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General Category => The Deuce => Spark vs Tempo => Topic started by: Reacher on November 08, 2021, 07:39:19 PM
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Bears Bearsing it up pretty good already 6 minutes in.
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Quinn is 10x the player he was last year.
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Fields might be the unluckiest QB in the league.
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Fields might be the unluckiest QB in the league.
He’s got Pace for a GM and Nagy for a HC, so yeah…
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Only the Bears can get to the opponents 25 yard line and then end up punting
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Jimmy Graham lives.
Too bad he can't catch anymore.
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Terrible play calling. Even the announcers said they wouldn’t call those plays. Smh
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Nagy's plan of attack for the 2nd half: Respect the ball.
Genius!
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Wtf kind of call was that? He didn't even touch him.
And Fields took a shot late. No flag.
Refs totally fucked the Bears out of a TD.
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Quick score.
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Jakeem Grant. Another genius pick up by Pace.
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Anybody see the commercial featuring Alex Smith? Damn, his leg is fucked up.
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Anyone who can watch this bear team is a gluten for punishment !
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Steeler punt returner returns the favor. 3 pt game just like that
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Steeler punt returner returns the favor. 3 pt game just like that
Yes, good game now. We are officially gluten-free of punishment.
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Bullshit call there.
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Wtf call was that on Marsh?!?! That’s some fucking bullshit!
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Wtf call was that on Marsh?!?! That’s some fucking bullshit!
He didn't say a word to anyone. I suppose simply giving long looks to the opposing players is forbidden now.
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Beautiful ball from Fields to A-Rob.
TD Mooney!
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Here comes the rise of Fields. He’s gonna be one helluva QB for the Bears for a long time!
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He’s made some amazing throws.
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That was so predictable
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Worse night? Matt Nagy or Steve Levy? “Baltimore may have recovered the fumble!” “It hits the crossbar, maybe one more foot or two.” Ummm no, it was 6 yards short at least.
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You have to give Fields another shot to win the game. He earned that right. Sorry to say but Santos is not Justin Tucker. I don't know what the hell Levy was looking at but that came nowhere close to the crossbar. Thank god because I couldn't handle another game losing doink.
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I’m thrilled he missed it. Hard to see Nagy surviving the year. Pace has to go, too. Let’s get some competent stewardship in here and do right by Justin Fields.
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Fields had 228 yards passing. In the 2nd half…
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I'll take the draft position. Not going anywhere this year but Fields looks impressive. Oh, and fuck the Steelers!
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I’m thrilled he missed it. Hard to see Nagy surviving the year. Pace has to go, too. Let’s get some competent stewardship in here and do right by Justin Fields.
Yep. Fields shined and one loss closer to the end of Nagy and Pace...or so we hope
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This is the bye week. Tomorrow the perfect time to fire Nagy if they are going to do it mid-season. Please 🙏
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This is the bye week. Tomorrow the perfect time to fire Nagy if they are going to do it mid-season. Please 🙏
Total shock if they did. The McCaskeys don't fire anyone midseason. Just not their style.
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I know, but it would be a great time for a first! I don’t expect it though.
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The ref who looked a little like Ernie Johnson, Jr. hated the Bear.
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Refs didn’t help, but the Bears have themselves to blame. Can’t even line up correctly. Don’t wait till 2nd half to start being competitive.
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Yes, it was a bad night for the refs, but my god are people overreacting. The Bears can’t even line up right.
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Do not overreact. Lol.
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Yes, it was a bad night for the refs, but my god are people overreacting. The Bears can’t even line up right.
Even with all the issues, the Bears deserved to win last night. "It was a bad night for the refs" is the understatement of the NFL season. They flat out cost the Bears that game.
At least a 7 point swing in a 2 point game between the phantom call that reversed a Bears TD and the absolutely unconscionable taunting call.
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https://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/32588927/chicago-bears-lb-cassius-marsh-says-was-hip-checked-ref-being-hit-taunting-penalty-incredibly-inappropriate
Anybody else notice that hip check? Thought that was odd. And, almost as if the official was hesitating throwing the flag, and then he made contact with Marsh, and the flag came out.
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I think calling it a “hip check” is a bit of an exaggeration but the ref absolutely intentionally leans out to make contact with him. Doesn’t throw the flag during the phantom “taunting” but waits until after he bumps him and the player’s halfway across the field back to the Bears sideline.
Marsh, being a journeyman practice squad guy, would be lucky to play in the league ever again if he’d intentionally leaned out to make contact with a ref. There should be similar consequences for a ref that intentionally makes contact with a player.
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Even with all the issues, the Bears deserved to win last night. "It was a bad night for the refs" is the understatement of the NFL season. They flat out cost the Bears that game.
At least a 7 point swing in a 2 point game between the phantom call that reversed a Bears TD and the absolutely unconscionable taunting call.
No, they didn’t. They shot themsleves in the foot every bit as much as they were victimized by the refs. You had a couple of bad calls go against you on the road. Try lining up correctly and not playing like shit for 2.5 quarters.
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I think calling it a “hip check” is a bit of an exaggeration but the ref absolutely intentionally leans out to make contact with him. Doesn’t throw the flag during the phantom “taunting” but waits until after he bumps him and the player’s halfway across the field back to the Bears sideline.
Marsh, being a journeyman practice squad guy, would be lucky to play in the league ever again if he’d intentionally leaned out to make contact with a ref. There should be similar consequences for a ref that intentionally makes contact with a player.
The ref was giving up 100 pounds and 35 years to an NFL player coming directly at him in pads. I’d have turned my body, too. Who had to shift direction to avoid a collision? Hint: Marsh. The taunting call is completely fair to take issue with. No one bats an eye at this if not for the questionable taunting call.
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No, they didn’t. They shot themsleves in the foot every bit as much as they were victimized by the refs. You had a couple of bad calls go against you on the road. Try lining up correctly and not playing like shit for 2.5 quarters.
There were at least 5 blatantly bad calls that went against the Bears including two that directly changed the score in a 2 point game. The Bears made mistakes but absolutely deserved to win the game. There’s a reason literally everyone, from Steelers and Packers fans to the most shameless of take artists, is talking about how badly the Bears got hosed today.
There’s zero chance you wouldn’t be outraged about this if you actually wanted the Bears to win. That you wanted them to lose is the entire reason your view is what it is.
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There were at least 5 blatantly bad calls that went against the Bears including two that directly changed the score in a 2 point game. The Bears made mistakes but absolutely deserved to win the game. There’s a reason literally everyone, from Steelers and Packers fans to the most shameless of take artists, is talking about how badly the Bears got hosed today.
There’s zero chance you wouldn’t be outraged about this if you actually wanted the Bears to win. That you wanted them to lose is the entire reason your view is what it is.
There’s probably some truth in that. But the ref 100% didn’t initiate contact with Marsh. He looked to be protecting himself to me. I wouldn’t say there were 5 calls, but definitely a couple. It happens.
Maybe try learning to line up correctly. Maybe don’t stand there and stare at the other team for 5-6 seconds after “‘making a play.” The Bears definitely got the short end, but they also did themselves no favors. I see similar shit from the Giants, Eagles, etc. all the time. Don’t put yourself in position to lose close games so regularly.
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A good team finds a way to overcome what the Bears went through last night. The Bears are not a good team.
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A good/disciplined team probably still wins that game. The Bears are neither. Spilt milk.
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He sure as hell initiated contact with Marsh. If he was going to make that call, he had plenty of opportunities to do so before he bumped Marsh. The karate kick, walking over towards the Steeler sideline. C'mon Tempo! You may need to change the "objective board realist" part of your signature....
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Tempo….*Agenda-driven board “realist.”
So you’re NOT a Bears fan it appears.
Are you even an Illini fan?!
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The ref was giving up 100 pounds and 35 years to an NFL player coming directly at him in pads. I’d have turned my body, too. Who had to shift direction to avoid a collision? Hint: Marsh. The taunting call is completely fair to take issue with. No one bats an eye at this if not for the questionable taunting call.
You'd have turned your body INTO the player, and thrown your arm backwards? Why? I'd think a huge dude running at you would make you move away from him, not directly into him.
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Tempo….*Agenda-driven board “realist.”
So you’re NOT a Bears fan it appears.
Are you even an Illini fan?!
This is exceedingly dumb. Of course he's a Bears and Illini fan, he just wants the Bears' coach and GM fired so he wants them to lose, which colors his opinion on this completely.
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Lol, the refs feet never moved and he made himself smaller, not bigger. You guys are seeing what you want to see. The ref barely moves. His feet move not at all. I’m definitely going to stay stationary if a giant man in pads is jogging right at me. Hilarious. Again, Marsh had to zigzag to his left to avoid a head on collision. The ref barely moves at all.
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There’s probably some truth in that. But the ref 100% didn’t initiate contact with Marsh. He looked to be protecting himself to me. I wouldn’t say there were 5 calls, but definitely a couple. It happens.
Maybe try learning to line up correctly. Maybe don’t stand there and stare at the other team for 5-6 seconds after “‘making a play.” The Bears definitely got the short end, but they also did themselves no favors. I see similar shit from the Giants, Eagles, etc. all the time. Don’t put yourself in position to lose close games so regularly.
Off the top of my head, three roughing calls that got missed on Fields (including two on back to back plays), the phantom call that called back the Bears TD where the guy wasn't touched, the taunting call. There's 5 right there without even looking back at the game.
And the ref absolutely initiated contact, how can you pretend otherwise? Marsh was not going to touch him until the ref shifted his butt out and threw his left arm behind himself.
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Has anyone here ever taken a karate lesson for Christ’s sake?
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No one is talking about that if not for the highly questionable taunting call. Absolutely no one.
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https://twitter.com/PlntBasedPapi/status/1457930927703662595?s=20
Like honestly, your take is that he's actually trying to AVOID being hit by moving directly into the player's path? If you were trying to avoid contact don't you think you'd move your body away from the person, not directly in line with the direction they're moving?
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No one is talking about that if not for the highly questionable taunting call. Absolutely no one.
Well yes, if the refs hadn't stolen the game most people probably wouldn't be talking about how they did. Great point?
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Off the top of my head, three roughing calls that got missed on Fields (including two on back to back plays), the phantom call that called back the Bears TD where the guy wasn't touched, the taunting call. There's 5 right there without even looking back at the game.
And the ref absolutely initiated contact, how can you pretend otherwise? Marsh was not going to touch him until the ref shifted his butt out and threw his left arm behind himself.
I’ve watched it 25x. Marsh has to change direction to avoid a head on collision because he was going right at the ref. The refs feet never even move.
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The ref barely moves at all.
Except when he sticks his ass in Marsh's way.
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I’ve watched it 25x. Marsh has to change direction to avoid a head on collision because he was going right at the ref. The refs feet never even move.
If you can say "the refs feet never even move", it's clear you haven't watched it once let alone 25 times. They objectively move into the path the player is moving, there isn't room for debate on that. He swings his left foot and left arm back directly into the player's path.
The only feasible rationale is "he had a brain cramp and accidentally moved into the player's path". "He didn't move into the player's path" is a loser of an argument based on the video, because he objectively did.
If the roles were reversed Marsh would've absolutely been ejected for initiating contact with an official.
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This is exceedingly dumb. Of course he's a Bears and Illini fan, he just wants the Bears' coach and GM fired so he wants them to lose, which colors his opinion on this completely.
The shocking part is that people are still not suprised by the abject stupidity of JudgeJudy's posts.
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But who will protect the 270 player in pads from the ref’s ever so slight ass movement?
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Honest question:
if the flag was for staring down the bench as the ref claimed, why didn't he throw the flag when he was staring down the bench? He waits until after the bump, when Marsh is halfway back across the field to the other sideline to throw the flag. Don't get it.
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But who will protect the 270 player in pads from the ref’s ever so slight ass movement?
I don't think I have to worry about the football player being hurt to say that a ref initiating contact with a player while making a game-changing bad call against said player is a pretty bad look.
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I’m not going to argue this asinine topic. The ref was bracing for contact, and rightly so. He barely moved. Marsh was heading right at him until Marsh zig zags out of the way with one step left. No one, and I mean no one makes anything of it if not for the taunting call. Again, bad teams seem to put themselves in position to be penalized. Make the tackle, turn back to your team and celebrate with Roquan on the way back instead of staring at the opposing sideline. Former Steeler btw.
This whole debate is stupid. Bad, undisciplined teams lose games like this all the time. Jump on the merry go round and go for another ride.
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I’m not going to argue this asinine topic. The ref was bracing for contact, and rightly so. He barely moved. Marsh was heading right at him until Marsh zig zags out of the way with one step left. No one, and I mean no one makes anything of it if not for the taunting call. Again, bad teams seem to put themselves in position to be penalized. Make the tackle, turn back to your team and celebrate with Roquan on the way back instead of staring at the opposing sideline. Former Steeler btw.
This whole debate is stupid. Bad, undisciplined teams lose games like this all the time. Jump on the merry go round and go for another ride.
Yeah, I mean if the video pretty objectively proved me wrong I wouldn't argue it either.
It was an awful call, a disgraceful move to initiate contact. and there absolutely need to be consequences for it. I just refuse to believe it's a coincidence that the only person I see anywhere defending the ref is someone who actively wanted the Bears to lose.
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But who will protect the 270 player in pads from the ref’s ever so slight ass movement?
That is not the point. He moved into the celebrating moron and then threw the flag at the celebrating moron.
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The ref was bracing for contact, and rightly so. He barely moved....
He was not bracing for contact. He moved INTO Marsh's way. Why? Have no clue. Was extremely odd. Guy had it in for the Bear. You should be happy as it worked.
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He was not bracing for contact. He moved INTO Marsh's way. Why? Have no clue. Was extremely odd. Guy had it in for the Bear. You should be happy as it worked.
Yeah, saying that the ref was trying to avoid or brace for contact by moving directly into the player is just the flimsiest possible argument.
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Lol the ref barely moves at all. And that was after the giant man in pads started jogging directly at him. The ref was in a defensive position. Huge nothing burger. No one notices it if not for the taunting call.
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Yeah, saying that the ref was trying to avoid or brace for contact by moving directly into the player is just the flimsiest possible argument.
The ref was stationary when Marsh started directly in his path. JFC
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To blame contact on the stationary much smaller person is an asinine take.
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Lol the ref barely moves at all. And that was after the giant man in pads started jogging directly at him. The ref was in a defensive position. Huge nothing burger. No one notices it if not for the taunting call.
The ref barely moves, but sticks his ass in the way of the giant man in pads is a defensive position? And only when he bumps player he pulls out the flag? Weird for a "nothing burger."
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The ref was stationary when Marsh started directly in his path. JFC
Until he moved his butt INTO the path of Marsh.
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To blame contact on the stationary much smaller person is an asinine take.
He was not stationary moving his butt into the way of Marsh though.
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Tempo Behind the Curve with his Hot Take.
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To blame contact on the stationary much smaller person is an asinine take.
We're blaming contact on the guy who objectively stuck his body into the path another guy was moving on.
I said earlier that I think calling it a 'hip check' is an exaggeration, but he absolutely moved his body into Marsh's path and initiated the contact no matter how hard you try to pretend he didn't.
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To blame contact on the stationary much smaller person is an asinine take.
Because only a larger person can initiate contact.
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We're blaming contact on the guy who objectively stuck his body into the path another guy was moving on.
I said earlier that I think calling it a 'hip check' is an exaggeration, but he absolutely moved his body into Marsh's path and initiated the contact no matter how hard you try to pretend he didn't.
Lol the ref literally barely moves. And he made his body smaller, not bigger. Marsh has to side step to avoid a complete head on collision. All while the ref apparently twitched his butt.
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That shit happens all the time. No one notices without the highly questionable taunting call.
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Lol the ref literally barely moves. And he made his body smaller, not bigger. Marsh has to side step to avoid a complete head on collision. All while the ref apparently twitched his butt.
The ref stuck his butt out, swung his left leg and arm back directly into the path.
Typically when I'm trying to avoid contact my move isn't to put my body directly into the path of someone running. You?
Like straight up if you were arguing "oh he just had a brain fart and moved the wrong way", I'd be like okay it doesn't look like that to me but at least that's feasible.
Arguing that he doesn't initiate the contact is crazy. He clearly and obviously does. There would've been no contact without him shifting his body into Marsh's path.
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That shit happens all the time. No one notices without the highly questionable taunting call.
True, but the timing of the flag made this all very curious, no?
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That shit happens all the time. No one notices without the highly questionable taunting call.
Well yes, the call that swung the game was definitely also a part of why this was bad.
But can you show me other examples of refs initiating contact with players if it happens all the time? I don't remember it ever happening but maybe it has.
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Little thought experiment for Tempo.
It's next year. We've fired Nagy and Pace and are in the hunt for a playoff spot, led by Justin Fields.
You still telling people they're overreacting to the awful officiating? You still defending the ref that initiated contact with a player? Seems incredibly unlikely you'd agree with yourself were the situation different with the Bears, even if the details of the game and play were identical.
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Lol the ref literally barely moves. And he made his body smaller, not bigger. Marsh has to side step to avoid a complete head on collision. All while the ref apparently twitched his butt.
"Twitched his butt." Oh, Tempo.
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There was no swinging of the left leg. The left leg recoils after contact. The ref was making himself smaller and probably bracing for some nearly inevitable contact. 90% of the motion was coming from Marsh. No one notices any of this without the controversial taunting call.
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The notion the ref went out of his way to create contact is absurd. The video just doesn’t support it.
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The ref turned sideways, moved his right leg about 2 inches; and braced himself for likely contact. What a brute. Who will protect 265 pound men in pads with all the momentum from the granite butt twitching refs?
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The notion the ref went out of his way to create contact is absurd. The video just doesn’t support it.
https://news.yahoo.com/nfl-referee-appeared-hip-check-174742080.html
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I guess no one here has ever taken a karate lesson. Turn yourself sideways to create a smaller target in case you’re about to get hit. I just don’t see it. Marsh was the one with all the momentum and he was basically running right at a 69 year old man who had little time to react or guess which way he was going to cut.
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Like I said, if not for the highly controversial penalty, this doesn’t even get noticed.
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So in Tempo's mind, this is what happened.
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Closer to this IMO. Marsh clearly had to sidestep the ref to miss him. Im sure he ref knew which was he was going to cut….
https://images.app.goo.gl/JYLRSdTeEJZYjuoT6
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Nm
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Your best take in this thread!
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I just don’t see it. IMO the evidence is inconclusive at best, and likely incidental on both parties.
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Your best take in this thread!
You’re right. The 69 year old dude who barely moved, totally wanted to create contact with the 260 pound linebacker in pads running his direction. Incredible cat like reflexes by the old man to know which direction Marsh was going to cut, too. What a devious old man.
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You’re right. The 69 year old dude who barely moved, totally wanted to create contact with the 260 pound linebacker in pads running his direction. Incredible cat like reflexes by the old man to know which direction Marsh was going to cut, too. What a devious old man.
I'm sure everyone else but you's just wrong.
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I'm sure everyone else but you's just wrong.
Ok
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I'm sure everyone else but you's just wrong.
We are homers!
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I’d like to see them break this incident down scientifically, like they did with Odell Beckham’s catch.
“The ref’s right shoulder moved 31 degrees forward, while his butt moved 1 1/8th inches in the opposite direction, increasing his hit radius by 7.9%.”
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Ahhh feels like the good ol days
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Everyone on The Twitter disagrees with Tempo on this one.
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Lol the ref literally barely moves.
Outside of turning his body and backing that ass up into Marsh, I agree.
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Did tempo find a different video on the Twitter than the rest of us are watching?
Of course not, spark already nailed him to the wall, lit him on fire, then pissed all over his smoldering remains.
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Cute.
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The fact remains, one guy was doing 95% of the motion in that video, and it wasn’t the ref.
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The fact remains, one guy was doing 95% of the motion in that video, and it wasn’t the ref.
Yet that purported 5% caused the contact.
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Who had to swerve to avoid direct contact?
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I agree though, it makes perfect sense that a 69 year old man should put himself at risk of taking the full brunt of contact from a giant man in pads coming directly at him in a full jog.
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Who had to swerve to avoid direct contact?
Marsh
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I agree though, it makes perfect sense that a 69 year old man should put himself at risk of taking the full brunt of contact from a giant man in pads coming directly at him in a full jog.
He putt his butt at risk!
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Marsh
Exactly. The ref barely moves. His right foot moves literally about 2-3 inches and he turns sideways in a defensive position.
Marsh put himself squarely in the gray area with the roundhouse kick and then taking 5-6 steps toward the Steelers sideline. Taunting has been a point of emphasis all year.
No one looks at that video twice if they don’t hate the call. But again, Marsh put himself squarely in the gray zone. If a giant man in pads is jogging squarely in my direction, I would tighten my body and turn sideways too. All of us would.
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Exactly. The ref barely moves. His right foot moves literally about 2-3 inches and he turns sideways in a defensive position.
Marsh put himself squarely in the gray area with the roundhouse kick and then taking 5-6 steps toward the Steelers sideline. Taunting has been a point of emphasis all year.
No one looks at that video twice if they don’t hate the call. But again, Marsh put himself squarely in the gray zone. If a giant man in pads is jogging squarely in my direction, I would tighten my body and turn sideways too. All of us would.
Marsh only had to move to avoid direct contact because the ref purposely stuck his butt out to hit Marsh.
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Lmao
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Lmao
Everyone on The Twitter and in the media and here agrees that you are way BTC on this one.
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Marsh clearly tried to avoid contact, the ref appeared to try to initiate contact. I don’t know if he did it on purpose or not but it certainly appears he tried to initiate some level of contact with Marsh.
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But, but, but the one is a big scary football player, and the other is a feeble old man that once saw a karate film.
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Exactly. The ref barely moves. His right foot moves literally about 2-3 inches and he turns sideways in a defensive position.
Marsh put himself squarely in the gray area with the roundhouse kick and then taking 5-6 steps toward the Steelers sideline. Taunting has been a point of emphasis all year.
No one looks at that video twice if they don’t hate the call. But again, Marsh put himself squarely in the gray zone. If a giant man in pads is jogging squarely in my direction, I would tighten my body and turn sideways too. All of us would.
Have already pointed out that if I were trying to avoid contact I’d move away from the path of the person instead of directly into it, so leave me out of your “all of us would”. I think it’s clear from the reaction that you are in a very tiny minority thinking he moved away from contact when he moved towards it.
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Marsh clearly tried to avoid contact, the ref appeared to try to initiate contact. I don’t know if he did it on purpose or not but it certainly appears he tried to initiate some level of contact with Marsh.
I’d buy, to some degree, just a brain fart. Saw a guy moving at me, brain reacted and I stupidly moved into the guy instead of away from him. But pretending he didn’t move into Marsh is really weird, it’s clear in the video to everyone I’ve talked to but one.
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I'm going with Marsh said something to the punter who was coming on the field.
Ref heard it, he started reaching for his flag and the violent collision with Marsh was a nothing.
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I’d buy, to some degree, just a brain fart. Saw a guy moving at me, brain reacted and I stupidly moved into the guy instead of away from him. But pretending he didn’t move into Marsh is really weird, it’s clear in the video to everyone I’ve talked to but one.
Correct.
I just can’t understand how anyone can delude themselves into thinking the ref went into a defensive posture and tried to avoid contact.
What the ref did is exactly what people do in crowded places when they see someone they want to talk to walking toward/behind them and want to get their attention.
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Everyone on The Twitter and in the media and here agrees that you are way BTC on this one.
That’s fine. I also realize almost everyone hates refs. Hates the call. And are super unlikely to give a ref the benefit of the doubt.
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Have already pointed out that if I were trying to avoid contact I’d move away from the path of the person instead of directly into it, so leave me out of your “all of us would”. I think it’s clear from the reaction that you are in a very tiny minority thinking he moved away from contact when he moved towards it.
Lol. Marsh clearly started out directly in the path of the ref, as evidenced by the fact the ref’s feet barely moved in the slightest, and Marsh had to swerve.
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Have already pointed out that if I were trying to avoid contact I’d move away from the path of the person instead of directly into it, so leave me out of your “all of us would”. I think it’s clear from the reaction that you are in a very tiny minority thinking he moved away from contact when he moved towards it.
I’m not saying he “moved away from it,” because he barely moved at all. I’m saying he turned his body to deflect taking a direct hit; and tensed his body to prepare for any contact.
Again, NO ONE, not a damn soul, is talking about this if it wasn’t for the highly controversial penalty.
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I’m not saying he “moved away from it,” because he barely moved at all. I’m saying he turned his body to deflect taking a direct hit; and tensed his body to prepare for any contact.
Again, NO ONE, not a damn soul, is talking about this if it wasn’t for the highly controversial penalty.
Not every day a ref hip checks a player.
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Next level mental gymnastics
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Tempo
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Next level mental gymnastics
Funny, coming from a probable conspiracy nut.
People found a great chance to pile on a ref who probably made a bad (certainly unpopular) subjective call. Name me a profession more despised than referees? I’ll hang up and listen to your answer.
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My thoughts on the actual call itself. I get what the NFL is trying to do. I don’t really have a problem with taunting calls, but I do think that refs should probably keep the flag in their pockets late in a close game, unless it’s particularly egregious; which I didn’t feel this one was. But as i said, when you put yourself out there, you put the team in danger. The Bears are undisciplined; that cost them the game as much as the refs.
Having said that, I make no apologies for wanting the Bears to lose. Changing management is as crucial as getting the QB position right IMO.
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Everyone and their brother knows taunting is a POE this year. If you can’t play smart and line up correctly in crucial situations don’t be surprised when you lose. Middling, poorly coached teams lose games like this every week.
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Funny, coming from a probable conspiracy nut.
People found a great chance to pile on a ref who probably made a bad (certainly unpopular) subjective call. Name me a profession more despised than referees? I’ll hang up and listen to your answer.
The timing of the call, after he bumped into Kung Foo Fighter, just added to the ludicrousness of the ref sticking his ass out in the 1st place.
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My thoughts on the actual call itself. I get what the NFL is trying to do. I don’t really have a problem with taunting calls, but I do think that refs should probably keep the flag in their pockets late in a close game, unless it’s particularly egregious; which I didn’t feel this one was. But as i said, when you put yourself out there, you put the team in danger. The Bears are undisciplined; that cost them the game as much as the refs.
No one here is arguing against you on this. It’s your bizarre delusion that the referee didn’t move toward Marsh that no one can comprehend. Proof that telling yourself something enough times can make it real. This is also known as girl logic.
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The timing of the call, after he bumped into Kung Foo Fighter, just added to the ludicrousness of the ref sticking his ass out in the 1st place.
The ref had his hand on the flag the entire time. He probably intended to throw it all along. Agreed, the timing makes it look worse than it probably was.
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No one here is arguing against you on this. It’s your bizarre delusion that the referee didn’t move toward Marsh that no one can comprehend. Proof that telling yourself something enough times can make it real. This is also known as girl logic.
Cool brand of misogyny you have going on there.
All the ref did was turn sideways. His right foot barely moves, his left foot appears to not move at all. How much could he really have moved? Marsh was the one doing 95% of the moving.
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You know what, im slightly wrong. His left foot moves slightly too. Two of the tiniest baby steps imaginable. Like literally a couple/three inches with both feet. Marsh took off in a direction completely at the referee. As I’ve said 20x, no one even notices or discusses this if not for the perceived egregiousness of the penalty call. Players and refs inadvertently bump each all the time. It’s certainly plausible that Corrente sought contact. It’s far from definitive.
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Try looking at something besides his feet. Like his ass. And left arm. Jesus Christ.
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Try looking at something besides his feet. Like his ass. And left arm. Jesus Christ.
I sure hope Marsh wasn’t injured. I thought you were a “suck it up” guy? You getting soft? His ass moves barely at all. His left arm swings a bit. Mountain-molehill
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If Corrente were really trying to go after him, why didn’t he toss him from the game? As I understand it, contact with a ref allows it.
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If Corrente tosses him from the game, you’d have a much stronger argument. Without that, it’s just conspiracy theories.
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Without that, it’s just conspiracy theories.
Other than the video showing the ref sticking his butt out on purpose.
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Other than the video showing the ref sticking his butt out on purpose.
Oh wow…I totally see it now.
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Oh wow…I totally see it now.
Not much different!
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Gotta hand it to Tempo: He's the only person anywhere white knighting for Corrente right now.
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Gotta hand it to Tempo: He's the only person anywhere white knighting for Corrente right now.
Everybody needs at least one good friend.
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Everyone sees what they want to see. Sure, the guy who barely moved imitated contact. Not many people are going to take a referees side, especially after a very controversial call.
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For the 40th time, no one bats an eye at any of this if not for the taunting call. If the ref was really out to get him, he’d have ejected him for contact with a referee.
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Now, if you want to talk about the officiating itself, that’s a real debate.
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Holy fuck who cares why are you even wasting time watching the shitty bears anyway
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Everyone sees what they want to see. Sure, the guy who barely moved imitated contact. Not many people are going to take a referees side, especially after a very controversial call.
Somehow everyone but you saw him move into Marsh's way.
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Yep, somehow.
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Yep, somehow.
All the people on The Twitter sure did!
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Like I said, a lot people hated the call. And even fewer people like refs.
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Like I said, a lot people hated the call. And even fewer people like refs.
And actually honestly watched the video of the ref bumping into Marsh.
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It’s undeniable.
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It’s undeniable.
It is! Have not seen anyone else espouse your take.
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This Thursday night game sucks. No refs have hip checked any players yet.
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Need a questionable taunting call to spice things up a bit.
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Waddle was all up in the face of that old ref after that deep ball. Didn’t see the ref make any attempt to make contact with him though.
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8 penalties on the Dolphins in the 4th quarter alone! Let the conspiracy theories fly!
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I remember, vividly, a time when you challenged my contention that you start a shitload of threads.
Looking at the board that Custard created for the express purpose of allowing you to argue with yourself, I feel happy 😊.
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I’m happy for you, man.
I still never started all those Groce threads you said I did, and I proved it.
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And actually, this forum was created to allow Spark and I to argue together. But he, like I did, has taken a sabbatical.
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I still never started all those Groce threads you said I did, and I proved it.
You still don't understand how the internet works. That's true.
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Yes, a virtually unmoderated board was scrubbed clean of excessive Groce threads. And unmarked black helicopters have been following you around for weeks. I get it.
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Robb, you’re the expert on my bunghole. How’s my poop smelling? Am I still healthy?
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Yes, your shit stinks.
On the bright side, I can picture Jobu boiling over as he reads your contention that HQ wasn't moderated. Maybe he'll join again, just to yell at you about that.
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The only moderation i ever saw over there was for personal attacks or excessive vulgarity, so that checks out. It certainly wasn’t moderated Loyalty style.
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It's charming that you now continue to argue, on a board where you start a new thread for each sentence that springs to mind, that you don't have a thread-starting habit.
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I’ve never argued against the hypothesis I start more threads than most (perhaps anyone). And now, I’ve been given a forum where I can do that.
Robb is like that mediocre KGB agent turned politician who can’t let the Cold War go.
He hates the threads that I start (and the amount) but rest assured, he will be opening them and commenting in them.
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It's charming
I’ve been called charming a few times. That also checks out.
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These data are ascertainable.
I don't open most of your threads. Nobody does.
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These data are ascertainable.
I don't open most of your threads. Nobody does.
So obviously false
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It's literally just you talking to yourself.
(https://i.ibb.co/3mrF5z7/Tempo-board-is-only-Tempo.png)
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You don’t open my threads, that’s why you commented in a Bears/Steelers thread. Everyone here knows you have zero interest in NFL football.
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Yeah, it’s my forum, so I get to take a dump here as often as I like. And you still come sniffing.
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How remarkably easy would it be for Robb to not visit this forum if he truly hated my threads as much as he pretends?
Dude is obsessed with me. Has been for a dozen years.
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Unable to let the cold war go
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My hunch is that many, if not most of this board's users employ the Recent portal, to see if there's anything new/worth reading.
Because you constantly, incessantly clog it with your tripe, it's impossible to not see that you've barfed up another piece of drivel.
"Once again," you don't understand how the internet works.
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Yeah, it’s “impossible” not to log into the “Spark vs Tempo” forum. Fuck off, douchebag. Everyone sees through your thin veneer.
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“I logged onto the Internet, and it forced me to open (and comment) on Tempo’s posts!”
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I’ve been Internetting for 20 something years, and I can’t ever remember being forced to log into, read, and comment on anything.
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You don’t open my threads, that’s why you commented in a Bears/Steelers thread. Everyone here knows you have zero interest in NFL football.
You live rent free in Robs head, a spacious place for sure
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You live rent free in Robs head, a spacious place for sure
If we call Jobu a 10, Robb is definitely an 8-8.5.
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Tempo has to be trolling !
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If we call Jobu a 10, Robb is definitely an 8-8.5.
Funny how you don’t realize that your mere presence here makes this place terrible. I would like to think others realize it as well.
I’ve been quite happy not spending time here. And I’ll continue to do so.
Hope you get hit by a fucking truck crossing the street, you miserable fuck piece of shit.
Have an awful weekend. And if you get tempted to kill yourself, do it.
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It's kinda hard to fake that brand. He's really one of a kind.
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It's kinda hard to fake that brand. He's really one of a kind.
He’s not faking. He really is a miserable bastard.
Look back at this thread. Fucking awful. More of the same Tempo bullshit. It really makes this place god awful.
I got a PM a few days ago asking if I would come back to talk basketball with the season starting.
I can’t do it. I just really can’t post here anymore. Not if Tempo is here. Fuck that. I would rather be happy.
Later, assholes.
Oh, and once again. Tempo, I hope you die soon.
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If you stick to actual Illini sports threads you won’t see much of tempo at all.
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If you stick to actual Illini sports threads you won’t see much of tempo at all.
I would like to believe that, but we all know that’s not true. If, for example, we were talking about an actual game, he would show up to blast the coaching staff, or tell everyone that they are insufferable homers, or Mark Smith should get 3-5 more minutes or whatever.
Fuck that, lol.
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I may pop in during a game thread. But I will not waste anymore time talking to dipshit34. Life is way too fucking short.
As an example, I went to a visitation for a fire chief in a neighboring town that died of Covid. 48 years old. Pretty messed up.
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He’s not faking. He really is a miserable bastard.
I meant you.
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I meant you.
Oh. Well, you’re right. I am one of a kind. Like it or not.
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If you stick to actual Illini sports threads you won’t see much of tempo at all.
But because Tempo pollutes the board with incessant threads, I have to check each forum to find out whether there's something new.
You'll wind up paying for it when your innodes count exceeds your service level.
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But because Tempo pollutes the board with incessant threads, I have to check each forum to find out whether there's something new.
You'll wind up paying for it when your innodes count exceeds your service level.
He’s a fucking pain in the ass and a miserable bastard. I don’t know why people choose to engage him, honestly.
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He’s a fucking pain in the ass and a miserable bastard. I don’t know why people choose to engage him, honestly.
Is this fake death number 30?
Good to see you again, Jobu!
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If you stick to actual Illini sports threads you won’t see much of tempo at all.
😁
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Is this fake death number 30?
Good to see you again, Jobu!
I lost count, lol
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Lmao
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I’m still the #1 draw here. Wasn’t even involved, and a page and a half on yours truly!
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I’m still the #1 draw here.
Oh for fuck's sake.
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He’s a narcissist AND extremely vain.
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I’m still the #1 draw here. Wasn’t even involved, and a page and a half on yours truly!
You should have the largest sig here. You have to add #1 draw.
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Lol
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https://www.nfl.com/news/nfl-fines-bears-de-cassius-marsh-for-controversial-taunting-penalty
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Funny how you don’t realize that your mere presence here makes this place terrible. I would like to think others realize it as well.
I’ve been quite happy not spending time here. And I’ll continue to do so.
Hope you get hit by a fucking truck crossing the street, you miserable fuck piece of shit.
Have an awful weekend. And if you get tempted to kill yourself, do it.
I like Tempo.
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Cooper Manning on Fox's pre-pregame show noted the "hip check" in his bit.
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I like Tempo.
I like you too, Spark. And I’m not just saying that. We’d probably have a great time arguing over beer and nachos.
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Cooper Manning on Fox's pre-pregame show noted the "hip check" in his bit.
Sensationalism sells. You didn’t get the moral of the story in Natural Born Killers?
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Taunting called vs the Chargers in the Vikings game. Lol.
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It is a point of emphasis.
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https://twitter.com/tompelissero/status/1459841273460932610?s=21
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I like you too, Spark. And I’m not just saying that. We’d probably have a great time arguing over beer and nachos.
I think we'd all enjoy that time. Your hands & your mouth would be full.
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https://twitter.com/tompelissero/status/1459841273460932610?s=21
No one is denying the Bears’ came out on the short end of several calls.
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No one is denying the Bears’ came out on the short end of several calls.
I was just sharing a tweet. Haven’t offered my opinion one way or the other.
Don’t talk to me, you fucking asshole.
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Lol
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Lions tied the Steelers. Fucking Nagy POS.