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Stories not being reported that you won’t believe anyways

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Re: Stories not being reported that you won’t believe anyways
« Reply #105 on: November 22, 2024, 07:57:27 PM »
The article cites actual scientists discussing alternate theories because the science isn’t settled. It’s multi layered and some of the things we’ve done to do good have caused problems elsewhere. It’s a good cautionary tale.

Also, who pays scientists? Are they just out there doing the work pro bono for the good of man?
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Re: Stories not being reported that you won’t believe anyways
« Reply #106 on: November 22, 2024, 08:03:41 PM »
Quote from: Custard on November 22, 2024, 07:57:27 PM
The article cites actual scientists discussing alternate theories because the science isn’t settled. It’s multi layered and some of the things we’ve done to do good have caused problems elsewhere. It’s a good cautionary tale.

Also, who pays scientists? Are they just out there doing the work pro bono for the good of man?

Custard working overtime from his fossil fuel industry talking points. 
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Re: Stories not being reported that you won’t believe anyways
« Reply #107 on: November 22, 2024, 08:55:20 PM »
It's 97% settled. Which means it's basically settled. If 97% of scientists agree, I'll roll with that. As opposed to 97% of say, Trumpers.
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"He commented more than once that, 'You know, Hitler did some good things, too,'" Kelly recalled to The Times. Kelly said he would usually quash the conversation by saying "nothing (Hitler) did, you could argue, was good," but that Trump would occasionally bring up the topic again.
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Re: Stories not being reported that you won’t believe anyways
« Reply #108 on: November 22, 2024, 08:56:10 PM »
Quote from: alum74 on November 22, 2024, 08:03:41 PM
Custard working overtime from his fossil fuel industry talking points.

You'd think he was getting paid.
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"He commented more than once that, 'You know, Hitler did some good things, too,'" Kelly recalled to The Times. Kelly said he would usually quash the conversation by saying "nothing (Hitler) did, you could argue, was good," but that Trump would occasionally bring up the topic again.
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Re: Stories not being reported that you won’t believe anyways
« Reply #109 on: November 22, 2024, 09:14:46 PM »
Quote from: Maximus Decimus Meridius on November 22, 2024, 08:56:10 PM
You'd think he was getting paid.

Like the scientists…
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Re: Stories not being reported that you won’t believe anyways
« Reply #110 on: November 22, 2024, 10:14:51 PM »
Quote from: Judge Judy on November 22, 2024, 09:14:46 PM
Like the scientists…

Yes, scientists get paid. Just like every other job. You think people peddling the shit Custard is trying to sell aren’t profiting from trying to misinform and confuse people?
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"He commented more than once that, 'You know, Hitler did some good things, too,'" Kelly recalled to The Times. Kelly said he would usually quash the conversation by saying "nothing (Hitler) did, you could argue, was good," but that Trump would occasionally bring up the topic again.
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Re: Stories not being reported that you won’t believe anyways
« Reply #111 on: November 22, 2024, 10:17:47 PM »
You think Exxon and BP aren’t paying people to misinform the public? You’re delusional. You think scientists are getting rich to misinform about climate change? That’s also pretty delusional. Are they getting paid off by the massive windmill industry?
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"He commented more than once that, 'You know, Hitler did some good things, too,'" Kelly recalled to The Times. Kelly said he would usually quash the conversation by saying "nothing (Hitler) did, you could argue, was good," but that Trump would occasionally bring up the topic again.
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Re: Stories not being reported that you won’t believe anyways
« Reply #112 on: November 23, 2024, 05:02:24 AM »
I talked about this before. Back in the 1970s; there were two competing stories of human induced climate change -- global cooling driven by atmospheric stuff called aerosols and global warming driven by CO2.

The aerosols are not the stuff they used to put in spray cans that were destroying the Ozone layer.

These are particulates in the air made of pollutants from burning high sulfur coal, leaded gas, etc. Also dust and ash from volcanoes and droughts and so on  ...

Besides global cooling, atmospheric aerosols caused acid rain, smog,  burning rivers, and fish kill from water pollution and more.

Laws like Nixon's Clean Air and Water Acts cleaned up much of that mess.

This is not a return to the mean. It just means that aerosol driven cooling is no longer offsetting carbon dioxide driven global warming.

Climate scientists are discussing spraying the atmosphere to create aerosols as a sort of desperation measure to counter global warming.

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Re: Stories not being reported that you won’t believe anyways
« Reply #113 on: November 23, 2024, 05:12:49 AM »
'... Using climate models, we estimate that aerosols have masked about 50 percent of the warming that would otherwise have been caused by greenhouse gases trapping heat near the surface of the Earth..."

https://climate.nasa.gov/news/215/just-5-questions-aerosols/
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Re: Stories not being reported that you won’t believe anyways
« Reply #114 on: November 24, 2024, 08:43:18 PM »
Sounds about right.

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"He commented more than once that, 'You know, Hitler did some good things, too,'" Kelly recalled to The Times. Kelly said he would usually quash the conversation by saying "nothing (Hitler) did, you could argue, was good," but that Trump would occasionally bring up the topic again.
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Re: Stories not being reported that you won’t believe anyways
« Reply #115 on: November 25, 2024, 03:26:52 PM »
Quote from: Maximus Decimus Meridius on November 22, 2024, 08:55:20 PM
It's 97% settled. Which means it's basically settled. If 97% of scientists agree, I'll roll with that. As opposed to 97% of say, Trumpers.

so you're saying there's a chance...
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Re: Stories not being reported that you won’t believe anyways
« Reply #116 on: November 25, 2024, 03:32:03 PM »
What part is 97% settled?
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Re: Stories not being reported that you won’t believe anyways
« Reply #117 on: November 25, 2024, 04:00:36 PM »
Quote from: Custard on November 25, 2024, 03:32:03 PM
What part is 97% settled?

That human activity is greatly accelerating destructive climate change.
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"He commented more than once that, 'You know, Hitler did some good things, too,'" Kelly recalled to The Times. Kelly said he would usually quash the conversation by saying "nothing (Hitler) did, you could argue, was good," but that Trump would occasionally bring up the topic again.
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Re: Stories not being reported that you won’t believe anyways
« Reply #118 on: November 25, 2024, 07:22:21 PM »
Quote from: Maximus Decimus Meridius on November 25, 2024, 04:00:36 PM
That human activity is greatly accelerating destructive climate change.

greatly?

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Re: Stories not being reported that you won’t believe anyways
« Reply #119 on: November 25, 2024, 07:31:33 PM »
Quote from: ILLove1997 on November 25, 2024, 07:22:21 PM
greatly?

Just let him enjoy himself feeling like he’s making a difference in the world…
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