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Should Terrence Shannon play while awaiting trial?

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Should Terrence Shannon play while awaiting trial?

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spark mandrill

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Re: Should Terrence Shannon play while awaiting trial?
« Reply #255 on: June 13, 2024, 04:14:24 PM »
Quote from: Judge Judy on June 13, 2024, 03:48:18 PM
So she just gets to walk out of the courtroom free as well?! Ridiculous!

Perfect post.  Just a complete abandonment of the logic you’ve been using for months.  Never change, Judy - I know you won’t.
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Re: Should Terrence Shannon play while awaiting trial?
« Reply #256 on: June 13, 2024, 04:20:02 PM »
He should sue the nerds in northwestern fan club too
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Re: Should Terrence Shannon play while awaiting trial?
« Reply #257 on: June 13, 2024, 04:44:45 PM »
Quote from: spark mandrill on June 13, 2024, 04:13:27 PM
How do you preach to a person who screamed INNOCENT UNTIL PROVEN GUILTY when it benefitted them, and LOCK HER UP when it didn’t?  That kind of idiot has never listened to anyone in their life or they’d make some sense occasionally.

Similar to those who said no one charged with a crime would ever, ever allow themselves to be interviewed in a simultaneously running campus investigation?
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Re: Should Terrence Shannon play while awaiting trial?
« Reply #258 on: June 13, 2024, 04:50:48 PM »
Quote from: ThePAMan on June 13, 2024, 04:44:45 PM
Similar to those who said no one charged with a crime would ever, ever allow themselves to be interviewed in a simultaneously running campus investigation?

Uh, what?

Yeah, of course no one is going to present their evidence in an ongoing criminal case to some university board.  Which is also specifically why the board investigation was dropped right after the season ended - because they didn't have access to any of the evidence they'd need to determine his guilt or innocence.  Of course they didn't.  That kind of board never will have access to the evidence they'll need to make that determination, nor should they be put in a position to do that.

I love that you said that though.  It's like you're in a race to see who can say the dumbest thing.
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Re: Should Terrence Shannon play while awaiting trial?
« Reply #259 on: June 13, 2024, 04:53:07 PM »
Quote from: spark mandrill on June 13, 2024, 04:50:48 PM
Uh, what?

Yeah, of course no one is going to present their evidence in an ongoing criminal case to some university board.  Which is also specifically why the board investigation was dropped right after the season ended - because they didn't have access to any of the evidence they'd need to determine his guilt or innocence.  Of course they didn't.  That kind of board never will have access to the evidence they'll need to make that determination, nor should they be put in a position to do that.

I love that you said that though.  It's like you're in a race to see who can say the dumbest thing.

LOL. You were off by quite a bit in this thread. But cannot admit it. Typical progressive jackass.
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Re: Should Terrence Shannon play while awaiting trial?
« Reply #260 on: June 13, 2024, 04:53:42 PM »
Here's what they said when they dropped the university investigation:

"In a letter to Shannon dated April 5, Robert Wilczynski, the director of the Office for Student Conflict Resolution at Illinois, wrote that the school had insufficient evidence to find Shannon in violation of the student code. Wilczynski wrote that the school's investigator did not have "access to the complainant, the complainant's witness" and that "the complete Lawrence Police Department file was not available to the investigator," according to the letter."

https://www.espn.com/mens-college-basketball/story/_/id/39921917/illinois-drops-investigation-terrence-shannon-jr

It went without saying though.  Of course they didn't have access to that evidence.
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Re: Should Terrence Shannon play while awaiting trial?
« Reply #261 on: June 13, 2024, 04:54:20 PM »
Quote from: ThePAMan on June 13, 2024, 04:53:07 PM
LOL. You were off by quite a bit in this thread. But cannot admit it. Typical progressive jackass.

Off about what in particular?

One thing I was definitely wrong about is that I never in a million years thought they'd grant him the TRO.  I can't think of anything else I was notably wrong about though.  The thing you're trying to pretend I was wrong about, I wasn't.  They did, in fact, drop the university investigation for the exact, explicit reasons I pointed out.
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Re: Should Terrence Shannon play while awaiting trial?
« Reply #262 on: June 13, 2024, 04:54:45 PM »
Quote from: spark mandrill on June 13, 2024, 04:53:42 PM
Here's what they said when they dropped the university investigation:

"In a letter to Shannon dated April 5, Robert Wilczynski, the director of the Office for Student Conflict Resolution at Illinois, wrote that the school had insufficient evidence to find Shannon in violation of the student code. Wilczynski wrote that the school's investigator did not have "access to the complainant, the complainant's witness" and that "the complete Lawrence Police Department file was not available to the investigator," according to the letter."

https://www.espn.com/mens-college-basketball/story/_/id/39921917/illinois-drops-investigation-terrence-shannon-jr

It went without saying though.  Of course they didn't have access to that evidence.

They had access to him. Which he admitted. Which you made a point no one would ever do. Jackass.
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Re: Should Terrence Shannon play while awaiting trial?
« Reply #263 on: June 13, 2024, 04:55:52 PM »
Quote from: spark mandrill on June 13, 2024, 04:54:20 PM
Off about what in particular?

One thing I was definitely wrong about is that I never in a million years thought they'd grant him the TRO.  I can't think of anything else I was notably wrong about though.  The thing you're trying to pretend I was wrong about, I wasn't.  They did, in fact, drop the university investigation for the exact, explicit reasons I pointed out.

Playing the Tempo "about what" routine when caught being wrong. LOL.

Stick to your day job, jackass.
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Re: Should Terrence Shannon play while awaiting trial?
« Reply #264 on: June 13, 2024, 04:56:20 PM »
Quote from: ThePAMan on June 13, 2024, 04:54:45 PM
They had access to him. Which he admitted. Which you made a point no one would ever do. Jackass.

They did not have access to the evidence he presented in the court room.  They interviewed him.

They didn't see the video, they didn't have the DNA report, they didn't interview the accuser, they didn't have the police report.  And again, of course they didn't - that was evidence in an ongoing criminal trial.  Didn't take a genius.

When you've gotta make some shit up and pretend to call someone else wrong, they probably weren't.
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Re: Should Terrence Shannon play while awaiting trial?
« Reply #265 on: June 13, 2024, 04:57:03 PM »
Quote from: ThePAMan on June 13, 2024, 04:55:52 PM
Playing the Tempo "about what" routine when caught being wrong. LOL.

Stick to your day job, jackass.

Pretty much what I thought - couldn't come up with anything.  Neither the claim, nor the fact that it was totally baseless is at all surprising.
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Re: Should Terrence Shannon play while awaiting trial?
« Reply #266 on: June 13, 2024, 04:57:51 PM »
Quote from: spark mandrill on June 13, 2024, 04:56:20 PM
They did not have access to the evidence he presented in the court room.  They interviewed him.

They didn't see the video, they didn't have the DNA report, they didn't interview the accuser, they didn't have the police report.  And again, of course they didn't - that was evidence in an ongoing criminal trial.  Didn't take a genius.

When you've gotta make some shit up and pretend to call someone else wrong, they probably weren't.

Which you said no one charged with a crime would ever, ever do. You were fucking wrong, Know It All Assmunch. LOL.
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Re: Should Terrence Shannon play while awaiting trial?
« Reply #267 on: June 13, 2024, 04:58:34 PM »
Quote from: spark mandrill on June 13, 2024, 04:57:03 PM
Pretty much what I thought - couldn't come up with anything.  Neither the claim, nor the fact that it was totally baseless is at all surprising.

Go tell it to your therapist, Know It All Loser.
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Re: Should Terrence Shannon play while awaiting trial?
« Reply #268 on: June 13, 2024, 04:58:36 PM »
Anyway, not sticking around - just wanted to pop in to acknowledge Shannon's acquittal and wish him well, and laugh at the people who two hours ago were purists about the presumption of innocence but now are complaining that the accuser isn't in jail.  This place is nothing if not extremely predictable.
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Re: Should Terrence Shannon play while awaiting trial?
« Reply #269 on: June 13, 2024, 04:59:38 PM »
Quote from: spark mandrill on June 13, 2024, 04:58:36 PM
Anyway, not sticking around - just wanted to pop in to acknowledge Shannon's acquittal and wish him well, and laugh at the people who two hours ago were purists about the presumption of innocence but now are complaining that the accuser isn't in jail.  This place is nothing if not extremely predictable.

Good, you are a Know It All Progressive Jackass. Go fuck yourself, loser.
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