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Should Terrence Shannon play while awaiting trial?

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Re: Should Terrence Shannon play while awaiting trial?
« Reply #285 on: June 13, 2024, 05:37:52 PM »
Quote from: illinicalvin on June 13, 2024, 05:13:00 PM
Really quick jury verdict of they still had testimony this morning.

Prosecutor should be put through the wringer for continuing that dogshit of a case against a public figure. It's not unreasonable to acknowledge gaps in what one knows and assume there has to be something else there but the state really didn't have anything here that could support a conviction.

I repeat my hope that this radicalizes Illinois fans about how the criminal justice system can be abused because this stuff doesn't just happen when visiting basketball teams are in town.

Big congrats to TJS team as I think the only verdict permitted by law, but it seems the morally right one as well.

No doubt in my mind the verdict is correct based on the evidence.  There were any number of potential pieces of evidence that could’ve changed things - eyewitnesses, DNA matches, video - and they came up empty on all of them.
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Re: Should Terrence Shannon play while awaiting trial?
« Reply #286 on: June 13, 2024, 05:53:30 PM »
Quote from: Judge Judy on June 13, 2024, 05:08:56 PM
Here you go…

https://x.com/colemansburner/status/1801355494831100175?s=46&t=nLWTarDKWNHMqYhTVD-LQQ

Absolutely despicable behavior here.  Just unbelievably gross.

The irony of talking about someone “having class” minutes after doxxing  someone for saying they were sexually assaulted is immeasurable.


I know there’s nothing awful people hate more than others telling them to be better but Jesus Christ.  Classless doesn’t begin to describe it.
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Re: Should Terrence Shannon play while awaiting trial?
« Reply #287 on: June 14, 2024, 06:19:29 AM »
Coleman Hawkins doxxing her after the trial (and her blaiming a guy based on the fact he was a basketball player) is Judge Judy's fault? Got it. Jobu was right. Go fuck yourself, you self-righteous, and unable to admit you were wrong, piece of shit.
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Re: Should Terrence Shannon play while awaiting trial?
« Reply #288 on: June 14, 2024, 07:06:24 AM »


True, I would agree and I'm not sure that I would disagree.
« Last Edit: June 14, 2024, 07:13:55 AM by No one is above the law »
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Re: Should Terrence Shannon play while awaiting trial?
« Reply #289 on: June 14, 2024, 08:53:22 AM »
Quote from: ThePAMan on June 14, 2024, 06:19:29 AM
Coleman Hawkins doxxing her after the trial (and her blaiming a guy based on the fact he was a basketball player) is Judge Judy's fault? Got it. Jobu was right. Go fuck yourself, you self-righteous, and unable to admit you were wrong, piece of shit.

No, but JudgeJudy posting her name and photograph on this board is her fault obviously.  And it wasn’t Coleman who doxxed her.

“You can never admit you were wrong!”

“What specifically was I wrong about, other than the TRO?”

“You just can never admit it!”

“Okay so what was it I was wrong about?”

“You self righteous blow hard! You never can admit to being wrong!”

You can only duck the “so what was I wrong about?” question so many times before it’s extremely clear you don’t have an answer.  Yes, I know, I stated no defense attorney will let his client present the evidence in the ongoing trial to a university board, and even though they didn’t do that for the same obvious reasons I pointed out months ago, if I just pretend with you that they did then I was actually wrong.
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Re: Should Terrence Shannon play while awaiting trial?
« Reply #290 on: June 14, 2024, 09:06:35 AM »
Quote from: spark mandrill on June 14, 2024, 08:53:22 AM
No, but JudgeJudy posting her name and photograph on this board is her fault obviously.  And it wasn’t Coleman who doxxed her.

“You can never admit you were wrong!”

“What specifically was I wrong about, other than the TRO?”

“You just can never admit it!”

“Okay so what was it I was wrong about?”

“You self righteous blow hard! You never can admit to being wrong!”

You can only duck the “so what was I wrong about?” question so many times before it’s extremely clear you don’t have an answer.  Yes, I know, I stated no defense attorney will let his client present the evidence in the ongoing trial to a university board, and even though they didn’t do that for the same obvious reasons I pointed out months ago, if I just pretend with you that they did then I was actually wrong.

Fuck you, you disingenuous piece of shit. We spent an afternoon arguing about simultaneously proceeding Title IX and criminal investigations and you said no defendant/student would ever, ever, ever participate in an investigation while a criminal proceeding was going. You are a fucking piece of shit. Your fucking therapist may buy your act, but I doubt anyone here does.  Fuck off, scumbag.
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Re: Should Terrence Shannon play while awaiting trial?
« Reply #291 on: June 14, 2024, 09:08:13 AM »
Quote from: spark mandrill on June 13, 2024, 05:53:30 PM
Absolutely despicable behavior here.  Just unbelievably gross.

The irony of talking about someone “having class” minutes after doxxing  someone for saying they were sexually assaulted is immeasurable.


I know there’s nothing awful people hate more than others telling them to be better but Jesus Christ.  Classless doesn’t begin to describe it.

She’s not a victim. He is. Go fuck yourself. She literally tried to blame an innocent man and ruin his life. Hers is the one the should be ruined. Hell, call her employer and try to get her fired and never get a job again. That’s essentially what she did. Fuck her, and fuck you.
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Re: Should Terrence Shannon play while awaiting trial?
« Reply #292 on: June 14, 2024, 09:23:57 AM »
Quote from: ThePAMan on June 14, 2024, 09:06:35 AM
Fuck you, you disingenuous piece of shit. We spent an afternoon arguing about simultaneously proceeding Title IX and criminal investigations and you said no defendant/student would ever, ever, ever participate in an investigation while a criminal proceeding was going. You are a fucking piece of shit. Your fucking therapist may buy your act, but I doubt anyone here does.  Fuck off, scumbag.

I said no defendant's attorney would ever, ever let them present the evidence from the ongoing criminal trial to a university panel.

Then, when they didn't do that, you called me wrong.

Disingenuous indeed.  When you have to lie about what someone said to claim a victory, you probably don't have a winning point.
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Re: Should Terrence Shannon play while awaiting trial?
« Reply #293 on: June 14, 2024, 09:24:21 AM »
Quote from: Judge Judy on June 14, 2024, 09:08:13 AM
She’s not a victim. He is. Go fuck yourself. She literally tried to blame an innocent man and ruin his life. Hers is the one the should be ruined. Hell, call her employer and try to get her fired and never get a job again. That’s essentially what she did. Fuck her, and fuck you.

So much for the presumption of innocence.  The second it no longer benefits your favorite basketball team, you throw it all the way out the window.
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Re: Should Terrence Shannon play while awaiting trial?
« Reply #294 on: June 14, 2024, 09:28:39 AM »
Quote from: spark mandrill on June 14, 2024, 09:24:21 AM
So much for the presumption of innocence.  The second it no longer benefits your favorite basketball team, you throw it all the way out the window.

Uhhh presumption of innocence?! They had a trial dumbass…
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Re: Should Terrence Shannon play while awaiting trial?
« Reply #295 on: June 14, 2024, 09:31:18 AM »
Quote from: Judge Judy on June 14, 2024, 09:28:39 AM
Uhhh presumption of innocence?! They had a trial dumbass…

To determine whether TSJ was guilty of rape, yes.

The accuser has not been on trial. She hasn't even been charged with a crime, nor have I heard any whispers that she might be.

If you believe in the presumption of innocence, that principle demands that she has the same presumption of innocence TSJ did.  I'm not an idiot, though.  I know you only extend that strict adherence to the presumption of innocence to people whose guilt might personally affect you.
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Re: Should Terrence Shannon play while awaiting trial?
« Reply #296 on: June 14, 2024, 09:44:15 AM »
Quote from: spark mandrill on June 14, 2024, 09:31:18 AM
To determine whether TSJ was guilty of rape, yes.

The accuser has not been on trial. She hasn't even been charged with a crime, nor have I heard any whispers that she might be.

If you believe in the presumption of innocence, that principle demands that she has the same presumption of innocence TSJ did.  I'm not an idiot, though.  I know you only extend that strict adherence to the presumption of innocence to people whose guilt might personally affect you.

By him being innocent, her claim it was him and to blame him is false. She literally tried to ruin an innocent man’s life.
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Re: Should Terrence Shannon play while awaiting trial?
« Reply #297 on: June 14, 2024, 09:46:02 AM »
Quote from: Judge Judy on June 14, 2024, 09:44:15 AM
By him being innocent, her claim it was him and to blame him is false. She literally tried to ruin an innocent man’s life.

You think if someone is acquitted of a crime the person who accused them should go to jail?  Again, just a total abandonment of the notion of presumption of innocence.

If they have the evidence to prove she made it up or lied to the same standard that was applied to TSJ's trial (beyond a reasonable doubt), then by all means charge and convict her.  Until she is convicted, she's afforded the exact same presumption of innocence that he was.

Somewhere along the line, some civics teacher failed you absolutely horrendously.  You just have no idea how any of this works, and are proud to prove it over and over.
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Re: Should Terrence Shannon play while awaiting trial?
« Reply #298 on: June 14, 2024, 09:50:49 AM »
Quote from: spark mandrill on June 14, 2024, 09:46:02 AM
You think if someone is acquitted of a crime the person who accused them should go to jail?  Again, just a total abandonment of the notion of presumption of innocence.

If they have the evidence to prove she made it up or lied to the same standard that was applied to TSJ's trial (beyond a reasonable doubt), then by all means charge and convict her.  Until she is convicted, she's afforded the exact same presumption of innocence that he was.

Somewhere along the line, some civics teacher failed you absolutely horrendously.  You just have no idea how any of this works, and are proud to prove it over and over.

Again, fuck her, and fuck you. Good day…
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Re: Should Terrence Shannon play while awaiting trial?
« Reply #299 on: June 14, 2024, 09:51:50 AM »
Quote from: Judge Judy on June 14, 2024, 09:50:49 AM
Again, fuck her, and fuck you. Good day…

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