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Coleman Hawkins most likely post college career will be:

Drafted within the first 2 rounds.
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Go undrafted entirely
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End up playing an NBA 10 year career as a journeyman
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Play ONLY overseas
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Learns how to play the Blues down at the Crossroads
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Voting closed: November 20, 2023, 07:55:57 PM

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ILLINICHIEF

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Coleman Hawkins
« on: November 10, 2023, 07:55:57 PM »
Your guess is?
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Re: Coleman Hawkins
« Reply #1 on: November 11, 2023, 01:20:26 AM »
Frustrating player in some ways but unique. Probably because he’s been built up to be something he’s not and we keep expecting him to be that something. More often than not he’s a solid player that does a lot of things. Attitude sucks. Lkdog is probably too hard on him. He kind of is what he is at this point.
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Re: Coleman Hawkins
« Reply #2 on: November 11, 2023, 04:44:18 AM »
Put him on the Illini All-Time Disappointment team with Jereme Richmond, Marcus Liberty, Meyers Leonard, and Crandall Head.
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Re: Coleman Hawkins
« Reply #3 on: November 11, 2023, 08:26:03 AM »
Quote from: Tempo34 on November 11, 2023, 04:44:18 AM
Put him on the Illini All-Time Disappointment team with Jereme Richmond, Marcus Liberty, Meyers Leonard, and Crandall Head.
Agree with your list. Add Shaun Pruitt?
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Re: Coleman Hawkins
« Reply #4 on: November 11, 2023, 08:26:51 AM »
Quote from: Illinifan5775 on November 11, 2023, 08:26:03 AM
Agree with your list. Add Shaun Pruitt?

Agree....Alex Legion hype?
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Re: Coleman Hawkins
« Reply #5 on: November 11, 2023, 08:36:20 AM »
Dude was a sub 100 RSCI. Not sure why people tried to make him out to be the next Anthony Davis.
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Re: Coleman Hawkins
« Reply #6 on: November 11, 2023, 08:39:08 AM »
He's ultimately a 3-star recruit who can play as a wing forward or athletic 5 with better handles on the perimeter than the typical 4 but gets pushed around by bigger 5s and his basketball IQ is below average. He's a useful piece on a NCAA tournament team that was sold to us as a point-forward who can be the 2nd best player on a B1G title team. I think he'll make a lot of money as a pro but not in the league.
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Re: Coleman Hawkins
« Reply #7 on: November 11, 2023, 10:17:08 AM »
Quote from: Tempo34 on November 11, 2023, 04:44:18 AM
Put him on the Illini All-Time Disappointment team with Jereme Richmond, Marcus Liberty, Meyers Leonard, and Crandall Head.

All those guys were exceptional athletes, something Hawkins is not.  Actually, based on his size, skill set and top 200 ranking, he should be compared with guys like Scott Meents, Bill Cole, Mike Tisdale ...

Interesting that a guy like Liberty is considered a disappointment because of expectations. He played 2 years here. Lost one year due to fucked up NCAA rules. Was then 6th man on a FF team. Averaged 18 points and 7 rebounds his final year. 
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Re: Coleman Hawkins
« Reply #8 on: November 11, 2023, 10:31:19 AM »
Agree. Liberty was a good player.
Stuck 4 years in the NBA also.
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Re: Coleman Hawkins
« Reply #9 on: November 11, 2023, 12:22:59 PM »
Quote from: Tempo34 on November 11, 2023, 04:44:18 AM
Put him on the Illini All-Time Disappointment team with Jereme Richmond, Marcus Liberty, Meyers Leonard, and Crandall Head.

College Meyers  Leonard was not a disappointment.

NBA Meyers Leonard on the other hand...
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Re: Coleman Hawkins
« Reply #10 on: November 11, 2023, 01:23:15 PM »
Hawkins actually had one of his better games statistically. 5A/2TO's, 8 Rebounds. Was 3-5 from field. Didn't brick line drive threes mindlessly.
He was just a little bitch all night as usual, got beat easily one on one on D several times, and passed up a few wide open 13 footers which he has start taking.
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Re: Coleman Hawkins
« Reply #11 on: November 11, 2023, 02:40:04 PM »
Quote from: Illinifan5775 on November 11, 2023, 08:26:03 AM
Agree with your list. Add Shaun Pruitt?

Shaun Pruitt was a far greater contributor than the rest of the list.
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Re: Coleman Hawkins
« Reply #12 on: November 11, 2023, 02:43:18 PM »
Quote from: Miles Leonard on November 11, 2023, 12:22:59 PM
College Meyers  Leonard was not a disappointment.

NBA Meyers Leonard on the other hand...

B1G Honorable Mention isn’t enough production from the most athletic 7’0 player Illinois has ever had. He was drafted almost strictly on potential.
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Re: Coleman Hawkins
« Reply #13 on: November 11, 2023, 02:44:29 PM »
Quote from: Tempo34 on November 11, 2023, 02:43:18 PM
B1G Honorable Mention isn’t enough production from the most athletic 7’0 player Illinois has ever had. He was drafted almost strictly on potential.

Weber told him to follow Tisdale around
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Re: Coleman Hawkins
« Reply #14 on: November 11, 2023, 02:45:17 PM »
Quote from: Lkdog on November 11, 2023, 10:31:19 AM
Agree. Liberty was a good player.
Stuck 4 years in the NBA also.

“Good” isn’t quite what you’re looking for from the #1 recruit in the country.
He was a disappointment compared to what was expected. 
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