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Title: The Frans
Post by: fucking on December 05, 2021, 11:06:27 AM
https://youtu.be/RIuAu6jkKII
https://youtu.be/_a6lM3GcVWo
Title: Re: The Frans
Post by: Lkdog on December 06, 2021, 12:52:48 AM
Goode is a baller.

Will be tough game tomorrow. Iowa has a lot of weapons.
Not sure what to make of the reply to the Curbelo status question.
It was more about what was not said.
Title: Re: The Frans
Post by: fucking on December 06, 2021, 01:01:36 AM
https://illinireport.info/2021/12/the-fighting-frans/
Title: Re: The Frans
Post by: Custard on December 06, 2021, 02:44:48 PM
Don’t feel real great about this one.
Title: Re: The Frans
Post by: ILLove1997 on December 06, 2021, 02:56:32 PM
I hope we beat their ass

can't wait for the game!
Title: Re: The Frans
Post by: ridingthegrange on December 06, 2021, 03:17:14 PM
We're dogs for a reason.  Let's hope that's a motivator.  Should be a good watch.
Title: Re: The Frans
Post by: frankiew on December 06, 2021, 04:37:04 PM
Can we expect more PT from Hutch tonight?
Title: Re: The Frans
Post by: spark mandrill on December 06, 2021, 05:42:43 PM
I watched Rob ask a parking attendant where he should go.  Celebrity sighting.
Title: Re: The Frans
Post by: ThePAMan on December 06, 2021, 05:52:09 PM
I watched Rob ask a parking attendant where he should go.  Celebrity sighting.

No picture?
Title: Re: The Frans
Post by: Daejon Love on December 06, 2021, 05:53:09 PM
I watched Rob ask a parking attendant where he should go.  Celebrity sighting.

Did he point him to “oversized vehicles?”
Title: Re: The Frans
Post by: ThePAMan on December 06, 2021, 05:54:20 PM
Did he point him to “oversized vehicles?”

Jobu should like this one, one would think.
Title: Re: The Frans
Post by: No one in Mn on December 06, 2021, 05:55:25 PM
LKDog, you're going. Right ?
Good luck.
Title: Re: The Frans
Post by: spark mandrill on December 06, 2021, 05:59:22 PM
No picture?

Was too quick to snap.
Title: Re: The Frans
Post by: ThePAMan on December 06, 2021, 06:00:11 PM
Was too quick to snap.

Have fun tonight, Spark. Bring home a winner.
Title: Re: The Frans
Post by: Judge Judy on December 06, 2021, 06:08:44 PM
Great start. Plummer is on a whole different level right now.
Title: Re: The Frans
Post by: jayboek on December 06, 2021, 06:09:53 PM
Payne comes in and 1st thing he does is a moving screen.  This dude is an offensive liability
Title: Re: The Frans
Post by: Judge Judy on December 06, 2021, 06:10:35 PM
Payne comes in and 1st thing he does is a moving screen.  This dude is an offensive liability

And it wiped out a Plummer 3 😩
Title: Re: The Frans
Post by: illinicalvin on December 06, 2021, 06:14:20 PM
Was too quick to snap.
I feel like Rob should be getting HQers in with the press on these road games.

Shooting well so far, particularly away from home.
Title: Re: The Frans
Post by: Judge Judy on December 06, 2021, 06:14:49 PM
Holy fuck, Plummer is the best shooter in the nation. Dude just doesn’t miss and already has 11. Wow
Title: Re: The Frans
Post by: Dominic on December 06, 2021, 06:16:28 PM
Illinois is better with Plummer than Curbelo
Title: Re: The Frans
Post by: jayboek on December 06, 2021, 06:17:01 PM
The backup bigs are absolute trash.
Title: Re: The Frans
Post by: Judge Judy on December 06, 2021, 06:17:57 PM
The backup bigs are absolute trash.

Neither Payne or BBV has any resemblance of an offensive skill set.
Title: Re: The Frans
Post by: jayboek on December 06, 2021, 06:24:24 PM
Bad Frazier tonight?
Title: Re: The Frans
Post by: Dominic on December 06, 2021, 06:25:37 PM
Kofi should have 30 points if Iowa is going to play so small.
Title: Re: The Frans
Post by: spark mandrill on December 06, 2021, 06:27:13 PM
Kofi’s gotten slapped so loud I can hear it in the stands the last couple times he’s touched the ball.
Title: Re: The Frans
Post by: jayboek on December 06, 2021, 06:27:52 PM
Kofi should have 30 points if Iowa is going to play so small.
why doesn't someone ever cut to the basket especially the dude whose doubling or tripling kofi????
Title: Re: The Frans
Post by: illinicalvin on December 06, 2021, 06:27:59 PM
Neither Payne or BBV has any resemblance of an offensive skill set.
And if we're playing DW at the same time it's basically 3 v. 5 on offense.
Title: Re: The Frans
Post by: frankiew on December 06, 2021, 06:29:29 PM
i don't understand how Iowa doesn't have a more dedicated fanbase
Title: Re: The Frans
Post by: Judge Judy on December 06, 2021, 06:29:51 PM
Kofi’s gotten slapped so loud I can hear it in the stands the last couple times he’s touched the ball.

Some home cookin, huh?
Title: Re: The Frans
Post by: Lkdog on December 06, 2021, 06:29:58 PM
Welcome to the road. We are shell shocked right now
Title: Re: The Frans
Post by: Dominic on December 06, 2021, 06:30:38 PM
19-2 run.  Illinois can’t handle the trap
Title: Re: The Frans
Post by: illinicalvin on December 06, 2021, 06:30:59 PM
19-2 run since our subs started rotating in.
Title: Re: The Frans
Post by: Miles Leonard on December 06, 2021, 06:31:11 PM
21-2 run. Ouch.
Title: Re: The Frans
Post by: jayboek on December 06, 2021, 06:31:25 PM
Get fucking williams out of the p.g
 Spot.
Title: Re: The Frans
Post by: Judge Judy on December 06, 2021, 06:31:29 PM
We’re playing like a bunch of pussy bitches!
Title: Re: The Frans
Post by: Judge Judy on December 06, 2021, 06:36:58 PM
Grandison stepping up.
Title: Re: The Frans
Post by: spark mandrill on December 06, 2021, 06:38:35 PM
Refs are letting them be pretty physical with us I’d say.  Kofi manhandled as soon as he touches it, just got a turnover by hockey checking Plummer with no call.
Title: Re: The Frans
Post by: Dominic on December 06, 2021, 06:38:44 PM
Grandison’s set shot 3 is so awkward looking it’s shocking he’s hitting over 40%
Title: Re: The Frans
Post by: Judge Judy on December 06, 2021, 06:38:52 PM
Damn Plummer just got fucking mauled and no call. They’re beating the shit out of us! Then they call a ticky-tack on us on the other end. Wtf
Title: Re: The Frans
Post by: Judge Judy on December 06, 2021, 06:43:25 PM
Trent just got hit too on the fast break. Wtf. Out of bounds on Iowa. Then traveling on Iowa. These refs are trash. Idgaf that I’m bitching about how terrible they are.
Title: Re: The Frans
Post by: Lkdog on December 06, 2021, 06:46:22 PM
Yeah I am here.  Refs are a little loose.

Grandpa hitting some threes.
Gotta get Kofi going.
Title: Re: The Frans
Post by: Judge Judy on December 06, 2021, 06:49:15 PM
Nice finish to the half after a meltdown by Illini.
Title: Re: The Frans
Post by: Dominic on December 06, 2021, 06:49:29 PM
Key to that half was taking Damonte out once they got behind 31-22.

Frazier, Grandison, Plummer, Hawkins, Kofi is the best offensive lineup we can play
Title: Re: The Frans
Post by: Miles Leonard on December 06, 2021, 06:50:46 PM
17-5 run. That’s how you finish a half.

Up 3 with Kofi only scoring 3. Plummer and Grandison are money.
Title: Re: The Frans
Post by: Lkdog on December 06, 2021, 06:55:52 PM
We had 8 threes. I doubt we hit that in second half
Title: Re: The Frans
Post by: spark mandrill on December 06, 2021, 06:56:29 PM
If they’re gonna let them mug Kofi we’re gonna need the other dudes a lot.
Title: Re: The Frans
Post by: Lkdog on December 06, 2021, 07:01:29 PM
This place is half empty by the way.
Weird. Iowa is good.
Title: Re: The Frans
Post by: Chickengeorge on December 06, 2021, 07:03:57 PM
Damn Kofi, you need to finish.
Title: Re: The Frans
Post by: jayboek on December 06, 2021, 07:05:27 PM
What's the deal with Kofi?  Terrible.
Title: Re: The Frans
Post by: spark mandrill on December 06, 2021, 07:11:56 PM
This place is half empty by the way.
Weird. Iowa is good.

I was wondering what the hell that’s about.  It’s filled out a lot since tip but still easily less than 80%.
Title: Re: The Frans
Post by: spark mandrill on December 06, 2021, 07:12:23 PM
What's the deal with Kofi?  Terrible.

He’s being hacked like a motherfucker every time he touches the ball, that isn’t helping.  Has def missed some bunnies too.
Title: Re: The Frans
Post by: illinifan57 on December 06, 2021, 07:13:43 PM
Refs are letting them be pretty physical with us I’d say.  Kofi manhandled as soon as he touches it, just got a turnover by hockey checking Plummer with no call.
Iowa has more tackles in this game than the football game last Saturday night.
Title: Re: The Frans
Post by: jayboek on December 06, 2021, 07:16:03 PM
How do u brick a layup frazier?
Title: Re: The Frans
Post by: Judge Judy on December 06, 2021, 07:19:05 PM
You can’t play this lineup! No offense at all!
Title: Re: The Frans
Post by: Lkdog on December 06, 2021, 07:20:04 PM
That was not a good lineup out there for a couple minutes
Title: Re: The Frans
Post by: dwc13 on December 06, 2021, 07:20:14 PM
Uh, bank.
Title: Re: The Frans
Post by: No one in Mn on December 06, 2021, 07:20:53 PM
Whole different offensive ball game for us when xxxx misses and can't set up their defense.
We don't seem to be letting shooters as wide open as we have in the past.
Title: Re: The Frans
Post by: Judge Judy on December 06, 2021, 07:21:23 PM
That was not a good lineup out there for a couple minutes

Basically Trent and Grandison for offense. And only Trent can create a shot if needed. Hopefully Underwood switches it up quick.
Title: Re: The Frans
Post by: Judge Judy on December 06, 2021, 07:22:39 PM
Whole different offensive ball game for us when xxxx misses and can't set up their defense.
We don't seem to be letting shooters as wide open as we have in the past.

Them not having Garza is a big part of that. They have no inside presence at all.
Title: Re: The Frans
Post by: Chickengeorge on December 06, 2021, 07:23:03 PM
Feed the big fella.  They're dropping now.
Title: Re: The Frans
Post by: illinifan57 on December 06, 2021, 07:25:03 PM
My goodness, a foul call against Iowa.

bif 3 for Frazier.
Title: Re: The Frans
Post by: Chickengeorge on December 06, 2021, 07:28:39 PM
Take care of the damn ball.
Title: Re: The Frans
Post by: illinifan57 on December 06, 2021, 07:31:23 PM
I wish that jackasz straight across from Iowa's bench would SIT DOWN, freaking annoying.
Title: Re: The Frans
Post by: Miles Leonard on December 06, 2021, 07:34:24 PM
Really guys? You can't even get the ball past half court?

And then you foul on a 3. Fuck.
Title: Re: The Frans
Post by: Judge Judy on December 06, 2021, 07:34:44 PM
Three 10 second calls. Then foul a three point shooter as he sinks it. Fuck!
Title: Re: The Frans
Post by: Chickengeorge on December 06, 2021, 07:35:52 PM
Were up 62 - 47 with the ball.  And now this. 
Title: Re: The Frans
Post by: Miles Leonard on December 06, 2021, 07:36:19 PM
Delayed whistle. You better call that shit, you clowns.
Title: Re: The Frans
Post by: Judge Judy on December 06, 2021, 07:36:53 PM
I’m liking our guys diving to the basket when Kofi gets it the last 2 possessions.
Title: Re: The Frans
Post by: Judge Judy on December 06, 2021, 07:37:12 PM
Delayed whistle. You better call that shit, you clowns.

Fuck these refs!
Title: Re: The Frans
Post by: Chickengeorge on December 06, 2021, 07:38:08 PM
Flopping bullshit.
Title: Re: The Frans
Post by: Miles Leonard on December 06, 2021, 07:38:17 PM
We're trying to piss this one away.
Title: Re: The Frans
Post by: spark mandrill on December 06, 2021, 07:42:24 PM
Delayed whistle. You better call that shit, you clowns.

That shit made me mad.  Right call but Jesus don’t wait to see if he makes it before you blow the whistle.
Title: Re: The Frans
Post by: Lkdog on December 06, 2021, 07:42:34 PM
We are really lost against this press.
Hopefully they don't get a run at end here.
Title: Re: The Frans
Post by: spark mandrill on December 06, 2021, 07:42:48 PM
 Was Damonte as set as he looked on that screen?
Title: Re: The Frans
Post by: Judge Judy on December 06, 2021, 07:43:29 PM
Was Damonte as set as he looked on that screen?

Yes. He’s looking for a fight afterwards too😂
Title: Re: The Frans
Post by: Chickengeorge on December 06, 2021, 07:43:54 PM
Was Damonte as set as he looked on that screen?

Didn't look like much.  Other than the flop.
Title: Re: The Frans
Post by: Miles Leonard on December 06, 2021, 07:47:16 PM
We are really lost against this press.
Hopefully they don't get a run at end here.

You see a 10 second call once every blue moon.  Back-to-back 10 second calls is unheard of and totally inexcusable. I've never seen that in all my years of watching basketball.
Title: Re: The Frans
Post by: Judge Judy on December 06, 2021, 07:48:36 PM
You see a 10 second call once every blue moon.  Back-to-back 10 second calls is unheard of and totally inexcusable. I've never seen that in all my years of watching basketball.

And I think 3 for the whole game so far. Quite unbelievable
Title: Re: The Frans
Post by: No one in Mn on December 06, 2021, 07:49:05 PM
Was Damonte as set as he looked on that screen?
Looked like he leaned a little, but I don't think he asked the xxxx guy how classes are going. 
Title: Re: The Frans
Post by: illinifan57 on December 06, 2021, 07:50:59 PM
Didn't look like much.  Other than the flop.
Williams was set. BS calll
Title: Re: The Frans
Post by: Chickengeorge on December 06, 2021, 07:51:07 PM
Plummer!
Title: Re: The Frans
Post by: Miles Leonard on December 06, 2021, 07:52:50 PM
Can't make that pass, Trent.
Title: Re: The Frans
Post by: Chickengeorge on December 06, 2021, 07:53:26 PM
Where was the contact there?
Title: Re: The Frans
Post by: Judge Judy on December 06, 2021, 07:53:48 PM
Fuck!
Title: Re: The Frans
Post by: illinifan57 on December 06, 2021, 07:54:38 PM
Jeez, take care of the ball

8-0 run
Title: Re: The Frans
Post by: Judge Judy on December 06, 2021, 07:54:43 PM
We’re shitting the bed against this press.
Title: Re: The Frans
Post by: Judge Judy on December 06, 2021, 07:55:21 PM
Jeez, take care of the ball

8-0 run

In only 1 minute.

Quit sucking Murray’s dick Bardo!
Title: Re: The Frans
Post by: Judge Judy on December 06, 2021, 07:55:59 PM
That’s a fucking foul!!!!
Title: Re: The Frans
Post by: Chickengeorge on December 06, 2021, 07:57:47 PM
Where was the foul?
Title: Re: The Frans
Post by: Judge Judy on December 06, 2021, 07:58:19 PM
That’s not a foul on Damonte
Title: Re: The Frans
Post by: Miles Leonard on December 06, 2021, 07:58:59 PM
FUCK YEAH PLUMMER
Title: Re: The Frans
Post by: Judge Judy on December 06, 2021, 07:59:27 PM
Plummer iced that shit!
Title: Re: The Frans
Post by: No one in Mn on December 06, 2021, 07:59:32 PM
Geez, I thought they were going to pull Plummers arm out getting him off the floor.
Title: Re: The Frans
Post by: illinifan57 on December 06, 2021, 07:59:54 PM
PLUMMER!!
Title: Re: The Frans
Post by: dwc13 on December 06, 2021, 08:04:11 PM
Great job rebounding by the Illini. 50-23 edge overall and 19-9 on the offensive board so far. 
Title: Re: The Frans
Post by: No one in Mn on December 06, 2021, 08:08:21 PM
Great job on free throws too
Title: Re: The Frans
Post by: Chickengeorge on December 06, 2021, 08:08:26 PM
That was a quiet 20 points for Grandison
Title: Re: The Frans
Post by: Judge Judy on December 06, 2021, 08:08:51 PM
That was a quiet 20 points for Grandison

Player of the game.
Title: Re: The Frans
Post by: Chickengeorge on December 06, 2021, 08:10:02 PM
Player of the game.

Let's see if he can make it 22.
Title: Re: The Frans
Post by: No one in Mn on December 06, 2021, 08:10:51 PM
Great job by LKdog and Spark too. 👍
Title: Re: The Frans
Post by: Chickengeorge on December 06, 2021, 08:11:07 PM
Suck it, Iowa. 
Title: Re: The Frans
Post by: illinifan57 on December 06, 2021, 08:12:06 PM
Eat it Fran, bitch
Title: Re: The Frans
Post by: No one in Mn on December 06, 2021, 08:12:16 PM
Tough place for us to get a win.
Title: Re: The Frans
Post by: Jobu on December 06, 2021, 08:12:23 PM
Good win. That’s a hard god damn place to play. Any big 10 road win is gold.
Title: Re: The Frans
Post by: Judge Judy on December 06, 2021, 08:12:27 PM
Fuck you, Iowa
Title: Re: The Frans
Post by: Miles Leonard on December 06, 2021, 08:14:41 PM
Grandison just had to make it interesting by missing the first FT.

I'll never complain about a conference road W. We took their punch and counter punched those fucking farm boys right back.

Fuck you, Fran and your loser farm boys.

Now spend the next few days working on press break please.
Title: Re: The Frans
Post by: Dominic on December 06, 2021, 08:15:33 PM
Grandison and Plummer won that game 
Title: Re: The Frans
Post by: Judge Judy on December 06, 2021, 08:16:09 PM
Huge game against Arizona coming up. Win that one and we might just have something.
Title: Re: The Frans
Post by: illinifan57 on December 06, 2021, 08:17:35 PM
Tough place for us to get a win.
Nice to get a win the northwest suburb of Illinois.
Title: Re: The Frans
Post by: Miles Leonard on December 06, 2021, 08:18:52 PM
Grandison and Plummer won that game

No idea Steph Curry was still playing college ball. Plummer is looking like a helluva portal pick up by the staff.
Title: Re: The Frans
Post by: Miles Leonard on December 06, 2021, 08:21:41 PM
Tough place for us to get a win.

Yep. Winning on the road in conference is no easy task. Proud to get that one for Trent and Damonte.
Title: Re: The Frans
Post by: Custard on December 06, 2021, 08:22:09 PM
Down go the chocolate Michael Cera twins
Title: Re: The Frans
Post by: No one in Mn on December 06, 2021, 08:23:05 PM
17 points, 18 boards and 5-6 at the line for the big guy.
Title: Re: The Frans
Post by: Dominic on December 06, 2021, 08:23:35 PM
Plummer is everything Aaron Cosby was supposed to be.  Excellent 1 year free agent
Title: Re: The Frans
Post by: Lkdog on December 06, 2021, 08:25:13 PM
Yes.
Great win.
Title: Re: The Frans
Post by: Miles Leonard on December 06, 2021, 08:26:34 PM
This is our first 2-0 start in conference play since 2013-14.
Title: Re: The Frans
Post by: Chickengeorge on December 06, 2021, 08:27:54 PM
Plummer is looking like a helluva portal pick up by the staff.

We were due.
Title: Re: The Frans
Post by: ThePAMan on December 06, 2021, 08:33:05 PM
Better without Curbelo and Ayo?
Title: Re: The Frans
Post by: Beach Bum on December 06, 2021, 08:37:40 PM
God I love beating Iowa.  Frazier needs to stop pissing the ball away with 30 seconds or less on the clock.  Shades of Marquette. 

Plummer is a stud. 

It's early but have to think Kofi's stock is increasing, hopefully validating his reason for returning.  Of course it helps to advance far in the tourney something that hurt both his and Ayo's stock this past March. 
Title: Re: The Frans
Post by: illinicalvin on December 06, 2021, 08:43:30 PM
Solid road win overall. Great to get 2-0 in the bag and Iowa seems a likely tourney team.
Title: Re: The Frans
Post by: spark mandrill on December 06, 2021, 08:45:40 PM
So that was a lot of fuckin' fun.
Title: Re: The Frans
Post by: spark mandrill on December 06, 2021, 08:46:42 PM
In only 1 minute.

Quit sucking Murray’s dick Bardo!

Murray deserved every bit of that action from Bardo in the last 10 minutes.  He was fantastic.  Looks like a lotto guy to me, hard to imagine that he had no other high major offers.
Title: Re: The Frans
Post by: spark mandrill on December 06, 2021, 08:47:39 PM
 gt!!
Better without Curbelo and Ayo?

Uh, I'd rather have them...
Title: Re: The Frans
Post by: spark mandrill on December 06, 2021, 08:48:19 PM
IDK how that sign emoji got there but I'm leaving it.
Title: Re: The Frans
Post by: illinicalvin on December 06, 2021, 08:56:43 PM
We were due.
Best transfer in for some time. Rice, maybe?
Title: Re: The Frans
Post by: Judge Judy on December 06, 2021, 09:00:56 PM
Best transfer in for some time. Rice, maybe?

Or Feliz
Title: Re: The Frans
Post by: illinismitty on December 06, 2021, 09:13:07 PM
Plummer, Frazier, and Grandison stepped up! Plummer was a nice get! and FUCK IOWA! This is how I will sleep tonight

(https://pyxis.nymag.com/v1/imgs/b23/c74/beb5be78b69f95ff1e3a50cc8a6a924153-03-sleep-aid-lede.2x.rsocial.w600.jpg)
Title: Re: The Frans
Post by: ThePAMan on December 06, 2021, 09:21:16 PM
IDK how that sign emoji got there but I'm leaving it.

Please tell us that Rob and you are sharing a Bloomin Onion and a hotel room tonight!
Title: Re: The Frans
Post by: Jobu on December 06, 2021, 09:37:42 PM
Please tell us that Rob and you are sharing a Bloomin Onion and a hotel room tonight!

I really hope so.
Title: Re: The Frans
Post by: spark mandrill on December 06, 2021, 09:44:11 PM
Please tell us that Rob and you are sharing a Bloomin Onion and a hotel room tonight!

I don't kiss and tell.
Title: Re: The Frans
Post by: Miles Leonard on December 06, 2021, 10:01:19 PM
Well said, Ayo

https://twitter.com/AyoDos_11/status/1468061922318852097
Title: Re: The Frans
Post by: fucking on December 06, 2021, 10:11:37 PM
I feel like Rob should be getting HQers in with the press on these road games.

Shooting well so far, particularly away from home.

I could use the help.
Title: Re: The Frans
Post by: Judge Judy on December 06, 2021, 10:15:59 PM
https://twitter.com/designallaround/status/1468040580861075456?s=21
Title: Re: The Frans
Post by: illinismitty on December 06, 2021, 10:47:08 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V7dg8vRDM68 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V7dg8vRDM68)
Title: Re: The Frans
Post by: ILLove1997 on December 06, 2021, 10:57:37 PM
That was a quality game!
Title: Re: The Frans
Post by: Custard on December 06, 2021, 11:11:35 PM
Keegan Murray is what we want Coleman Hawkins to be. Coleman shows these amazing flashes and then follows them up with head scratching meltdowns. I think he will turn the corner as the season progresses. The new offense looks so much better.
Title: Re: The Frans
Post by: Custard on December 06, 2021, 11:19:08 PM
I bet it’s been a while since we had four guys with 17 or more points in a game
Title: Re: The Frans
Post by: Lkdog on December 07, 2021, 01:04:28 AM
Huge game against Arizona coming up. Win that one and we might just have something.

KenPom has us winning by 3. They are #12 and we are #13.
Title: Re: The Frans
Post by: fucking on December 07, 2021, 04:53:04 AM
Fuck you, Iowa
This doesn't make any sense. You're the embodiment of Iowa.
Title: Re: The Frans
Post by: fucking on December 07, 2021, 05:38:31 AM
I watched Rob ask a parking attendant where he should go.  Celebrity sighting.
She was competent, and succinct. What a blessing.

I think you're missing the big picture, though. There's no organization at Carver-Hawkeye. It's a disaster.
Title: Re: The Frans
Post by: No one in Mn on December 07, 2021, 06:01:57 AM
Plummer, Frazier, and Grandison stepped up! Plummer was a nice get! and FUCK IOWA! This is how I will sleep tonight

(https://pyxis.nymag.com/v1/imgs/b23/c74/beb5be78b69f95ff1e3a50cc8a6a924153-03-sleep-aid-lede.2x.rsocial.w600.jpg)
You sleep ok ?
I slept great, and felt like that when I woke up today.
Title: Re: The Frans
Post by: OskeeWowWoe on December 07, 2021, 06:09:46 AM
Very nice win, but, Steve Bardo is so fucking annoying to listen to.  I could only take small doses at commercials from MNF. 
Title: Re: The Frans
Post by: Judge Judy on December 07, 2021, 07:24:08 AM
This doesn't make any sense. You're the embodiment of Iowa.

Have you looked in the mirror? You’re the dumb, white, fat, corn fed guy, not I.  !!!!!!

Oh I forgot inbred too.
Title: Re: The Frans
Post by: Jobu on December 07, 2021, 08:05:41 AM
She was competent, and succinct. What a blessing.

I think you're missing the big picture, though. There's no organization at Carver-Hawkeye. It's a disaster.

There's no organization at Iowa period.

I took my son there for a college visit, and the whole day was a clusterfuck.  They couldn't handle splitting people up for tours, the student workers seemed bottom of the barrel (maybe not, might just be Iowa), and the chemical engineering lab was a total fucking mess.  You would think with a tour group coming through they would clean up a little.  Shithole.

They couldn't even hand out pens to people to do their survey in any kind of organized manner. 

Just a clusterfuck all the way around.
Title: Re: The Frans
Post by: illinismitty on December 07, 2021, 08:59:57 AM
Very nice win, but, Steve Bardo is so fucking annoying to listen to.  I could only take small doses at commercials from MNF.

I can't stand him either.
Title: Re: The Frans
Post by: spark mandrill on December 07, 2021, 09:08:00 AM
She was competent, and succinct. What a blessing.

I think you're missing the big picture, though. There's no organization at Carver-Hawkeye. It's a disaster.

Yeah, I’ve seen you complaining about it on a couple different platforms already.
Title: Re: The Frans
Post by: Daejon Love on December 07, 2021, 09:13:12 AM
What’s wrong with Bardo? Doesn’t homer it up enough?
Title: Re: The Frans
Post by: Chickengeorge on December 07, 2021, 09:17:36 AM
Our first win at Carver since 2017? 

Woke up feeling pretty good about this win.  Connor and Bohannon pretty much non-factors in this one.  Couple of punks. 
Title: Re: The Frans
Post by: Judge Judy on December 07, 2021, 09:48:51 AM
What’s wrong with Bardo? Doesn’t homer it up enough?

It’s that he goes so far out of the way not to be a “homer.” It’s very evident to anybody watching. It’s almost as bad as you with your political beliefs due to your white privilege. Just way too much overcompensation for a lot of people’s liking. But hey, to each their own.
Title: Re: The Frans
Post by: No one in Mn on December 07, 2021, 09:52:58 AM
It’s that he goes so far out of the way not to be a “homer.” It’s very evident to anybody watching. It’s almost as bad as you with your political beliefs due to your white privilege. Just way too much overcompensation for a lot of people’s liking. But hey, to each their own.
I can ignore him fairly easily, but his constant reference to "the rock" is a little too much.
Title: Re: The Frans
Post by: ILLove1997 on December 07, 2021, 10:00:52 AM
I respect his attempts to not be a total homer, must take a lot of restraint
Title: Re: The Frans
Post by: illinismitty on December 07, 2021, 10:01:36 AM
What’s wrong with Bardo? Doesn’t homer it up enough?

He just has an arrogant tone. Comes across as someone trying to be a know-it-all. Hummel is much better.
Title: Re: The Frans
Post by: Lkdog on December 07, 2021, 10:03:17 AM
My kid goes to Iowa.
Last year during Covid was really poorly planned and managed by the entire university.
Total clusterfck.
This year is good.

As for parking, we used one of those spots where people turn their apt. complex lot or front yard into parking spots for the night. 10$ a block away. It was like a game at Wrigley. Have used the regular lots before. It's messy
Title: Re: The Frans
Post by: ILLove1997 on December 07, 2021, 10:10:07 AM
She was competent, and succinct. What a blessing.

I think you're missing the big picture, though. There's no organization at Carver-Hawkeye. It's a disaster.

how's the bike parking there?
Title: Re: The Frans
Post by: Lkdog on December 07, 2021, 10:12:42 AM
He just has an arrogant tone. Comes across as someone trying to be a know-it-all. Hummel is much better.

Hummel is really good.

Saw Trent Meacham on a BT review show the other day.
Didn't know he was on the network.
Title: Re: The Frans
Post by: ridingthegrange on December 07, 2021, 10:22:23 AM
It’s that he goes so far out of the way not to be a “homer.” It’s very evident to anybody watching. It’s almost as bad as you with your political beliefs due to your white privilege. Just way too much overcompensation for a lot of people’s liking. But hey, to each their own.

Couldn't agree more.
Title: Re: The Frans
Post by: Daejon Love on December 07, 2021, 10:24:59 AM
Lol

Bardo is excellent. At least he used to be. Haven’t really listened to him in a while.
Title: Re: The Frans
Post by: No one in Mn on December 07, 2021, 10:52:23 AM
Is. Was. But I dont know about now.
Lol.
Title: Re: The Frans
Post by: ILLove1997 on December 07, 2021, 11:10:23 AM
Lol

Bardo is excellent. At least he used to be. Haven’t really listened to him in a while.

you missed the game last night?
Title: Re: The Frans
Post by: Judge Judy on December 07, 2021, 11:10:38 AM
Lol

Bardo is excellent. At least he used to be. Haven’t really listened to him in a while.

This is why you catch so much flack. You self-admittedly say stuff like this on every topic, then proceed to tell others your opinion is right and theirs is wrong. See Rittenhouse and many numerous other topics on this board. For not being informed on a lot of things, you’re really knowledgeable 🤔
Title: Re: The Frans
Post by: ILLove1997 on December 07, 2021, 11:16:02 AM
This is why you catch so much flack. You self-admittedly say stuff like this on every topic, then proceed to tell others your opinion is right and theirs is wrong. See Rittenhouse and many numerous other topics on this board. For not being informed on a lot of things, you’re really knowledgeable 🤔

Just your every day typical Chicago blow hard
Title: Re: The Frans
Post by: Daejon Love on December 07, 2021, 11:19:20 AM
you missed the game last night?

I watched some of it. I consume NFL football like crack. Im probably going to focus on football more than basketball when I have a chance to win thousands of dollars. I won $1400 on last night’s Patriots/Bills game, and was within 3 points of that being 20k plus.

I record the Illini games, so I can go back and watch whenever I want. I still root for the Illini, but the last 12 years or so really did a number on my Illini passion.
Title: Re: The Frans
Post by: Daejon Love on December 07, 2021, 11:20:49 AM
This is why you catch so much flack. You self-admittedly say stuff like this on every topic, then proceed to tell others your opinion is right and theirs is wrong. See Rittenhouse and many numerous other topics on this board. For not being informed on a lot of things, you’re really knowledgeable 🤔

I’m sorry Stephen Bardo goes out of his way to be professional in his job. And I’m sorry that offends you.
Title: Re: The Frans
Post by: Daejon Love on December 07, 2021, 11:30:27 AM
I remember when Illini nation loved Jay Bilas. Until they didn’t. Always whining about commentators.
Title: Re: The Frans
Post by: Daejon Love on December 07, 2021, 11:32:28 AM
My lineups I had a chance to win big money on were also doing well very early in the game, so yeah. I focused more on that. Flipped back and forth. Plus had to go pick up some Chinese food about 7.
Title: Re: The Frans
Post by: Judge Judy on December 07, 2021, 11:33:47 AM
I’m sorry Stephen Bardo goes out of his way to be professional in his job. And I’m sorry that offends you.

Who said it offends me?! And nice deflection. Noted.
Title: Re: The Frans
Post by: Daejon Love on December 07, 2021, 11:41:19 AM
Who said it offends me?! And nice deflection. Noted.

Apparently it offends you that he tries to do his job professionally, and objectively. Sorry about that.
Title: Re: The Frans
Post by: ThePAMan on December 07, 2021, 12:20:29 PM
My lineups I had a chance to win big money on were also doing well very early in the game, so yeah. I focused more on that. Flipped back and forth. Plus had to go pick up some Chinese food about 7.

Where you get food from and what did you get. Always looking for good Chinese places....
Title: Re: The Frans
Post by: Jobu on December 07, 2021, 12:28:37 PM
Where you get food from and what did you get. Always looking for good Chinese places....

My experience with Chinese food is that if the place is super dingy and looks unfit to walk into, they have excellent food.
Title: Re: The Frans
Post by: ILLove1997 on December 07, 2021, 12:41:07 PM
I watched some of it. I consume NFL football like crack. Im probably going to focus on football more than basketball when I have a chance to win thousands of dollars. I won $1400 on last night’s Patriots/Bills game, and was within 3 points of that being 20k plus.

I record the Illini games, so I can go back and watch whenever I want. I still root for the Illini, but the last 12 years or so really did a number on my Illini passion.


understandable, but the Illini are a fun team to watch this year!  Must see TV for me at least
Title: Re: The Frans
Post by: ILLove1997 on December 07, 2021, 12:42:46 PM
Where you get food from and what did you get. Always looking for good Chinese places....

Lao Sze Chuan in Chinatown is legit, get the Tony's chicken!  Its like crack
Title: Re: The Frans
Post by: ThePAMan on December 07, 2021, 01:20:52 PM
Lao Sze Chuan in Chinatown is legit, get the Tony's chicken!  Its like crack

Been there. Is Tony still in jail?
Title: Re: The Frans
Post by: fucking on December 07, 2021, 03:24:40 PM
My second visit to the Champaign store was disappointing.
Title: Re: The Frans
Post by: Daejon Love on December 07, 2021, 05:00:12 PM
Where you get food from and what did you get. Always looking for good Chinese places....

Nowhere you’d want to go. I live in the burbs now, unfortunately.
Title: Re: The Frans
Post by: fucking on December 07, 2021, 05:07:12 PM
(https://c.tenor.com/tt8WpWm4gi4AAAAC/simpsons-hahah.gif)
Title: Re: The Frans
Post by: ILLove1997 on December 07, 2021, 05:43:52 PM
(https://c.tenor.com/tt8WpWm4gi4AAAAC/simpsons-hahah.gif)

says the guy that never left Shampoo-Banana
Title: Re: The Frans
Post by: fucking on December 07, 2021, 05:52:44 PM
I've lived in DC, Austin and Los Angeles.
Title: Re: The Frans
Post by: ILLove1997 on December 07, 2021, 06:07:27 PM
I've lived in DC, Austin and Los Angeles.

oh well then you're a real fucking retard for going back
Title: Re: The Frans
Post by: fucking on December 07, 2021, 06:14:24 PM
It's still possible to visit those other places, you know.
Title: Re: The Frans
Post by: illiniray on December 07, 2021, 09:37:35 PM
Game of Runs extended highlights

https://youtu.be/5wWiJWul7E0
Title: Re: The Frans
Post by: IlliniGolf on December 07, 2021, 09:47:11 PM
oh well then you're a real fucking retard for going back

Conditions of the trust !
Title: Re: The Frans
Post by: ThePAMan on December 07, 2021, 10:22:41 PM
Nowhere you’d want to go. I live in the burbs now, unfortunately.

What, you live in Romeoville next to McMichael? Dalton next to Tom Dreesen?

Give up the name of the place and what you got. I would drive for decent Chinese food.
Title: Re: The Frans
Post by: Daejon Love on December 08, 2021, 08:15:23 AM
Let’s just say I live close to Les Grobstein.
Title: Re: The Frans
Post by: fucking on December 08, 2021, 09:39:41 AM
Not being sure whether that was a Simpsons character, or maybe John Hughes, I googled him.

Oh, that guy, I thought.

I've met him but didn't know his name.
Title: Re: The Frans
Post by: ThePAMan on December 08, 2021, 09:53:40 AM
Let’s just say I live close to Les Grobstein.

No clue where he lives. What did you order from the Chinese place?
Title: Re: The Frans
Post by: ThePAMan on December 08, 2021, 09:55:57 AM
Let’s just say I live close to Les Grobstein.

Elk Grove Village is far out there. WTF, Tempo?
Title: Re: The Frans
Post by: Daejon Love on December 08, 2021, 10:52:26 AM
Extra spicy shrimp with vegetables, spicy shrimp fried rice, and potstickers for the kid.
Title: Re: The Frans
Post by: Daejon Love on December 08, 2021, 11:01:25 AM
I’m actually in Itasca, but EGV is a driver and a 7 iron away.
Title: Re: The Frans
Post by: Chickengeorge on December 08, 2021, 11:05:28 AM
Wayne from Itasca.  Doesn't have as good a ring to it.
Title: Re: The Frans
Post by: ThePAMan on December 08, 2021, 11:43:42 AM
I’m actually in Itasca, but EGV is a driver and a 7 iron away.

Far drive to the Golden Nugget Pancake House or a slinger from The Diner on Irving Park Road.

Man, that is a far drive.
Title: Re: The Frans
Post by: spark mandrill on December 08, 2021, 03:25:55 PM
Wayne from Itasca.  Doesn't have as good a ring to it.

Sometimes I forget Tempo is Wayne.  God, I love that.  It's a great name, and rare these days.
Title: Re: The Frans
Post by: ThePAMan on December 08, 2021, 04:16:44 PM
Extra spicy shrimp with vegetables, spicy shrimp fried rice, and potstickers for the kid.

No General Tso's chicken? That can be made spicy.
Title: Re: The Frans
Post by: Daejon Love on December 08, 2021, 04:22:11 PM
Sometimes I forget Tempo is Wayne.  God, I love that.  It's a great name, and rare these days.

Popular middle name among mass murderers.
Title: Re: The Frans
Post by: spark mandrill on December 08, 2021, 04:52:07 PM
I had a distant family member when I was growing up (long since deceased) named Wayne.  I don't think I've ever met another one until you.  It's a solid ass name.
Title: Re: The Frans
Post by: fucking on December 08, 2021, 05:13:03 PM
Popular middle name among mass murderers.
You're short-shrifting Wayne Williams here.
Title: Re: The Frans
Post by: Daejon Love on December 08, 2021, 05:21:32 PM
You're short-shrifting Wayne Williams here.

He was set up by the Klan.
Title: Re: The Frans
Post by: Jobu on December 08, 2021, 05:22:03 PM
I have an uncle who’s middle name is Wayne. He’s done time in prison.
Title: Re: The Frans
Post by: spark mandrill on December 08, 2021, 05:27:05 PM
I have an uncle who’s middle name is Wayne. He’s done time in prison.

How many people did he kill?
Title: Re: The Frans
Post by: Jobu on December 08, 2021, 05:30:21 PM
How many people did he kill?

None!
Title: Re: The Frans
Post by: Chickengeorge on December 08, 2021, 05:34:09 PM
None!

yet
Title: Re: The Frans
Post by: Jobu on December 08, 2021, 05:44:25 PM
yet

True. He’s pretty old tho. Really lazy too.
Title: Re: The Frans
Post by: Daejon Love on December 08, 2021, 05:45:23 PM
None!

That you know of.
Title: Re: The Frans
Post by: Jobu on December 08, 2021, 05:49:26 PM
That you know of.

That’s true.
Title: Re: The Frans
Post by: Judge Judy on December 08, 2021, 05:57:30 PM
My grandpa’s name was Wayne. People used to call him Jake. He killed people in WWII and lost his eye sight in the war.
Title: Re: The Frans
Post by: illinicalvin on December 08, 2021, 07:06:31 PM
We had a kid named Wayne in my high school who had a beer gut at 16 and was redneck hilarious. I think he went to jail.
Title: Re: The Frans
Post by: fucking on December 08, 2021, 07:49:52 PM
My grandpa’s name was Wayne. People used to call him Jake. He killed people in WWII and lost his eye sight in the war.
He's not actually your grandfather.
Title: Re: The Frans
Post by: Judge Judy on December 08, 2021, 08:09:49 PM
He's not actually your grandfather.

Interesting. I’m assuming you’re referring to the use of the apostrophe?
Title: Re: The Frans
Post by: Daejon Love on December 08, 2021, 08:18:35 PM
We had a kid named Wayne in my high school who had a beer gut at 16 and was redneck hilarious. I think he went to jail.

An esteemed member of the Wayne Club.
Title: Re: The Frans
Post by: fucking on December 08, 2021, 08:26:50 PM
When I was the center of the sophomore football team, the QB was named Wayne.

He regularly put his hands on my balls.
Title: Re: The Frans
Post by: Daejon Love on December 08, 2021, 08:31:20 PM
When I was the center of the sophomore football team, the QB was named Wayne.

He regularly put his hands on my balls.

Did you like it?
Title: Re: The Frans
Post by: fucking on December 08, 2021, 08:38:05 PM
It was okay.
Title: Re: The Frans
Post by: ThePAMan on December 08, 2021, 08:42:18 PM
It was okay.

Would you like Tempo to give it a try?
Title: Re: The Frans
Post by: fucking on December 08, 2021, 08:57:42 PM
I guess so. If he can find a willing QB.
Title: Re: The Frans
Post by: The_Truth on December 08, 2021, 09:16:40 PM
Illinois is better with Plummer than Curbelo

We’re just better without Curbelo period🤣🤣🤣…
Title: Re: The Frans
Post by: Custard on December 08, 2021, 09:36:54 PM
I guess so. If he can find a willing QB.

🤣
Title: Re: The Frans
Post by: Daejon Love on December 08, 2021, 09:58:11 PM
I guess so. If he can find a willing QB.

Well done.
Title: Re: The Frans
Post by: The_Truth on December 08, 2021, 10:51:56 PM
Illinois is better with Plummer than Curbelo

But you watch and it’ll be just like last year with Ayo…

He’ll come back and chemistry will be gone. 18-12 with a #12 seed if he comes back. 23-7 top 4 seed if he doesn’t…
Title: Re: The Frans
Post by: Custard on December 08, 2021, 11:15:43 PM
Pre-consussion Andre is a unique talent at a position where we are thin. Having him available (and healthy) absolutely gives this team a much higher ceiling if he’s used and coached correctly. Anyone thinking otherwise is a Moran.

The Curbelo we saw earlier (particularly in the Marquette game) was a player we’ve never seen before and never want to see again. I’m hoping this is a combination of Andre’s welfare and a team building exercise. 
Title: Re: The Frans
Post by: Daejon Love on December 09, 2021, 08:37:52 AM
I wonder what Andre’s middle name is.
Title: Re: The Frans
Post by: Jobu on December 09, 2021, 08:53:50 AM
André Jael Curbelo Rodríguez (born October 13, 2001) is a Puerto Rican college basketball player for the Illinois Fighting Illini of the Big Ten Conference.
Title: Re: The Frans
Post by: Chickengeorge on December 09, 2021, 08:57:00 AM
I wonder what Andre’s middle name is.

No, it's not "Wayne".  Get over yourself.
Title: Re: The Frans
Post by: spark mandrill on December 09, 2021, 10:05:46 AM
But you watch and it’ll be just like last year with Ayo…

He’ll come back and chemistry will be gone. 18-12 with a #12 seed if he comes back. 23-7 top 4 seed if he doesn’t…

Just like last year when Ayo came back and we immediately won the conference tourney?
Title: Re: The Frans
Post by: Custard on December 09, 2021, 10:39:58 AM
Andre Wayne Curbelo
Title: Re: The Frans
Post by: No one in Mn on December 09, 2021, 12:04:16 PM
Alfonso Wayne The Assassin Plummer
Title: Re: The Frans
Post by: Daejon Love on December 09, 2021, 12:27:18 PM
Lol
Title: Re: The Frans
Post by: spark mandrill on December 09, 2021, 03:32:35 PM
Andre Wayne Curbelo

This is canon now.
Title: Re: The Frans
Post by: The_Truth on December 09, 2021, 08:41:50 PM
Just like last year when Ayo came back and we immediately won the conference tourney?

Yeah I remember when he tried to give away the championship against Ohio state…
Title: Re: The Frans
Post by: Dominic on December 10, 2021, 05:53:41 PM
Pre-consussion Andre is a unique talent at a position where we are thin. Having him available (and healthy) absolutely gives this team a much higher ceiling if he’s used and coached correctly. Anyone thinking otherwise is a Moran.

The Curbelo we saw earlier (particularly in the Marquette game) was a player we’ve never seen before and never want to see again. I’m hoping this is a combination of Andre’s welfare and a team building exercise.

Thing is Plummer or Frazier have to be on the bench if Curbelo is in. You wouldn’t want to play all 3 of those guys at the same time.  But you def want Plummer to play as many minutes as possible right now.

So it comes down to thinking whether you believe Frazier or Curbelo is better.  Frazier is far better on defense and outside shooting.  Curbelo is better at creating shots for Kofi.

Since even with Curbelo out, Kofi has still gotten plenty of touches - I think the team is far worse with Curbelo in the lineup and 1 of Plummer/Frazier/Grandison (if you were to play all 3 guards at once) on the bench. 

Title: Re: The Frans
Post by: Lkdog on March 06, 2022, 06:16:32 PM
OK, this is the correct Fuckeye thread and since we won the first game we should use this one maybe??

Title: Re: The Frans
Post by: Judge Judy on March 06, 2022, 06:17:43 PM
Sorry, I’m high and a dipshit. Either way, let’s kick these motherfucker in the balls tonight!
Title: Re: The Frans
Post by: No one in Mn on March 06, 2022, 06:20:23 PM

Illinois Burner
@illinihead21
·
22h
Illinois is the only non ACC team to win twice at Cameron Indoor during the Coach K era #Illini.

Hehehe.
Title: Re: The Frans
Post by: ridingthegrange on March 06, 2022, 06:22:27 PM
Illinois Burner
@illinihead21
·
22h
Illinois is the only non ACC team to win twice at Cameron Indoor during the Coach K era #Illini.

Hehehe.


Good to know! 
Title: Re: The Frans
Post by: Judge Judy on March 06, 2022, 06:26:15 PM
(https://i.ibb.co/9vjM2Nz/E1-D34-D50-8-FF8-49-A1-9-BC8-FF7-FF93060-E4.png) (https://ibb.co/sPrBQ2k)

Where’s Fran gonna be tonight?!
Title: Re: The Frans
Post by: dwc13 on March 06, 2022, 06:29:23 PM
Don’t feel real great about this one.

The Huskers gifted Illinois a big opportunity for a piece of hardware. Might as well take advantage.
Title: Re: The Frans
Post by: Miles Leonard on March 06, 2022, 06:31:40 PM
Thank fuck useless women's basketball is not gonna delay us.
Title: Re: The Frans
Post by: Judge Judy on March 06, 2022, 06:32:58 PM
Thank fuck useless women's basketball is not gonna delay us.

I was thinking and saying the same thing!
Title: Re: The Frans
Post by: No one in Mn on March 06, 2022, 06:34:27 PM
I looked to see what FS1 had before us.
Good.
Women's hoops. They don't go over 2 hours.
Title: Re: The Frans
Post by: The_Truth on March 06, 2022, 06:42:28 PM
I actually like Kofi and Hawkins in at the same time because it’s the size duo we’ve been missing…

What does underwhelm do…

Immediately pulls Hawkins for goofy…
Title: Re: The Frans
Post by: The_Truth on March 06, 2022, 06:44:41 PM
Enough of the and 1 stuff guys…

Just run the plays…
Title: Re: The Frans
Post by: No one in Mn on March 06, 2022, 06:45:16 PM
Smart, Trent. 2 on Bohannon.
Title: Re: The Frans
Post by: No one in Mn on March 06, 2022, 06:47:39 PM
Officials:
Larry Scirotto, Courtney Green, Kelly Pfeifer
Title: Re: The Frans
Post by: The_Truth on March 06, 2022, 06:49:16 PM
What an out of bounds pass that was 🤣🤣🤣
Title: Re: The Frans
Post by: Jrock74 on March 06, 2022, 06:50:11 PM
Shit start
Title: Re: The Frans
Post by: illinifan57 on March 06, 2022, 06:50:57 PM
Smart, Trent. 2 on Bohannon.
Let's get that little sheet outta there.
Title: Re: The Frans
Post by: illinifan57 on March 06, 2022, 06:51:58 PM
Officials:
Larry Scirotto, Courtney Green, Kelly Pfeifer
Green. Just wonderful.
Title: Re: The Frans
Post by: Judge Judy on March 06, 2022, 06:52:33 PM
Officials:
Larry Scirotto, Courtney Green, Kelly Pfeifer

Scirotto not there. There’s a sub. Probably doesn’t wanna show his face in public after his firing.
Title: Re: The Frans
Post by: jayboek on March 06, 2022, 06:54:02 PM
Curbello blows
Title: Re: The Frans
Post by: illinifan57 on March 06, 2022, 06:55:27 PM
Jeez Williams. Can you make it more obvious you fouled him?
Title: Re: The Frans
Post by: The_Truth on March 06, 2022, 06:55:36 PM
Curbello blows

I second this…
Title: Re: The Frans
Post by: Judge Judy on March 06, 2022, 06:55:56 PM
Box out and rebound!
Title: Re: The Frans
Post by: Jrock74 on March 06, 2022, 06:57:06 PM
On pace to score 50
Title: Re: The Frans
Post by: The_Truth on March 06, 2022, 06:57:39 PM
It’s the out of control Curbelo show…

Hard to watch…
Title: Re: The Frans
Post by: The_Truth on March 06, 2022, 07:01:28 PM
Goofy finally contributed…
Title: Re: The Frans
Post by: Judge Judy on March 06, 2022, 07:02:39 PM
Wow Curbelo!
Title: Re: The Frans
Post by: No one in Mn on March 06, 2022, 07:03:06 PM
Curbelo covers for his 1st 4 minutes
Title: Re: The Frans
Post by: Judge Judy on March 06, 2022, 07:05:21 PM
Man, Keegan Murray is really good.
Title: Re: The Frans
Post by: The_Truth on March 06, 2022, 07:07:01 PM
Iowa is FF contenders at this point…

We’ll be lucky to get out of the first weekend…
Title: Re: The Frans
Post by: jayboek on March 06, 2022, 07:07:31 PM
Another stellar illinois offensive performance.
Title: Re: The Frans
Post by: Dominic on March 06, 2022, 07:07:54 PM
Twins are dominating.  Podz/Goode getting too much pt
Title: Re: The Frans
Post by: illinifan57 on March 06, 2022, 07:08:46 PM
Illini defense stinks big time.
Title: Re: The Frans
Post by: Jrock74 on March 06, 2022, 07:08:49 PM
Going to get run out of the gym.  Terrible start and  not playing any defense.  We still haven't set a screen in the half court yet this game.
Title: Re: The Frans
Post by: Jrock74 on March 06, 2022, 07:09:40 PM
Iowa is FF contenders at this point…

We’ll be lucky to get out of the first weekend…

No. No.  They might their 1st round game though.  Big Ten blows ass
Title: Re: The Frans
Post by: Jrock74 on March 06, 2022, 07:09:53 PM
Hot garbage
Title: Re: The Frans
Post by: Jrock74 on March 06, 2022, 07:10:28 PM
28 to 13 run
Title: Re: The Frans
Post by: Jrock74 on March 06, 2022, 07:11:34 PM
Game
Title: Re: The Frans
Post by: Miles Leonard on March 06, 2022, 07:11:48 PM
Senior Night and this is how we show up. Pitiful.
Title: Re: The Frans
Post by: Judge Judy on March 06, 2022, 07:12:12 PM
Damn, wtf are we doing?!
Title: Re: The Frans
Post by: No one in Mn on March 06, 2022, 07:12:16 PM
We're taking tough shots and hitting 28%. They're taking easy shots and shooting 57%
Funny how that works.
Title: Re: The Frans
Post by: jayboek on March 06, 2022, 07:12:30 PM
Illini defense stinks big time.
so does the offense
Title: Re: The Frans
Post by: Daejon Love on March 06, 2022, 07:12:35 PM
Underwood called that timeout about 3 minutes too late. It’s clear they needed one much sooner.

Looking really inspired with a chance to win the Big Ten. SMH
Title: Re: The Frans
Post by: The_Truth on March 06, 2022, 07:12:39 PM
We’re getting Loyola’d at home…

Screw you Underwhelm…

#1 seed on the line and this is the best he can come up with…

What a joke…
Title: Re: The Frans
Post by: Dominic on March 06, 2022, 07:12:56 PM
32-19…Iowa is soft tho.  They will let Illinois back in the game
Title: Re: The Frans
Post by: Miles Leonard on March 06, 2022, 07:13:11 PM
We're taking tough shots and hitting 28%. They're taking easy shots and shooting 57%
Funny how that works.

You're saying we need to attempt easier shots? That's so crazy it might just work!
Title: Re: The Frans
Post by: Judge Judy on March 06, 2022, 07:14:03 PM
It’s a layup line for Iowa
Title: Re: The Frans
Post by: Daejon Love on March 06, 2022, 07:14:14 PM
I’m almost tired of hearing “this team has all the pieces…”
Title: Re: The Frans
Post by: The_Truth on March 06, 2022, 07:14:48 PM
I’m almost tired of hearing “this team has all the pieces…”

🤣🤣🤣
Title: Re: The Frans
Post by: Daejon Love on March 06, 2022, 07:15:19 PM
32-19…Iowa is soft tho.  They will let Illinois back in the game

Confident we will make a run, just hope it’s not an OSU come up short run.
Title: Re: The Frans
Post by: Daejon Love on March 06, 2022, 07:16:14 PM
Would be a fantastic success to cut this to 6 by halftime.
Title: Re: The Frans
Post by: The_Truth on March 06, 2022, 07:16:57 PM
It’s a layup line for Iowa

Pretty much…

Worst defensive Illini team I’ve seen in awhile…
Title: Re: The Frans
Post by: The_Truth on March 06, 2022, 07:22:15 PM
Would be a fantastic success to cut this to 6 by halftime.

Under 10 will be a win at this point…
Title: Re: The Frans
Post by: illinifan57 on March 06, 2022, 07:23:02 PM
Senior Night and this is how we show up. Pitiful.
What you said and a chance to be the regular season champs. Terrible play.
Title: Re: The Frans
Post by: Jrock74 on March 06, 2022, 07:23:10 PM
Anyone else looking forward to our first round ncaa tournament exit?
Title: Re: The Frans
Post by: Miles Leonard on March 06, 2022, 07:24:58 PM
Maybe this will be a reversal of last year. Play meh/shitty down the stretch and make a run in the tourney instead. I'm clinging on to that hope, albeit barely.
Title: Re: The Frans
Post by: dwc13 on March 06, 2022, 07:26:28 PM
Anyone else looking forward to our first round ncaa tournament exit?

So you're thinking Illinois might end up being a dreaded 5 seed, huh.
Title: Re: The Frans
Post by: Miles Leonard on March 06, 2022, 07:26:51 PM
Would be a fantastic success to cut this to 6 by halftime.

Mission accomplished.
Title: Re: The Frans
Post by: Jrock74 on March 06, 2022, 07:26:56 PM
Would be a fantastic success to cut this to 6 by halftime.
Title: Re: The Frans
Post by: Judge Judy on March 06, 2022, 07:27:23 PM
Let’s carry that run into the second half!
Title: Re: The Frans
Post by: Daejon Love on March 06, 2022, 07:27:56 PM
Would be a fantastic success to cut this to 6 by halftime.

Hey, whaddya know?!

We needed that little run. Need to play much better 2nd half. Didn’t care about the Big Ten title all year, but now that’s it’s their for the taking will be disappointing if we don’t get it at home.
Title: Re: The Frans
Post by: illinifan57 on March 06, 2022, 07:28:21 PM
Would be a fantastic success to cut this to 6 by halftime.
There it is at 6. Now they gotta come out and play harder.
Title: Re: The Frans
Post by: Dominic on March 06, 2022, 07:31:01 PM
Iowa should foul Kofi everytime he gets it in the paint.  Make him shoot free throws instead of give him layups
Title: Re: The Frans
Post by: No one in Mn on March 06, 2022, 07:31:06 PM
(https://i.ibb.co/WVNRyDk/Screenshot-20220306-192928.jpg) (https://ibb.co/41w0Ts8)
Title: Re: The Frans
Post by: Judge Judy on March 06, 2022, 07:33:02 PM
Iowa should foul Kofi everytime he gets it in the paint.  Make him shoot free throws instead of give him layups

They do. It just doesn’t get called.
Title: Re: The Frans
Post by: No one in Mn on March 06, 2022, 07:36:12 PM
Kofi's 5-11. They can live with that.
We need some balanced scoring. It's Kofi and Plummmer so far tonight.
Title: Re: The Frans
Post by: illinifan57 on March 06, 2022, 07:36:33 PM
They do. It just doesn’t get called.
Graphics said Kofi is fouled 7.3 times/game. If the refs did their jobs it would be 12-14/game. Or even more.
Title: Re: The Frans
Post by: illinifan57 on March 06, 2022, 07:38:53 PM
Kofi's 5-11. They can live with that.
We need some balanced scoring. It's Kofi and Plummmer so far tonight.
Wonder how many times a foul could have been called on his 6 misses?

Should say wonder how many times a foul should have been called on his 6 misses?
Title: Re: The Frans
Post by: Judge Judy on March 06, 2022, 07:39:26 PM
Agreed.
Title: Re: The Frans
Post by: illinifan57 on March 06, 2022, 07:46:45 PM
BLOCK OUT!
Title: Re: The Frans
Post by: No one in Mn on March 06, 2022, 07:49:08 PM
We've upped our game
Title: Re: The Frans
Post by: Judge Judy on March 06, 2022, 07:49:34 PM
Kofi getting raped.
Title: Re: The Frans
Post by: Judge Judy on March 06, 2022, 07:50:53 PM
Now we have some intensity! Hopefully we finally woke up!
Title: Re: The Frans
Post by: illinifan57 on March 06, 2022, 07:51:11 PM
Kofi getting raped.
Every game.
Title: Re: The Frans
Post by: The_Truth on March 06, 2022, 07:55:19 PM
Take Kofi out in the middle of a run…

Genius move…
Title: Re: The Frans
Post by: The_Truth on March 06, 2022, 07:56:30 PM
Underwhelm the momentum killer…
Title: Re: The Frans
Post by: illinifan57 on March 06, 2022, 07:57:32 PM
Williams, what are you doing?
Title: Re: The Frans
Post by: Judge Judy on March 06, 2022, 07:59:45 PM
BOX THE FUCK OUT!!!! 😡
Title: Re: The Frans
Post by: illinifan57 on March 06, 2022, 08:00:26 PM
Can we please rebound the ball?

The "in the huddle" with BU saying rebound, rebound needs to be a lot more intense! It's gotta be REBOUND, REBOUND!!
Title: Re: The Frans
Post by: illinifan57 on March 06, 2022, 08:02:18 PM
Thank you RJ!
Title: Re: The Frans
Post by: The_Truth on March 06, 2022, 08:02:31 PM
Okay I believe the Melendez hype…
Title: Re: The Frans
Post by: Judge Judy on March 06, 2022, 08:03:04 PM
Hey Robb, how about RJ Melendez?!
Title: Re: The Frans
Post by: No one in Mn on March 06, 2022, 08:03:57 PM
I'm not sure We've ever boxed out under Underwood. But you'd think they might understand after watching xxxx get open paths to the rim for rebounds.
Title: Re: The Frans
Post by: No one in Mn on March 06, 2022, 08:04:57 PM
Hey Robb, how about RJ Melendez?!
He needs 3-5 more minutes a game
Title: Re: The Frans
Post by: Judge Judy on March 06, 2022, 08:06:29 PM
Melendez taking the charge!
Title: Re: The Frans
Post by: The_Truth on March 06, 2022, 08:09:37 PM
Iowa leaves the door open and what do we do…

2 turnovers…A bad Curbelo shot and a missed Hawkins dunk…

Excellent work guys…
Title: Re: The Frans
Post by: Jrock74 on March 06, 2022, 08:16:31 PM
I can't remember a more frustrating team to watch than this illini team.
Title: Re: The Frans
Post by: No one in Mn on March 06, 2022, 08:18:13 PM
It would be nice to see some shots fall for Trent and walk off the floor as a champion
Title: Re: The Frans
Post by: Judge Judy on March 06, 2022, 08:18:23 PM
It’s like they gotta make everything hard.
Title: Re: The Frans
Post by: Judge Judy on March 06, 2022, 08:23:11 PM
That’s an And 1 for Curbelo!!
Title: Re: The Frans
Post by: No one in Mn on March 06, 2022, 08:24:36 PM
They're playing for a championship.
Relax. We expect too much. Me included.
Title: Re: The Frans
Post by: No one in Mn on March 06, 2022, 08:27:55 PM
Both teams at 44% and 10 turnovers. And xxxx has been playing as well as anybody.
Title: Re: The Frans
Post by: illinifan57 on March 06, 2022, 08:28:09 PM
That’s an And 1 for Curbelo!!
Yep, but not with these refs.
Illini just needs to go helter skelter, press all over the court. The Fran's are getting that "Fran look" on the faces, getting flustered.
Title: Re: The Frans
Post by: The_Truth on March 06, 2022, 08:32:50 PM
2:30 minutes to go…

Let’s not run the clock…

Let Curbelo commit an offensive foul 10 seconds into the clock…

Sit his ass down…
Title: Re: The Frans
Post by: dwc13 on March 06, 2022, 08:34:24 PM
Fouling a 3 point shooter usually isn't a good thing, but at least Kofi didn't allow a potential 4 point play. Murray didn't come close to getting a shot off. If you're going to foul, make the foul count, right?

Murray missing all 3 FTs made it a great foul, lol.
Title: Re: The Frans
Post by: illinifan57 on March 06, 2022, 08:34:46 PM
Atta boy Hawkins, fight for that ball!
Title: Re: The Frans
Post by: No one in Mn on March 06, 2022, 08:38:46 PM
That was on Curbelo. Took too long to run a play
Title: Re: The Frans
Post by: illinifan57 on March 06, 2022, 08:39:02 PM
Get under control Curbelo.

Title: Re: The Frans
Post by: The_Truth on March 06, 2022, 08:40:05 PM
How do you allow Iowa to isolate one on one with a bigger guy vs Curbelo…

Why…

Because we’re Illinois…
Title: Re: The Frans
Post by: The_Truth on March 06, 2022, 08:41:49 PM
Even if we win this game…

So many dumb turnovers, Curbelo BS and stupid substitutions…

Need to clean it up BTT…
Title: Re: The Frans
Post by: The_Truth on March 06, 2022, 08:43:18 PM
Screw you Underwhelm…
Title: Re: The Frans
Post by: Dominic on March 06, 2022, 08:44:34 PM
Iowa has to be point shaving with these free throws lol
Title: Re: The Frans
Post by: The_Truth on March 06, 2022, 08:45:25 PM
Iowa has to be point shaving with these free throws lol

If you would’ve told me the Murray bros would miss 5 of 6 down the stretch I would’ve called BS…
Title: Re: The Frans
Post by: Judge Judy on March 06, 2022, 08:45:29 PM
Keegan Murray just guaranteed he won’t win POTY with those two missed FTs
Title: Re: The Frans
Post by: No one in Mn on March 06, 2022, 08:46:34 PM
Sure. Toss it into anybody but Plummer or Trent
Title: Re: The Frans
Post by: Judge Judy on March 06, 2022, 08:47:02 PM
Sure. Toss it into anybody but Plummer or Trent
How do you not get that to Plummer?!
Title: Re: The Frans
Post by: Daejon Love on March 06, 2022, 08:47:29 PM
Why was DaMonte on the floor?
Title: Re: The Frans
Post by: The_Truth on March 06, 2022, 08:47:56 PM
Good job…

Let’s give it to Damonte…

Can we just finish a damn game…

We had it won…
Title: Re: The Frans
Post by: No one in Mn on March 06, 2022, 08:48:41 PM
Fukkn yes
Title: Re: The Frans
Post by: Dominic on March 06, 2022, 08:48:52 PM
Choke city for Kris Murray.

Goes 1-7 on FTs and misses a wide open 3 that would have won the game at the buzzer.

Silly court storming
Title: Re: The Frans
Post by: illinifan57 on March 06, 2022, 08:49:32 PM
Thank you god!
Title: Re: The Frans
Post by: The_Truth on March 06, 2022, 08:49:34 PM
This might be the most overrated Co Big champs of all time…
Title: Re: The Frans
Post by: Miles Leonard on March 06, 2022, 08:49:41 PM
Tried really hard to give it away. Thankfully we didn't.

Big Ten Champs!

Title: Re: The Frans
Post by: ILLove1997 on March 06, 2022, 08:49:46 PM
 !!!!!!

Big ten Champs 2 years in a row!
Title: Re: The Frans
Post by: dwc13 on March 06, 2022, 08:50:17 PM
There's pandemonium on the floor...at the RAC (Jersey Mike's Arena), lol. Rutgers will be the 4 seed in the upcoming Big Ten Tournament.
Title: Re: The Frans
Post by: ILLove1997 on March 06, 2022, 08:50:21 PM
This might be the most overrated Co Big champs of all time…

Kill yourself pedo
Title: Re: The Frans
Post by: Beach Bum on March 06, 2022, 08:51:22 PM
Wow fuck yeah best game in who knows how long!!!!!
Title: Re: The Frans
Post by: Judge Judy on March 06, 2022, 08:51:30 PM
This is fucking awesome!!! B1G champs baby!!!!
Title: Re: The Frans
Post by: No one in Mn on March 06, 2022, 08:52:59 PM
Get Kofi's Mom on staff for a year, with an option for 2. 😁
Title: Re: The Frans
Post by: Daejon Love on March 06, 2022, 08:55:10 PM
Way more stressful than I was hoping for. Good old school Big Ten game. Nice way to cap off a regular season that didn’t always go smoothly. Now go out and play like the team you can be in the post-season.
Title: Re: The Frans
Post by: Lkdog on March 06, 2022, 08:55:36 PM
Crazy fucking game. Gutsy win.
Title: Re: The Frans
Post by: frankiew on March 06, 2022, 08:56:22 PM
10:30 am start on friday
Title: Re: The Frans
Post by: No one in Mn on March 06, 2022, 08:56:30 PM
Curbelo ends up being the 3rd guy in double figures.
Hawkins a point away from a double double.
Melendez was critical with the 3 from the corner.
Title: Re: The Frans
Post by: dwc13 on March 06, 2022, 08:58:10 PM
Congratulations to the Big Ten (Co) Champs!

Iowa tried to land knockout punches in the 1st half but the Illini hung in there and managed to weather the storm. The 2nd half was hard fought but in the end Illinois made just enough plays to pull out the win. So happy for the team.
Title: Re: The Frans
Post by: murphstahoe on March 06, 2022, 08:59:11 PM
This might be the most overrated Co Big champs of all time…

There will be two co-champs and both be seeded under the 3rd place team
Title: Re: The Frans
Post by: Jrock74 on March 06, 2022, 08:59:31 PM
I'm so happy 😊
Title: Re: The Frans
Post by: Miles Leonard on March 06, 2022, 09:00:48 PM
We get the winner of Indiana/Michigan on Friday. I'm not really dying to see Michigan for a 3rd time.
Title: Re: The Frans
Post by: No one in Mn on March 06, 2022, 09:03:26 PM
 
We get the winner of Indiana/Michigan on Friday. I'm not really dying to see Michigan for a 3rd time.
Howard will be back.  :D
Title: Re: The Frans
Post by: The_Truth on March 06, 2022, 09:04:39 PM
Kill yourself pedo

No offense but you’re celebrating two big titles in a row…

The one last year we didn’t win and got loyola’d…

We shared this one…And it sure didn’t look pretty…
Title: Re: The Frans
Post by: Miles Leonard on March 06, 2022, 09:05:22 PM
Howard will be back.  :D

Oh right. Bring 'em on then!
Title: Re: The Frans
Post by: Judge Judy on March 06, 2022, 09:06:03 PM
Howard will be back.  :D

I hope Underwood slaps that bitch!
Title: Re: The Frans
Post by: Lkdog on March 06, 2022, 09:08:13 PM
We should have Iowa again next Saturday.
Title: Re: The Frans
Post by: The_Truth on March 06, 2022, 09:09:19 PM
We get the winner of Indiana/Michigan on Friday. I'm not really dying to see Michigan for a 3rd time.

I am…

We can beat them…

Michigan,Iowa and Rutgers to get to the final…

Or OSU, Wisconsin,Purdue and MSu…We have the easy path
Title: Re: The Frans
Post by: The_Truth on March 06, 2022, 09:11:39 PM
My guess is Michigan will expend a lot of energy fighting off indiana who needs it for their tourney lives…
Title: Re: The Frans
Post by: Beach Bum on March 06, 2022, 09:13:04 PM
Hawkins just showed he can guard the best F/C this country has to offer. And when we play Iowa again he can do it all over.

Huge game by him, big time props!!!
Title: Re: The Frans
Post by: Miles Leonard on March 06, 2022, 09:13:22 PM
I am…

We can beat them…

Michigan,Iowa and Rutgers to get to the final…

Or OSU, Wisconsin,Purdue and MSu…We have the easy path

Didn't you just bury us like a second ago?
Title: Re: The Frans
Post by: The_Truth on March 06, 2022, 09:13:31 PM
I wonder what Adam Miller is thinking right now…

Oops…
Title: Re: The Frans
Post by: wonky73 on March 06, 2022, 09:14:29 PM
Thankfully, Iowa missed  awide open three

BIG TIME (co) CHAMPS
Title: Re: The Frans
Post by: No one in Mn on March 06, 2022, 09:17:47 PM
Hawkins just showed he can guard the best F/C this country has to offer. And when we play Iowa again he can do it all over.

Huge game by him, big time props!!!
Yep. He picked up only 2 fouls. Keeping Hawkins on the floor, with his height, to mess with Murray was something I didnt expect. Played 37 minutes too. Huge game for him.
Title: Re: The Frans
Post by: spark mandrill on March 06, 2022, 09:17:55 PM
Hang a banner.

Feels fucking great.
Title: Re: The Frans
Post by: The_Truth on March 06, 2022, 09:18:28 PM
Didn't you just bury us like a second ago?

It’s hard not to as we do a lot of dumb things…

The last few minutes of that game was a train wreck and comedy of errors on both ends…

What you saw as an exciting finish, I saw as like a suck out in poker…We got lucky…

Bottom line…We have a hard time finishing games period and the scouting is pretty clear…Key in on Kofi and let ‘em chuck 3s and unless we’re on like the Michigan game we lose most of the time…
Title: Re: The Frans
Post by: Daejon Love on March 06, 2022, 09:22:02 PM
It’s hard not to as we do a lot of dumb things…

The last few minutes of that game was a train wreck and comedy of errors on both ends…

What you saw as an exciting finish, I saw as like a suck out in poker…We got lucky…

Bottom line…We have a hard time finishing games period and the scouting is pretty clear…Key in on Kofi and let ‘em chuck 3s and unless we’re on like the Michigan game we lose most of the time…

Unfortunately, I have to largely agree with this. Was hoping Curbelo would be playing at a high level by now, but he’s not done much to suggest he will be the best guard on the floor 5-6 games in a row during the tourney.

I’ve become more and more convinced we’ll go as far as Plummer’s shooting can take us.
Title: Re: The Frans
Post by: Judge Judy on March 06, 2022, 09:22:37 PM
It’s hard not to as we do a lot of dumb things…

The last few minutes of that game was a train wreck and comedy of errors on both ends…

What you saw as an exciting finish, I saw as like a suck out in poker…We got lucky…

Bottom line…We have a hard time finishing games period and the scouting is pretty clear…Key in on Kofi and let ‘em chuck 3s and unless we’re on like the Michigan game we lose most of the time…

We just won a B1G Championship you dumb motherfucker! Yes we’re gonna hang a banner.

In honor of Jobu, go suck a cock you POS!

😂
Title: Re: The Frans
Post by: No one in Mn on March 06, 2022, 09:22:57 PM
 Its not like we lost today. To Nebraska.  ;D
Title: Re: The Frans
Post by: Daejon Love on March 06, 2022, 09:26:14 PM
The good news is we have a lot of aces up our sleeves. We just have to avoid getting shot by the guy across the table (to use an analogy in mediocre fashion).

If Curbelo, Plummer, or Hawkins were to start going off, would be a huge boost to our chances. We’ve got several candidates that could potentially be that surprise star in the tourney.
Title: Re: The Frans
Post by: Daejon Love on March 06, 2022, 09:27:08 PM
We just won a B1G Championship you dumb motherfucker! Yes we’re gonna hang a banner.

In honor of Jobu, go suck a cock you POS!

😂

“In honor of?” Did he die again?
Title: Re: The Frans
Post by: Judge Judy on March 06, 2022, 09:28:10 PM
“In honor of?” Did he die again?

He just disappeared. Not dead. I think.
Title: Re: The Frans
Post by: Dominic on March 06, 2022, 09:28:39 PM
Hang a banner.

Feels fucking great.

That’s bc your expectations are low
Title: Re: The Frans
Post by: Daejon Love on March 06, 2022, 09:29:02 PM
He just disappeared. Not dead. I think.

Maybe he died for real this time.
Title: Re: The Frans
Post by: No one in Mn on March 06, 2022, 09:30:29 PM
The good news is we have a lot of aces up our sleeves.
(https://i.ibb.co/6Pbq85R/Screenshot-20220306-212842.jpg) (https://ibb.co/1qK4Mxf)
Title: Re: The Frans
Post by: Judge Judy on March 06, 2022, 09:30:35 PM
Maybe he died for real this time.

I’ve come close a couple times this year with this team.
Title: Re: The Frans
Post by: No one in Mn on March 06, 2022, 09:32:37 PM
I’ve come close a couple times this year with this team.
How close were you when Murray put up the 3 from the corner ?
Title: Re: The Frans
Post by: Daejon Love on March 06, 2022, 09:36:04 PM
(https://i.ibb.co/6Pbq85R/Screenshot-20220306-212842.jpg) (https://ibb.co/1qK4Mxf)

“Almost.”
Title: Re: The Frans
Post by: No one in Mn on March 06, 2022, 09:36:21 PM
Bohannon put up a bunch of zeroes. No points. No rebounds. No assists. No steals. No turnovers tho, to go with his 3 fouls.
Title: Re: The Frans
Post by: Daejon Love on March 06, 2022, 09:38:12 PM
(https://i.ibb.co/6Pbq85R/Screenshot-20220306-212842.jpg) (https://ibb.co/1qK4Mxf)

Was that supposed to be a “gotcha?” Everyone knows we “have the pieces.” It’s just a question of whether or not they “do it.”
Title: Re: The Frans
Post by: Lkdog on March 06, 2022, 09:38:36 PM
Curbelo needs to quit shooting so much.
Terrible from 3 and really not that good of a finisher either right now.
4-12. 5 fouls. 4 TOs.
Took second most shots tonight and he is our worst shooter.
I think he is very capable of playing us out of a first or second round NCAA game if he is going bad.
Need to keep him on short leash.


Title: Re: The Frans
Post by: No one in Mn on March 06, 2022, 09:39:55 PM
“Almost.”
Yep. There's always hope.
Title: Re: The Frans
Post by: The_Truth on March 06, 2022, 09:41:17 PM
Unfortunately, I have to largely agree with this. Was hoping Curbelo would be playing at a high level by now, but he’s not done much to suggest he will be the best guard on the floor 5-6 games in a row during the tourney.

I’ve become more and more convinced we’ll go as far as Plummer’s shooting can take us.

The last few sequences should’ve never happened…

2:30 to go and Curbelo runs 10 seconds off the clock up 5, drives to the lane and commits an offensive foul…

45 seconds later still up 5 and Iowa spreads the floor, so only one side of the floor has Curbelo going one on one with an Iowa big…Easy and 1…

Have to have better game management…Never should’ve come down to the last sequence…
Title: Re: The Frans
Post by: Daejon Love on March 06, 2022, 09:42:54 PM
Yep. There's always hope.

Yep. My point was we hear that probably a few times a game, and this team is still pretty erratic. Mostly pretty good, but frustrating they can’t put it all together.
Title: Re: The Frans
Post by: The_Truth on March 06, 2022, 09:50:11 PM
That’s bc your expectations are low

This…👆👆👆
Title: Re: The Frans
Post by: illinifan57 on March 06, 2022, 09:52:34 PM
Bohannon put up a bunch of zeroes. No points. No rebounds. No assists. No steals. No turnovers tho, to go with his 3 fouls.
Think he'll find a way to come back for his 14th season to redeem himself?
Title: Re: The Frans
Post by: No one in Mn on March 06, 2022, 09:52:41 PM
Yep. My point was we hear that probably a few times a game, and this team is still pretty erratic. Mostly pretty good, but frustrating they can’t put it all together.
That's all pr talk from the announcers tho. I assume everyone here knows we're erratic. We beat one of the teams playing with the best in the country today because they were erratic too. Wisco lost to Nebraska.
There seems to be quite a drop off after the best handful of teams. But a good team can beat a Gonzaga or Arizona if they play a sound game.
Almost all of the Big10 teams can beat any of the top 4 Big10 seeds if they play well.
Title: Re: The Frans
Post by: No one in Mn on March 06, 2022, 09:54:11 PM
Think he'll find a way to come back for his 14th season to redeem himself?
I hope he doesn't have a game to play on Sat.
Title: Re: The Frans
Post by: Judge Judy on March 06, 2022, 09:56:54 PM
I hope he gets punched in the face again!
Title: Re: The Frans
Post by: orangekrush117 on March 06, 2022, 10:03:43 PM
Lessgoooooo! B1G Champs baby!
Title: Re: The Frans
Post by: Custard on March 06, 2022, 11:09:58 PM
Damn. I still can’t even believe today happened. That’s all.
Title: Re: The Frans
Post by: Custard on March 06, 2022, 11:16:46 PM
I went to ESPN MBB page and nothing to be found about this that I could see.

I want Trent Frazier on staff when he’s done playing for money. Fucking legend.
Title: Re: The Frans
Post by: ILLove1997 on March 06, 2022, 11:34:59 PM
https://twitter.com/JWerner247/status/1500679179666341889

LOL!
Title: Re: The Frans
Post by: Custard on March 07, 2022, 12:03:43 AM
I thought that last three by Murray II was wide open. I watched that sequence about 27 times now and DMW totally altered that shot as he flew by. Murray changed his trajectory at the last instant. 
Title: Re: The Frans
Post by: Lkdog on March 07, 2022, 12:17:13 AM
I thought that last three by Murray II was wide open. I watched that sequence about 27 times now and DMW totally altered that shot as he flew by. Murray changed his trajectory at the last instant.

I agree. It looked more open live. I played it in slow motion and he did a great job of recovering to make it tougher. It still almost went in.
Title: Re: The Frans
Post by: illinicalvin on March 07, 2022, 12:51:24 AM
I went to ESPN MBB page and nothing to be found about this that I could see.

I want Trent Frazier on staff when he’s done playing for money. Fucking legend.
He's such a gamer he went 1-9/0-5 and still had a pretty good game making a double digit scorer a total nonfactor in a game won by 2.
Title: Re: The Frans
Post by: frankiew on March 07, 2022, 07:00:02 AM
Alan Griffin@alangriffin_LETS GOO🔸🔸 CHAMPS ‼️‼️‼️ #ILL
Title: Re: The Frans
Post by: Chickengeorge on March 07, 2022, 07:24:01 AM
Bohannon put up a bunch of zeroes. No points. No rebounds. No assists. No steals. No turnovers tho, to go with his 3 fouls.

And Connor, in his 24 minutes put up practically nothing as well. 
Title: Re: The Frans
Post by: No one in Mn on March 07, 2022, 07:27:00 AM
And Connor, in his 24 minutes put up practically nothing as well. 
I'm glad it was Patrick, not Connor, sitting on the bench if a McCaffery was going to be out.
Title: Re: The Frans
Post by: Chickengeorge on March 07, 2022, 07:33:39 AM
I'm glad it was Patrick, not Connor, sitting on the bench if a McCaffery was going to be out.

Yep.  Patrick actually doesn't act like a bitch, either. 
Title: Re: The Frans
Post by: spark mandrill on March 07, 2022, 08:45:47 AM
Underachiever at it again.
Title: Re: The Frans
Post by: spark mandrill on March 07, 2022, 08:47:37 AM
That’s bc your expectations are low

It’s because I’m not a moron.
Title: Re: The Frans
Post by: Jobu on March 07, 2022, 09:06:29 AM
Maybe he died for real this time.

Nope.  Sorry to disappoint you.
Title: Re: The Frans
Post by: ILLove1997 on March 07, 2022, 11:36:39 AM
He's such a gamer he went 1-9/0-5 and still had a pretty good game making a double digit scorer a total nonfactor in a game won by 2.

he also grabbed the game winning rebound :)
Title: Re: The Frans
Post by: ILLove1997 on March 07, 2022, 11:37:51 AM
Underachiever at it again.

PaMan seething that we get to hang a banner for something so useless as a B1G championship
Title: Re: The Frans
Post by: Judge Judy on March 07, 2022, 11:56:32 AM
PaMan seething that we get to hang a banner for something so useless as a B1G championship

Fuck that loser!
Title: Re: The Frans
Post by: ThePAMan on March 07, 2022, 12:17:47 PM
PaMan seething that we get to hang a banner for something so useless as a B1G championship

Yes, seething. Big boy teams play for the big tourney banner.
Title: Re: The Frans
Post by: spark mandrill on March 07, 2022, 12:36:53 PM
Yes, seething. Big boy teams play for the big tourney banner.

You’d have to be a miserable son of a bitch to still be grumbling after that.

I’m sure you get a lot of props here from Truth and the dude who’s so pathetic he’s emulating Truth for that kind of take though.
Title: Re: The Frans
Post by: Judge Judy on March 07, 2022, 01:13:01 PM
You’d have to be a miserable son of a bitch to still be grumbling after that.

I’m sure you get a lot of props here from Truth and the dude who’s so pathetic he’s emulating Truth for that kind of take though.

Yeah, fuck that guy too!
Title: Re: The Frans
Post by: illiniray on March 07, 2022, 01:14:31 PM
It was a day of who wanted it less. Thanks Wisconsin. Thanks Iowa.
Title: Re: The Frans
Post by: Lkdog on March 07, 2022, 01:19:56 PM
Iowa crumbling at the FT line (10-22) was just plain bizarre.
But nothing is easy this time of year. We deserved the win and the BT title.



Title: Re: The Frans
Post by: Judge Judy on March 07, 2022, 01:25:39 PM
Anybody who is complaining right now after we won the B1G championship can fuck off actually.

I get concerns and maybe being scared of an early exit from the NCAA tourney, but what Underwood has done this quickly is actually quite remarkable. Just a S16 this year and I’m happy. It’s just one more step of the program building. He’s progressing each year and that can’t be discounted. Even last year was another positive step exiting in the 2nd round. The goal is to get a chance every year to have success in the tourney and he’s doing that.
Title: Re: The Frans
Post by: Beach Bum on March 07, 2022, 02:41:52 PM
Anybody who is complaining right now after we won the B1G championship can fuck off actually.

I get concerns and maybe being scared of an early exit from the NCAA tourney, but what Underwood has done this quickly is actually quite remarkable. Just a S16 this year and I’m happy. It’s just one more step of the program building. He’s progressing each year and that can’t be discounted. Even last year was another positive step exiting in the 2nd round. The goal is to get a chance every year to have success in the tourney and he’s doing that.

Are people besides Truth and maybe tempo actually complaining?  God I hope not.
Title: Re: The Frans
Post by: Custard on March 07, 2022, 02:50:11 PM
I had this crazy dream last night where Nebraska went into Madison and beat the Badgers and then we beat red hot Iowa at home in front of a raucous crowd (and several stud recruits) to win a B1G championship for the first time in 17 years.
Title: Re: The Frans
Post by: ILLove1997 on March 07, 2022, 02:56:03 PM
I had this crazy dream last night where Nebraska went into Madison and beat the Badgers and then we beat red hot Iowa at home in front of a raucous crowd (and several stud recruits) to win a B1G championship for the first time in 17 years.

did you wake up with a boner?

no homo, just wondering
Title: Re: The Frans
Post by: Custard on March 07, 2022, 04:25:26 PM
Always
Title: Re: The Frans
Post by: Custard on March 07, 2022, 06:40:11 PM
My nephew got some good pics last night.

(https://i.ibb.co/7pzXxbY/0-B70112-F-39-DB-40-CD-90-AE-17-AB6-AEFE6-FB.jpg) (https://ibb.co/s1P2ptm)
(https://i.ibb.co/Rg1CD0B/3-E3435-DF-D6-EA-442-E-AAFD-E14-EC86-EEE2-F.jpg) (https://ibb.co/hgkKmWZ)
(https://i.ibb.co/W2z44XN/2-A5793-CD-405-B-4147-BD10-3-A4-C959-E9146.jpg) (https://ibb.co/S3m44gD)
(https://i.ibb.co/MBq9YJk/402-BD5-F1-73-BC-4-E5-D-AA99-7-ECAA0-E178-E4.jpg) (https://ibb.co/nPhRHKM)
Title: Re: The Frans
Post by: spark mandrill on March 07, 2022, 06:49:42 PM
Awesome, bet he had a blast.

Does he know yet that our coach is an underachiever?
Title: Re: The Frans
Post by: Dominic on March 07, 2022, 07:04:57 PM
Anybody who is complaining right now after we won the B1G championship can fuck off actually.

I get concerns and maybe being scared of an early exit from the NCAA tourney, but what Underwood has done this quickly is actually quite remarkable. Just a S16 this year and I’m happy. It’s just one more step of the program building. He’s progressing each year and that can’t be discounted. Even last year was another positive step exiting in the 2nd round. The goal is to get a chance every year to have success in the tourney and he’s doing that.

Quickly?  This is his 5th year and he will stink next year.

Underwood is at best Frank Martin at South Carolina
Title: Re: The Frans
Post by: Custard on March 07, 2022, 07:37:58 PM
Awesome, bet he had a blast.

Does he know yet that our coach is an underachiever?

Yeah he reads the board here so he really wasn’t even excited about the game or the championship or meeting the players
Title: Re: The Frans
Post by: Lkdog on March 07, 2022, 07:45:47 PM
Quickly?  This is his 5th year and he will stink next year.

Underwood is at best Frank Martin at South Carolina

You are one dumbass mthrfucker. Martin has an EE and FF.
Title: Re: The Frans
Post by: Judge Judy on March 07, 2022, 07:59:48 PM
Quickly?  This is his 5th year and he will stink next year.

Underwood is at best Frank Martin at South Carolina

Well, you’re definitely one ignorant motherfucker! No debating that, huh
Title: Re: The Frans
Post by: Dominic on March 07, 2022, 08:58:33 PM
You are one dumbass mthrfucker. Martin has an EE and FF.

Look at Frank’s 10 years at South Carolina.  I doubt many Illini fans would take that. And Underwood obviously hasn’t had even that success in the tourney.
Title: Re: The Frans
Post by: Custard on March 07, 2022, 10:30:40 PM
Quickly?  This is his 5th year and he will stink next year.

Underwood is at best Frank Martin at South Carolina

Year three we were a game back of first in B1G. Red hot going into the cancelled tourney. 

We actually won it last year if using normal metrics.

Shared it this year and have tie breaker. 

We add four more top 100 players for next season. Will probably get at least one difference maker in the portal. Kofi probably won’t be back, but you never know.

What a failure.

Oh wait, you’re the guy who said Curbelo would transfer if he didn’t play by the Arizona game.
Title: Re: The Frans
Post by: Dominic on March 08, 2022, 02:32:53 AM
Year three we were a game back of first in B1G. Red hot going into the cancelled tourney. 

We actually won it last year if using normal metrics.

Shared it this year and have tie breaker. 

We add four more top 100 players for next season. Will probably get at least one difference maker in the portal. Kofi probably won’t be back, but you never know.

What a failure.

Oh wait, you’re the guy who said Curbelo would transfer if he didn’t play by the Arizona game.

Facts are that Underwood lost 20+ games a year without Kofi.

This year, the team should probably be better than what it is considering you have Kofi surrounded by a bunch of experienced guards.

Next year will be a completely new team and honestly without Kofi, Underwood has shown himself to be a very mediocre high D1 coach. He was mediocre in his 1 year at Oklahoma State, awful his first 2 years at Illinois, then he got Kofi and things changed. 

In fact, to draw an Illini football parallel, Underwood may end up being similar to Ron Turner. And Kofi= Kittner.  Take away the stud QB or stud Center, and there’s really nothing that has been built
Title: Re: The Frans
Post by: OskeeWowWoe on March 08, 2022, 04:46:29 AM
My nephew got some good pics last night.

(https://i.ibb.co/7pzXxbY/0-B70112-F-39-DB-40-CD-90-AE-17-AB6-AEFE6-FB.jpg) (https://ibb.co/s1P2ptm)
(https://i.ibb.co/Rg1CD0B/3-E3435-DF-D6-EA-442-E-AAFD-E14-EC86-EEE2-F.jpg) (https://ibb.co/hgkKmWZ)
(https://i.ibb.co/W2z44XN/2-A5793-CD-405-B-4147-BD10-3-A4-C959-E9146.jpg) (https://ibb.co/S3m44gD)
(https://i.ibb.co/MBq9YJk/402-BD5-F1-73-BC-4-E5-D-AA99-7-ECAA0-E178-E4.jpg) (https://ibb.co/nPhRHKM)

That is awesome.
Title: Re: The Frans
Post by: ILLINICHIEF on March 08, 2022, 08:00:36 AM
Iowa crumbling at the FT line (10-22) was just plain bizarre.
But nothing is easy this time of year. We deserved the win and the BT title.

Very bizarre, at least they can't say they got homered by the refs... ;D
Title: Re: The Frans
Post by: Daejon Love on March 08, 2022, 08:21:14 AM
Are people besides Truth and maybe tempo actually complaining?  God I hope not.

The only thing I’ve complained about all season is the lack of structure and creativity in our half-court offense.
Title: Re: The Frans
Post by: No one in Mn on March 08, 2022, 08:55:14 AM
Other than offense is half of the game, it looks like KenPom has us #20 in offensive efficiency and #29 in defensive efficiency.
Our offensive efficiency could possibly be higher if Trent, for one, didn't have to work as hard as he does on defense.
Title: Re: The Frans
Post by: Daejon Love on March 08, 2022, 09:10:48 AM
Other than offense is half of the game, it looks like KenPom has us #20 in offensive efficiency and #29 in defensive efficiency.
Our offensive efficiency could possibly be higher if Trent, for one, didn't have to work as hard as he does on defense.

Guessing Kofi and having several good shooters makes it look better than it is.
Title: Re: The Frans
Post by: spark mandrill on March 08, 2022, 09:41:33 AM
Yeah he reads the board here so he really wasn’t even excited about the game or the championship or meeting the players

Sounds about right - has anybody called him a fag or implied you like to fuck him yet?
Title: Re: The Frans
Post by: spark mandrill on March 08, 2022, 09:43:03 AM
Guessing Kofi and having several good shooters makes it look better than it is.

It's not that we have a good offense, it's just that our players score a lot.
Title: Re: The Frans
Post by: spark mandrill on March 08, 2022, 09:46:49 AM
Facts are that Underwood lost 20+ games a year without Kofi.

This year, the team should probably be better than what it is considering you have Kofi surrounded by a bunch of experienced guards.

Next year will be a completely new team and honestly without Kofi, Underwood has shown himself to be a very mediocre high D1 coach. He was mediocre in his 1 year at Oklahoma State, awful his first 2 years at Illinois, then he got Kofi and things changed. 

In fact, to draw an Illini football parallel, Underwood may end up being similar to Ron Turner. And Kofi= Kittner.  Take away the stud QB or stud Center, and there’s really nothing that has been built

Yes, he took over an empty cupboard and immediately refilled it, completely turning our program around in 3 years.
Title: Re: The Frans
Post by: No one in Mn on March 08, 2022, 10:08:46 AM
Conference games only.
3rd in points behind xxxx and PU. Wisco is 9th.
2nd in margin behind xxxx.
5th in defense. Wisco is 4th. PU is 8th and xxxx is 11th.
Put the 2 together and we have the #1 seed.
Title: Re: The Frans
Post by: Lkdog on March 08, 2022, 10:14:51 AM
Guessing Kofi and having several good shooters makes it look better than it is.

We are scoring just fine. This isn't Hoosiers where Jimmy Chitwood runs the picket fence anymore.

Our defense is suspect, due to size matchups. If Hawkins and Melendez can show in tourneys that will help.
Kofi actually looked better in his ball screen coverage against Iowa.

We will go as far as the threeball and defense takes us............... Like most teams.

Title: Re: The Frans
Post by: Daejon Love on March 08, 2022, 10:27:30 AM
Yes, we generally score fine. My worry is that when we get into a tough elimination game, the 3s might not be falling, or Kofi might be neutralized or on the bench. We just don’t seem to manufacture offense through sets very well. We don’t space or distribute the ball real well. We’re very susceptible off shooting nights or less than ideal matchups.

Yes, our defense is also vulnerable due to guard size. Hawkins playing well at the right time helps. I just think we’re a bit too predictable on offense. If Curbelo can dial up his A game for a handful of games in a row, that would help tremendously.
Title: Re: The Frans
Post by: OskeeWowWoe on March 08, 2022, 10:59:43 AM
We are scoring just fine. This isn't Hoosiers where Jimmy Chitwood runs the picket fence anymore.

Our defense is suspect, due to size matchups. If Hawkins and Melendez can show in tourneys that will help.
Kofi actually looked better in his ball screen coverage against Iowa.

We will go as far as the threeball and defense takes us............... Like most teams.
I thought that was Kofi's best game defensively.  Amazing how he has improved.
Title: Re: The Frans
Post by: Custard on March 08, 2022, 11:00:09 AM
Very bizarre, at least they can't say they got homered by the refs... ;D

Per usual 5 of top 6-7 posts on the Hawkeye report were specifically about officiating.
Title: Re: The Frans
Post by: Custard on March 08, 2022, 11:09:11 AM
Facts are that Underwood lost 20+ games a year without Kofi.

This year, the team should probably be better than what it is considering you have Kofi surrounded by a bunch of experienced guards.

Next year will be a completely new team and honestly without Kofi, Underwood has shown himself to be a very mediocre high D1 coach. He was mediocre in his 1 year at Oklahoma State, awful his first 2 years at Illinois, then he got Kofi and things changed. 

In fact, to draw an Illini football parallel, Underwood may end up being similar to Ron Turner. And Kofi= Kittner.  Take away the stud QB or stud Center, and there’s really nothing that has been built

The first two years where he purposely tore a perpetually mediocre program down to the studs to rebuild it. Midway through the second year they were starting to show the potential that would really blossom in his third year.

Yeah if you take super star players off of teams they usually aren’t as good. 🥴Brilliant analysis.
Title: Re: The Frans
Post by: Chickengeorge on March 08, 2022, 11:10:07 AM
Per usual 5 of top 6-7 posts on the Hawkeye report were specifically about officiating.

Mostly bitching about Kofi's moving screens. 
Title: Re: The Frans
Post by: ThePAMan on March 08, 2022, 11:22:16 AM
This thread is busting me up. Well done, men.
Title: Re: The Frans
Post by: Daejon Love on March 08, 2022, 11:24:19 AM
The first two years where he purposely tore a perpetually mediocre program down to the studs to rebuild it.

He’s done a great job here, but this is laying it on thick.
Title: Re: The Frans
Post by: Lkdog on March 08, 2022, 11:24:47 AM
This thread is busting me up. Well done, men.

Help us understand what part is entertaining to you?
Title: Re: The Frans
Post by: Daejon Love on March 08, 2022, 11:26:01 AM
Help us understand what part is entertaining to you?

Yeah, I was kind of wondering too. Don’t feel like there’s anything special going on here.
Title: Re: The Frans
Post by: Lkdog on March 08, 2022, 11:35:57 AM
He’s done a great job here, but this is laying it on thick.

I think like a lot of things it is somewhere in the middle of the extremes that are espoused here.

What cannot be disputed is we are BT co champs this year, were BTT champs last year, and finished second in BT conference the previous two years.
Now some may argue we are the tallest midget in a perennially disappointing conference come NCAA time, but we have the best record in BT over the last three years.
That is an excellent accomplishment.

We have a competitive sustaining program again and we are all excited March means something again- and I am pretty hopeful we get to the second weekend this time for the first time since 2005.






Title: Re: The Frans
Post by: Daejon Love on March 08, 2022, 12:26:12 PM
I think like a lot of things it is somewhere in the middle of the extremes that are espoused here.

What cannot be disputed is we are BT co champs this year, were BTT champs last year, and finished second in BT conference the previous two years.
Now some may argue we are the tallest midget in a perennially disappointing conference come NCAA time, but we have the best record in BT over the last three years.
That is an excellent accomplishment.

We have a competitive sustaining program again and we are all excited March means something again- and I am pretty hopeful we get to the second weekend this time for the first time since 2005.

Don’t disagree, just think the “ripping it down to the studs” comment is a bit gratuitous.
Title: Re: The Frans
Post by: Daejon Love on March 08, 2022, 12:27:37 PM
“Successfully overhauled the program” would have been ample and fair.
Title: Re: The Frans
Post by: ILLove1997 on March 08, 2022, 12:29:28 PM
Don’t disagree, just think the “ripping it down to the studs” comment is a bit gratuitous.

I mean he kind of did with all the de-commits, transfers, recruiting and so on and so forth, in the first two years.  You remember all that?  Cuonzo supposedly "owning" us?   I know he mentioned numerous times that he had to completely 180 turn some players attitudes around and rebuild the entire culture, those that didn't want to do that were shown the door and a lot of fans bitched and moaned about it at the time.
Title: Re: The Frans
Post by: ILLINICHIEF on March 08, 2022, 12:35:20 PM
I mean he kind of did with all the de-commits, transfers, recruiting and so on and so forth, in the first two years.  You remember all that?  Cuonzo supposedly "owning" us?   I know he mentioned numerous times that he had to completely 180 turn some players attitudes around and rebuild the entire culture, those that didn't want to do that were shown the door and a lot of fans bitched and moaned about it at the time.

Trent Frazier a facilitator in more ways than one....without Trent and to some degree DaMonte, this ship would never have turned around imo.
Title: Re: The Frans
Post by: Daejon Love on March 08, 2022, 12:49:35 PM
I mean he kind of did with all the de-commits, transfers, recruiting and so on and so forth, in the first two years.  You remember all that?  Cuonzo supposedly "owning" us?   I know he mentioned numerous times that he had to completely 180 turn some players attitudes around and rebuild the entire culture, those that didn't want to do that were shown the door and a lot of fans bitched and moaned about it at the time.

I think he probably did what most coaches do when they inherit then turn around a struggling program.
Title: Re: The Frans
Post by: ILLove1997 on March 08, 2022, 12:57:19 PM
I think he probably did what most coaches do when they inherit then turn around a struggling program.

rip it down to the studs?
Title: Re: The Frans
Post by: Daejon Love on March 08, 2022, 01:16:49 PM
rip it down to the studs?

Sure, lol.
Title: Re: The Frans
Post by: ILLove1997 on March 08, 2022, 01:52:36 PM
Sure, lol.

 ;D
Title: Re: The Frans
Post by: No one in Mn on March 08, 2022, 01:59:57 PM
The first two years where he purposely tore a perpetually mediocre program down to the studs .....
Trent and DaMonte ?
Title: Re: The Frans
Post by: Chickengeorge on March 08, 2022, 02:31:00 PM
Trent and DaMonte ?

Those were the studs.
Title: Re: The Frans
Post by: Daejon Love on March 08, 2022, 02:46:13 PM
Making wholesale changes seems like an obvious starting point for any coach taking over a struggling program, but I guess “ripped it down to the studs” sounds more heroic.
Title: Re: The Frans
Post by: spark mandrill on March 08, 2022, 02:51:28 PM
They mean the same thing, not even I can imagine arguing about it.
Title: Re: The Frans
Post by: ridingthegrange on March 08, 2022, 02:53:18 PM
rip it down to the studs?


 golds! golds! golds! golds! golds!
Title: Re: The Frans
Post by: Daejon Love on March 08, 2022, 02:54:15 PM
They mean the same thing, not even I can imagine arguing about it.

You’re arguing over Davis vs Cockburn, which is somewhat subjective. So I can maybe see you arguing it.

Point was, every new coach is going to make changes and install his own culture in a struggling program. It wasn’t an extra Herculean task taken on by Underwood. It’s something literally every coach would do.
Title: Re: The Frans
Post by: spark mandrill on March 08, 2022, 02:55:19 PM
You’re arguing over Davis vs Cockburn, which is somewhat subjective. So I can maybe see you arguing it.

Point was, every new coach is going to make changes and install his own culture in a struggling program. It wasn’t an extra Herculean task taken on by Underwood. It’s something literally every coach would do.

Davis vs. Cockburn isn't even a real debate.

"Ripped it down to the studs" and "Made wholesale changes" mean exactly the same thing.

Yes, almost every coach taking over for a failed coach attempts a rebuild.  Not many of them succeed to the degree that Underwood has.
Title: Re: The Frans
Post by: Daejon Love on March 08, 2022, 03:00:22 PM
Davis vs. Cockburn isn't even a real debate.

People who have opinions that count more than yours and mine disagree


"Ripped it down to the studs" and "Made wholesale changes" mean exactly the same thing.

Again, it’s something literally every other incoming coach would have done. Just sounds more badass
Title: Re: The Frans
Post by: Daejon Love on March 08, 2022, 03:01:55 PM

Yes, almost every coach taking over for a failed coach attempts a rebuild.  Not many of them succeed to the degree that Underwood has.

That was never the point of contention.
Title: Re: The Frans
Post by: spark mandrill on March 08, 2022, 03:02:48 PM
No, the point of contention was that he said "ripped it down to the studs" instead of "made wholesale changes", hahaha
Title: Re: The Frans
Post by: Daejon Love on March 08, 2022, 03:04:27 PM
No, the point of contention was that he said "ripped it down to the studs" instead of "made wholesale changes", hahaha

My point was Custard was laying it on pretty thick to flatter Underwood and make him sound more heroic. It wasn’t necessary.
Title: Re: The Frans
Post by: spark mandrill on March 08, 2022, 03:05:02 PM
It's among the weirdest things I've ever seen someone argue about.
Title: Re: The Frans
Post by: Daejon Love on March 08, 2022, 03:06:05 PM
It's among the weirdest things I've ever seen someone argue about.

Kewl.
Title: Re: The Frans
Post by: spark mandrill on March 08, 2022, 03:07:26 PM
Kewl.

Layin' it on a little thick man.

I'd have said something more like, "Okay".
Title: Re: The Frans
Post by: Judge Judy on March 08, 2022, 03:08:31 PM
😂🤣
Title: Re: The Frans
Post by: Daejon Love on March 08, 2022, 03:08:40 PM
Layin' it on a little thick man.

I'd have said something more like, "Okay".

OK
Title: Re: The Frans
Post by: Dominic on March 08, 2022, 03:33:47 PM
Davis vs. Cockburn isn't even a real debate.

"Ripped it down to the studs" and "Made wholesale changes" mean exactly the same thing.

Yes, almost every coach taking over for a failed coach attempts a rebuild.  Not many of them succeed to the degree that Underwood has.

Lol sparky actually called Groce a failed coach, yet was supporting him in year 5 of said failure.

And many coaches have won more than 1 NCAA tourney game in 5 years while not managing to have multiple 20 loss seasons in the process
Title: Re: The Frans
Post by: Daejon Love on March 08, 2022, 04:03:47 PM
Can confirm that Underwood did indeed “rip it down to the studs” with pictures I found of his first couple of days at Ubben.

(https://i.postimg.cc/BZNNNHPM/A937-D155-CA15-4377-87-F1-84449-E3-E4731.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/z3bnGLjg)
Title: Re: The Frans
Post by: Daejon Love on March 08, 2022, 04:04:42 PM
(https://i.postimg.cc/nhx4JLmC/48-AB7733-155-B-4436-94-A2-41-C37-AF7-EC38.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/9rxRPCJh)
Title: Re: The Frans
Post by: spark mandrill on March 08, 2022, 04:05:32 PM
wut
Title: Re: The Frans
Post by: Judge Judy on March 08, 2022, 04:10:04 PM
Oh boy…🤦🏻‍♂️
Title: Re: The Frans
Post by: Chickengeorge on March 08, 2022, 04:11:44 PM
stupid
Title: Re: The Frans
Post by: Daejon Love on March 08, 2022, 04:17:25 PM
You guys are humorless. Bet if someone posted a “3 to 5 minutes” joke you guys would think it was a real knee slapper.
Title: Re: The Frans
Post by: Custard on March 08, 2022, 04:23:47 PM
I lifted the “tore it down to the studs” line from the announcers during the game Sunday night.

I don’t think there’s any doubt underwood’s scheme and aggressive personnel purging cost us games early on.
Title: Re: The Frans
Post by: spark mandrill on March 08, 2022, 04:24:36 PM
You guys are humorless. Bet if someone posted a “3 to 5 minutes” joke you guys would think it was a real knee slapper.

If not laughing at those means I’m humorless I’ll wear it.
Title: Re: The Frans
Post by: ThePAMan on March 08, 2022, 04:24:55 PM
You guys are humorless. Bet if someone posted a “3 to 5 minutes” joke you guys would think it was a real knee slapper.

I laughed. Good job, Tempo.
Title: Re: The Frans
Post by: Daejon Love on March 08, 2022, 04:40:06 PM
I lifted the “tore it down to the studs” line from the announcers during the game Sunday night.

I don’t think there’s any doubt underwood’s scheme and aggressive personnel purging cost us games early on.

He also tore his offensive and defensive philosophies down from the studs after he realized they didn’t work.
Title: Re: The Frans
Post by: Daejon Love on March 08, 2022, 04:40:54 PM
If not laughing at those means I’m humorless I’ll wear it.

They are objectively funny.
Title: Re: The Frans
Post by: ILLove1997 on March 08, 2022, 04:42:11 PM
Can confirm that Underwood did indeed “rip it down to the studs” with pictures I found of his first couple of days at Ubben.

(https://i.postimg.cc/BZNNNHPM/A937-D155-CA15-4377-87-F1-84449-E3-E4731.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/z3bnGLjg)

LMAO!
Title: Re: The Frans
Post by: Judge Judy on March 08, 2022, 04:43:40 PM
He also tore his offensive and defensive philosophies down from the studs after he realized they didn’t work.

It seems like you’re making this a criticism 🤔 or some sort of “gotcha” moment. I’m confused the purpose.
Title: Re: The Frans
Post by: Daejon Love on March 08, 2022, 04:45:21 PM
It seems like you’re making this a criticism 🤔 or some sort of “gotcha” moment. I’m confused the purpose.

I have allergic reactions to hyperbolic praise.
Title: Re: The Frans
Post by: Judge Judy on March 08, 2022, 04:47:10 PM
I have allergic reactions to hyperbolic praise.

Is it deadly?! 😜 😂
Title: Re: The Frans
Post by: Daejon Love on March 08, 2022, 04:52:29 PM
Is it deadly?! 😜 😂

No, just causes mild bitter beer face and slight annoyance.
Title: Re: The Frans
Post by: Lkdog on March 08, 2022, 04:57:51 PM
Well FWIW, I had a close friend who has had collegiate AA's, and guys in the NBA, and is an assistant college coach assess Underwood's defensive scheme when he arrived.
I asked him if it would work in the BT at this level and he said no way.

It was same D he had used at SFA with success, and OKST with not very much success where they were 155th in country.
To his credit he changed it and he had what was arguably his best team (IMO) and best coaching job with the Feliz group.

Dunno about the tearing down to the studs metaphor, but we have a program that looks like it is sustainable at a competitive level now and he is figuring things out and seems to have a decent staff.
We need to take the next step and get to a S16 this year.

If we get upset in first weekend that will be a disappointment.




Title: Re: The Frans
Post by: Daejon Love on March 08, 2022, 05:01:43 PM
Well FWIW, I had a close friend who has had collegiate AA's, and guys in the NBA, and is an assistant college coach assess Underwood's defensive scheme when he arrived.
I asked him if it would work in the BT at this level and he said no way.

It was same D he had used at SFA with success, and OKST with not very much success where they were 155th in country.
To his credit he changed it and he had what was arguably his best team (IMO) and best coaching job with the Feliz group.

Dunno about the tearing down to the studs metaphor, but we have a program that looks like it is sustainable at a competitive level now and he is figuring things out and seems to have a decent staff.
We need to take the next step and get to a S16 this year.

If we get upset in first weekend that will be a disappointment.

Fair enough, but what impresses you about Underwood more? His pecs? Or his abs?

(https://i.postimg.cc/8zmgH6mL/CA54372-B-7-F90-4488-9-BFC-2-DC7-BB3165-F1.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/ZWnQY0gq)
Title: Re: The Frans
Post by: Judge Judy on March 08, 2022, 05:05:21 PM
Fair enough, but what impresses you about Underwood more? His pecs? Or his abs?

(https://i.postimg.cc/8zmgH6mL/CA54372-B-7-F90-4488-9-BFC-2-DC7-BB3165-F1.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/ZWnQY0gq)

I think for everybody it’s the BIG dick, amirite?!
Title: Re: The Frans
Post by: Daejon Love on March 08, 2022, 05:10:53 PM
I think for everybody it’s the BIG dick, amirite?!

Incredible oversight on my part. You are 100% correct.
Title: Re: The Frans
Post by: Daejon Love on March 08, 2022, 05:11:25 PM
Not really seeing it in that pic, though…
Title: Re: The Frans
Post by: Dominic on March 08, 2022, 06:50:45 PM
Well FWIW, I had a close friend who has had collegiate AA's, and guys in the NBA, and is an assistant college coach assess Underwood's defensive scheme when he arrived.
I asked him if it would work in the BT at this level and he said no way.

It was same D he had used at SFA with success, and OKST with not very much success where they were 155th in country.
To his credit he changed it and he had what was arguably his best team (IMO) and best coaching job with the Feliz group.

Dunno about the tearing down to the studs metaphor, but we have a program that looks like it is sustainable at a competitive level now and he is figuring things out and seems to have a decent staff.
We need to take the next step and get to a S16 this year.

If we get upset in first weekend that will be a disappointment.

Yeah you can argue it’s sustainable if you find another Kofi.

Title: Re: The Frans
Post by: spark mandrill on March 09, 2022, 08:55:33 AM
Seems a near 100% certainty that when Kofi committed here, Truth was adamant that he would never be good at this level doesn't it?