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Stories not being reported that you won’t believe anyways

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Re: Stories not being reported that you won’t believe anyways
« Reply #90 on: October 07, 2024, 07:45:57 PM »
That's what I told her. It's immediate money for immediate needs. it's called Serious Needs Assistance. She still believes Trump. Is Trump lying or misinformed?

It appears the rebuilding assistance is capped by Congress at $42,500..I think that would be free money. There might also be low interest loans through HUD.

I would imagine local governments would get money for infrastructure and disaster mitigation..

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Re: Stories not being reported that you won’t believe anyways
« Reply #91 on: October 07, 2024, 07:48:57 PM »
Quote from: murphstahoe on October 07, 2024, 07:12:24 PM
There's a program that hot wires anyone who experiences a natural disaster 750 right away, with very little qualification, so that people have some cash to deal with basic immediate needs.

Down the line, there are bigger benefits based on your own damage levels.

When we had the Tubbs fire and a lot of people I knew fled their houses with their houses on fire, in the middle of the night, there wasn't really time to go digging around for your wallet. I found this out when I was at the gas station filling up in order to evacuate just because, and saw people who had fled the fire zone parked at the freeway offramp, out of gas and basically with nothing but the clothes on their backs - if that.  750 will get you a tank of gas, some clothes, some food, a hotel, etc.. and by the time you need more, there will be agencies settled in (the Sonoma County Fairgrounds was a one stop shop for a new license, passport, the banks were there issuing people new ATM and credit cards, etc...)

Yes those $750 payments are for "immediate needs".  Unfortunately, there is a lot of misinformation and conspiracies percolating on social media about the availability of government assistance for hurricane victims.     
https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/factcheck/2024/10/07/helene-aid-more-than-75-fact-check/75559425007/

FEMA has been forced to create a rumor response page on its website to deal with this.   
https://www.fema.gov/disaster/current/hurricane-helene/rumor-response

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Re: Stories not being reported that you won’t believe anyways
« Reply #92 on: October 07, 2024, 10:35:50 PM »
Quote from: illiniray on October 07, 2024, 07:45:57 PM
That's what I told her. It's immediate money for immediate needs. it's called Serious Needs Assistance. She still believes Trump. Is Trump lying or misinformed?

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Re: Stories not being reported that you won’t believe anyways
« Reply #93 on: October 07, 2024, 10:48:13 PM »
I’ve never had to evacuate Illinois FTR. Not that there aren’t moments I haven’t wanted to.
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Re: Stories not being reported that you won’t believe anyways
« Reply #94 on: October 08, 2024, 11:25:34 AM »
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Re: Stories not being reported that you won’t believe anyways
« Reply #95 on: October 08, 2024, 03:53:20 PM »
Quote from: alum74 on October 07, 2024, 06:18:28 PM
I’ve seen other reports indicating that government hiring is rebounding.  This is good.  A "retirement tsunami" took place in the local, state and federal government sectors between 2010 and 2020, with tens of thousands of employees deciding to clock out.  Count me among those who decided to retire. 

Things make a lot more sense now.

Wonder what Ray did before he retired.
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Re: Stories not being reported that you won’t believe anyways
« Reply #96 on: November 22, 2024, 12:33:44 PM »
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Re: Stories not being reported that you won’t believe anyways
« Reply #97 on: November 22, 2024, 01:15:22 PM »
Thanks for posting. It’s shit like this that pisses me off when people automatically attribute every weather phenomenon to climate change. Like Nichi saying the corn stalk fire was due to climate change. The fuck? The prairies have been burning since the glaciers retreated. Thankfully the earth has been warming since the Younger Dryas—which was a major extinction event and rendered much of where humans live now completely uninhabitable. Do humans have an impact? Of course. But technology is evolving and all the constant alarmism is ridiculous and counterproductive.

Then you’ve got guys like Tempo that say it’s settled science and 97% of climate experts agree…as if it’s not this massively complex thing that no one truly understands.  There are a lot of trends and theories. Not a lot is settled. The earth is in a relatively cool period by all accounts. And you never hear any of how a slightly warmer planet could bring some positives, it’s always a doomsday scenario.
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Re: Stories not being reported that you won’t believe anyways
« Reply #98 on: November 22, 2024, 03:18:22 PM »
Quote from: ThePAMan on November 22, 2024, 12:33:44 PM
https://www.persuasion.community/p/youre-thinking-about-hurricanes-all?utm_source=post-email-title&publication_id=61579&post_id=152004262&utm_campaign=email-post-title&isFreemail=true&token=eyJ1c2VyX2lkIjoyNzczMzg3LCJwb3N0X2lkIjoxNTIwMDQyNjIsImlhdCI6MTczMjI5ODU2OSwiZXhwIjoxNzM0ODkwNTY5LCJpc3MiOiJwdWItNjE1NzkiLCJzdWIiOiJwb3N0LXJlYWN0aW9uIn0.W8B2o_YhLTVKtuDTJ377G7N3KVJnbL1NwUH992DkmsE&r=1nfyj&triedRedirect=true&utm_medium=email

You’re Thinking About Hurricanes All Wrong
Yes they’re caused by climate change—but not as you know it.

I don’t agree with the author’s premise.  This issue was covered widely by the MSM and scientific publications over two years ago.  And the aerosol link did not “get politely swept under the rug.”  It is something that climate scientists are taking into consideration in their climate modeling studies. 
https://apnews.com/article/climate-storms-science-air-pollution-united-states-a629da4d72fa94d75f6668acd5a04bf3
https://www.cnn.com/2022/05/11/us/air-pollution-atlantic-hurricanes-climate/index.html
https://www.nytimes.com/2022/05/11/climate/air-pollution-hurricanes.html
https://undark.org/2022/05/24/reduced-air-pollution-less-more-hurricanes/
https://www.preventionweb.net/news/complex-relationship-between-hurricanes-air-pollution-and-climate

It’s also something that environmental groups have acknowledged in their reporting:
https://blogs.edf.org/climate411/2020/08/27/what-you-need-to-know-about-hurricanes-and-climate-change/
https://thebulletin.org/2023/09/how-is-climate-change-impacting-hurricane-season-its-complicated/

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Re: Stories not being reported that you won’t believe anyways
« Reply #99 on: November 22, 2024, 03:32:17 PM »
Quote from: Custard on November 22, 2024, 01:15:22 PM
Thanks for posting. It’s shit like this that pisses me off when people automatically attribute every weather phenomenon to climate change. Like Nichi saying the corn stalk fire was due to climate change. The fuck? The prairies have been burning since the glaciers retreated. Thankfully the earth has been warming since the Younger Dryas—which was a major extinction event and rendered much of where humans live now completely uninhabitable. Do humans have an impact? Of course. But technology is evolving and all the constant alarmism is ridiculous and counterproductive.

Then you’ve got guys like Tempo that say it’s settled science and 97% of climate experts agree…as if it’s not this massively complex thing that no one truly understands.  There are a lot of trends and theories. Not a lot is settled. The earth is in a relatively cool period by all accounts. And you never hear any of how a slightly warmer planet could bring some positives, it’s always a doomsday scenario.
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Whatever. After Helene, over 30% of insurance claims made by Florida residents were denied. These are people paying upwards of 10k per year for insurance, had their house destroyed, then got their claim denied.

This was more prevalent with homeowners who were insured with Citizens Insurance, the State of Florida's insurer of last resort.

A lot of those people will be getting religion real quick.
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Re: Stories not being reported that you won’t believe anyways
« Reply #100 on: November 22, 2024, 03:35:35 PM »
Quote from: Custard on November 22, 2024, 01:15:22 PM
Thanks for posting. It’s shit like this that pisses me off when people automatically attribute every weather phenomenon to climate change. Like Nichi saying the corn stalk fire was due to climate change. The fuck? The prairies have been burning since the glaciers retreated. Thankfully the earth has been warming since the Younger Dryas—which was a major extinction event and rendered much of where humans live now completely uninhabitable. Do humans have an impact? Of course. But technology is evolving and all the constant alarmism is ridiculous and counterproductive.

Then you’ve got guys like Tempo that say it’s settled science and 97% of climate experts agree…as if it’s not this massively complex thing that no one truly understands.  There are a lot of trends and theories. Not a lot is settled. The earth is in a relatively cool period by all accounts. And you never hear any of how a slightly warmer planet could bring some positives, it’s always a doomsday scenario.
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The amusing thing here is that you are falling into the trope that the climate just changes willy nilly, but the author claims that the change in hurricanes wasn't willy nilly, it was just a different human intervention.
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Re: Stories not being reported that you won’t believe anyways
« Reply #101 on: November 22, 2024, 03:42:00 PM »
It always happens for a reason. But the point I’m trying to make it that there’s a lot of grasping at straws going on, and the science is far from settled. I’ve never been fully convinced CO2 is the primary driver of warming. Obviously I’m not alone—there are a lot of differing viewpoints even amongst the informed.
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Re: Stories not being reported that you won’t believe anyways
« Reply #102 on: November 22, 2024, 06:53:06 PM »
Quote from: Custard on November 22, 2024, 01:15:22 PM
Thanks for posting. It’s shit like this that pisses me off when people automatically attribute every weather phenomenon to climate change. Like Nichi saying the corn stalk fire was due to climate change. The fuck? The prairies have been burning since the glaciers retreated. Thankfully the earth has been warming since the Younger Dryas—which was a major extinction event and rendered much of where humans live now completely uninhabitable. Do humans have an impact? Of course. But technology is evolving and all the constant alarmism is ridiculous and counterproductive.

Then you’ve got guys like Tempo that say it’s settled science and 97% of climate experts agree…as if it’s not this massively complex thing that no one truly understands.  There are a lot of trends and theories. Not a lot is settled. The earth is in a relatively cool period by all accounts. And you never hear any of how a slightly warmer planet could bring some positives, it’s always a doomsday scenario.

Hahahahahahaha. 97% of climate scientists agree that humans are doing signicant long term damage to the plant, but “it’s so massively complex no one can understand it.” Talk about gaslighting…
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Re: Stories not being reported that you won’t believe anyways
« Reply #103 on: November 22, 2024, 06:54:58 PM »
We can’t trust SCIENCE and/or SCIENTISTS, folks…
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Re: Stories not being reported that you won’t believe anyways
« Reply #104 on: November 22, 2024, 06:56:47 PM »
Instead let’s rely on anecdotes and alternate theories.
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