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The Deuce / Re: Bye Biden
« on: July 27, 2024, 10:27:40 PM »
Seems the Dems lost Jeff Frank's support...
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I have been saying the same exact thing since the debate. Biden has to go and Harris can’t be the nominee. Can’t get any more consistent than that. You said the same things. Looks like you’re all falling in line now though.
Be careful what you wish for is a saying for a reason....
I've seen a couple of polls with Michelle anywhere 8 to 12 points higher than Trump.
Well...If there's to be a switch, then it must be planned, crafted, and reasoned, and with full support of the party (or as full as it gets).
The first thing is for Biden to pull out. Hopefully by Monday, but no later than Wednesday. They'll strategize over the weekend no doubt.
A few more days is less time on the clock, but far better than a ham-handed announcement that reeks of desperation.
Hard to argue with this. Just look at the makeup of the convention delegates; lots and lots of women and African Americans. And how would they respond to Newsom. "Oh look, they want to replace a white man with another white man." That's not going to pass muster. Sorry Murph, but I think Newsom knows he's toast for 2024.
Michelle would no doubt be a great candidate, but I agree that she probably doesn't want the job. On the other hand, opening up the convention to a bunch of dueling candidates very much risks opening fissures within the Democratic coalition, and those sorts of fissures cannot possibly by healed within 2.5 months no matter how short people's memories are. Keep in mind the pundits and media would love to tell people how unorganized and divided Democrats are. Even worse, Custard would be concern trolling throughout the process.
The other big elephant in the room is Joe Biden. Whatever his flaws as a candidate, Biden has been a good political manager of the disparate Democratic coalition. That, more than anything else, was what kept a high-profile primary candidate from challenging him.
Here's how I think things will play out. I hope Biden will be persuaded by party leaders to bow out. If and when that happens, I believe he will endorse Harris as his successor as a way of strongly signaling that she is the inheritor of his coalition. The torch will be passed to her before the convention takes place. Then everyone will fall in line, and the auditions for VP would begin.
I understand that some folks here will not like this scenario. That's fine. However, I don't believe Biden will abandon Harris, if he decides to withdraw. That's not his style.
You know what they say about hypotheticals.
A much younger Hillary Clinton lost to Trump. Biden looked like shit 4 years ago and beat Trump. If you gotta win, you gotta go with a good candidate. Whitmer is the only non-white-male available. And I don't think she can overrun Trump.
This is gonna happen. Julian Castro goes on TV to say Biden should drop out and Harris should be in. The minions are all starting to pick their horses so they get a patronage job if it happens. This will accellerate.
Harris isn't winning. Ever.
They 100% should. I’m part of the class of people they used to identify as a core constituency, but have lost sight of in all the pandering to special interest groups.
It’s always the economy!
Enjoy losing to one of the worst candidates of all time…again.