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The “Debate” 6/27/2024

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Re: The “Debate” 6/27/2024
« Reply #180 on: July 01, 2024, 07:14:43 AM »
Trump misrepresented the facts 30 times to 9 for Biden. Plus Biden appeared most often to be confused; while Trump's lies appeared to be mostly deliberate and malicious.
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Re: The “Debate” 6/27/2024
« Reply #181 on: July 01, 2024, 07:28:02 AM »
Quote from: No one is above the law on July 01, 2024, 07:13:46 AM
Yep.

"Ultraviolet light treatments introduced into the tracheas of five critically ill COVID-19 patients appeared to be safe and associated with a reduction in the respiratory load of SARS-CoV-2—the virus responsible for COVID-19—in all but one patient, according to a study conducted by Cedars-Sinai."
https://www.cedars-sinai.org/newsroom/reduced-viral-loads-seen-in-covid-19-patients-treated-with-uva-light/

Yes, and the reason they tested this was, of course, because Trump suggested it. /S

"And then I said, supposing you brought the light inside the body,"

He is also suggesting injecting disinfectants. He had talked about bleach as a disinfectant iirc.

I recall him bragging about how medical people consulted with him, because he had such a knack for it.

I think this was also in the broader context of using quinines  and other anti-parasitics. Injecting bleach became a shorthand.
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Re: The “Debate” 6/27/2024
« Reply #182 on: July 01, 2024, 07:34:11 AM »
Quote from: illiniray on July 01, 2024, 07:28:02 AM
Yes, and the reason they tested this was, of course, because Trump suggested it. /S

"And then I said, supposing you brought the light inside the body,"

He is also suggesting injecting disinfectants. He had talked about bleach as a disinfectant iirc.

I recall him bragging about how medical people consulted with him, because he had such a knack for it.

I think this was also in the broader context of using quinines  and other anti-parasitics. Injecting bleach became a shorthand.
And people everywhere wiped everything down constantly because people other than Trump said it needed to be done.
Wipe your Amazon packages before bringing them into your house. 😂😂
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Re: The “Debate” 6/27/2024
« Reply #183 on: July 01, 2024, 07:37:19 AM »
Quote from: No one is dependably engaged before 10am and after 4pm on July 01, 2024, 07:34:11 AM
And people everywhere wiped everything down constantly because people other than Trump said it needed to be done.
Wipe your Amazon packages before bringing them into your house. 😂😂

" an article from the website Hollywood LA News treated the news as more of a sure thing. The story, headlined “UV light to be used as disinfectant in treating COVID-19 patients,” had more than 1,200 shares in The Official Rush Limbaugh Facebook Group."

“We would like to inform the public that there are no protocols to advise or permit the safe use of UV light directly on the human body at the wavelengths and exposures proven to efficiently kill viruses such as SARS-CoV-2,” a joint news release from the groups said.

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/factcheck/2020/05/02/fact-check-covid-19-uv-light-treatment-research-underway-los-angeles/3053177001/
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Re: The “Debate” 6/27/2024
« Reply #184 on: July 01, 2024, 07:38:00 AM »
Quote from: illiniray on July 01, 2024, 07:14:43 AM
Trump misrepresented the facts 30 times to 9 for Biden. Plus Biden appeared most often to be confused; while Trump's lies appeared to be mostly deliberate and malicious.
Vote for whomever you want. I don't care.
Vote for the guy who said Abbey gate didn't happen. Tell the family members that Biden was just confused. That should go over well.
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Re: The “Debate” 6/27/2024
« Reply #185 on: July 01, 2024, 07:45:52 AM »
Quote from: illiniray on July 01, 2024, 07:37:19 AM
" an article from the website Hollywood LA News treated the news as more of a sure thing. The story, headlined “UV light to be used as disinfectant in treating COVID-19 patients,” had more than 1,200 shares in The Official Rush Limbaugh Facebook Group."

“We would like to inform the public that there are no protocols to advise or permit the safe use of UV light directly on the human body at the wavelengths and exposures proven to efficiently kill viruses such as SARS-CoV-2,” a joint news release from the groups said.

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/factcheck/2020/05/02/fact-check-covid-19-uv-light-treatment-research-underway-los-angeles/3053177001/
Some strong work here.
Using a May 2020 USA Today article to argue a July 2021 Cedar-Sinai release about their findings published in a peer-reviewed journal.
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Re: The “Debate” 6/27/2024
« Reply #186 on: July 01, 2024, 08:16:42 AM »
Quote from: No one is dependably engaged before 10am and after 4pm on July 01, 2024, 07:38:00 AM
Vote for whomever you want. I don't care.
Vote for the guy who said Abbey gate didn't happen. Tell the family members that Biden was just confused. That should go over well.

"There were 2,459 United States military deaths in the War in Afghanistan, which lasted from October 2001 to August 2021. 1,922 of these deaths were the result of hostile action.

Tell the families of the other 2546 that the only ones who matter were the 13 at Abbey Gate.
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Re: The “Debate” 6/27/2024
« Reply #187 on: July 01, 2024, 08:23:05 AM »
Quote from: illiniray on July 01, 2024, 08:16:42 AM
"There were 2,459 United States military deaths in the War in Afghanistan, which lasted from October 2001 to August 2021. 1,922 of these deaths were the result of hostile action.

Tell the families of the other 2546 that the only ones who matter were the 13 at Abbey Gate.
Biden was the one, not Trump, who said Thursday that no service members died under his watch.
Spin it all you want.
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Re: The “Debate” 6/27/2024
« Reply #188 on: July 01, 2024, 10:41:02 AM »
I guess I don’t see the point of continuing to be a Joe Biden apologist and cheerleader at this point. Yes, I know he is currently the alternative to Trump and for many that’s all it takes, but Biden is done. He has no business being in office for 4.5 more years, if he can even live that long. The best bet is to cut bait and get someone better in there ASAP rather than rearranging the deck chairs on the Titanic.
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Re: The “Debate” 6/27/2024
« Reply #189 on: July 01, 2024, 11:23:58 AM »
Quote from: Judge Judy on June 30, 2024, 01:35:09 PM
Yeah, sure, you can call it that 😂🙄

What else would I call it? A tourist visit?
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Re: The “Debate” 6/27/2024
« Reply #190 on: July 01, 2024, 11:37:01 AM »
Quote from: Hawk Tuah on July 01, 2024, 11:23:58 AM
What else would I call it? A tourist visit?

unguided tour?
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Re: The “Debate” 6/27/2024
« Reply #191 on: July 01, 2024, 11:42:17 AM »
Quote from: ILLove1997 on July 01, 2024, 11:37:01 AM
unguided tour?

That included gallows and the objective of overturning a democratic election?
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Re: The “Debate” 6/27/2024
« Reply #192 on: July 01, 2024, 12:16:49 PM »
Quote from: Hawk Tuah on July 01, 2024, 11:42:17 AM
That included gallows and the objective of overturning a democratic election?

I’m sure 1/6 was reported about as accurately as the protests of 2020. As in, 100% partisan when the truth lies more in the middle.
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Re: The “Debate” 6/27/2024
« Reply #193 on: July 01, 2024, 12:19:29 PM »
Quote from: FaninCa on June 30, 2024, 03:07:59 PM
Gotta love Custard's "The Dems should be courting me!!" schtick.

They 100% should. I’m part of the class of people they used to identify as a core constituency, but have lost sight of in all the pandering to special interest groups.

It’s always the economy!

Enjoy losing to one of the worst candidates of all time…again.
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Re: The “Debate” 6/27/2024
« Reply #194 on: July 01, 2024, 01:04:59 PM »
Quote from: No one is dependably engaged before 10am and after 4pm on July 01, 2024, 08:23:05 AM
Biden was the one, not Trump, who said Thursday that no service members died under his watch.
Spin it all you want.

I don't give a fuck what came out of Biden's mouth. He clearly was not right in the head.

Biden is sick.

Trump is evil and compared to a mentally disabled Biden, relatively good at it.

I don't understand why you are gloating about it.

A competent debater armed with facts and minimal communication skills would have easily defeated Trump.

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