasionally bring up the topic again.

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Re: WTF is wrong with Minnesota?
« Reply #370 on: January 08, 2026, 10:17:44 AM »
Kucinich wasn't very good.
Bernie wants people to have better lives, he just isn't very dialed in on what that means or how to get there. Which is still a huge upgrade from a Trump, who doesn't give a shit.

I can agree with your conclusion on Bernie. I remember his debate against Biden when Covid just started raging and he inexplicably focused on his well regarded billionaire criticisms instead of laying out why universal healthcare is so beneficial. Huge opportunity missed. I was scratching my head during and after that debate.
"He commented more than once that, 'You know, Hitler did some good things, too,'" Kelly recalled to The Times. Kelly said he would usually quash the conversation by saying "nothing (Hitler) did, you could argue, was good," but that Trump would occasionally bring up the topic again.

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Re: WTF is wrong with Minnesota?
« Reply #371 on: January 08, 2026, 10:18:37 AM »
This video sure shows her hitting him. Very sad what happened, but she FAFO. This isn’t a game and people think it is…

https://x.com/0hour1/status/2009263907102163442?s=46&t=nLWTarDKWNHMqYhTVD-LQQ

This reminds of replays where different camera angles are contradictory. The NYT synchs that with other videos. It's a misleading angle. Other angled show she didn't hit him. He was clear of the vehicle when he fired the first shot.
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Re: WTF is wrong with Minnesota?
« Reply #372 on: January 08, 2026, 10:18:55 AM »
I just watched the video about 20 more times. Her front tires are definitely pointed straight forward when the vehicle appears to make contact with the agent/he fires his first shot. Then the front wheels end up turned to the right after that. I don’t know her intent but I wouldn’t say it’s “bullshit” to say she went straight toward him.

If you watched it 20 times, then you should understand that these ICE guys would make the Keystone Kops look like the top policing force of all time.

Before we even get into the shooter - who was shooting at a moving car with bystanders in the vicinity (a clear no-no) - let's look at the dude who was driving the truck. He pulls up, hops out of his RV, and rushes to her car, yelling "Get out of the fucking car" and tries to open the door. There is so much wrong there.

If the person in the car was armed, he just got shot, by approaching the car in a non-defensive position. But he didn't approach the car in a defensive position because he *knew* the occupant was just some middle class white lady he figured he could push around. As such, he can calmly approach the car and request that she exit the vehicle. *IF* he were a cop, which he is not. He is Immigration Customs Enforcement, which doesn't have the authority to do policing actions like that. What do they do if she gets out of the car? They don't have authority to arrest her.

And *if* there was a reason to order her out of the car. Dubious at best. A trained officer would have approached the car, and made a request that the driver move her car.

The shooter didn't get out of the truck - he was already on the street and knew exactly what kind of player the driver of the car was. There was no reason to engage with gun play. Stay away from the car, have one officer approach and calmly engage.

These ICE guys are cosplaying as Navy Seals, and it just keeps going badly.

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Re: WTF is wrong with Minnesota?
« Reply #373 on: January 08, 2026, 10:21:48 AM »
This video sure shows her hitting him. Very sad what happened, but she FAFO. This isn’t a game and people think it is…

https://x.com/0hour1/status/2009263907102163442?s=46&t=nLWTarDKWNHMqYhTVD-LQQ


Careful. The official MAGA line is "it is not appropriate to swear, like that commie Minneapolis Mayor does"

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Re: WTF is wrong with Minnesota?
« Reply #374 on: January 08, 2026, 10:22:50 AM »
Notice rather than try to get out of the way he pulls his pistol and braces himself. At best, his first shot was justifiable.

https://x.com/i/status/2009289807764312424

 
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