Hawkins/TSJ/PG thread 1 week out.

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Re: Hawkins/TSJ/PG thread 1 week out.

« Reply #420 on: June 05, 2023, 12:51:21 PM »

Quote from: ThePAMan on June 05, 2023, 12:47:59 PM

He was a great QB playing for really bad teams. Was a Pro-Bowler when that actually meant something.

He was a very talented quarterback who had a couple of good years. His career as a whole was not great. If he had quarterbacked Pittsburgh in place or Terry Bradshaw? Who knows? Maybe he wins 6 SBs.

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"He commented more than once that, 'You know, Hitler did some good things, too,'" Kelly recalled to The Times. Kelly said he would usually quash the conversation by saying "nothing (Hitler) did, you could argue, was good," but that Trump would occasionally bring up the topic again.

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Re: Hawkins/TSJ/PG thread 1 week out.

« Reply #421 on: June 05, 2023, 12:53:38 PM »

Quote from: Tempo34 on June 05, 2023, 12:51:21 PM

He was a very talented quarterback who had a couple of good years. His career as a whole was not great. If he had quarterbacked Pittsburgh in place or Terry Bradshaw? Who knows? Maybe he wins 6 SBs.

We will never know. Maybe we can go back and play Strat O Matic football with Archie Manning on those Steelers instead of Bradshaw.

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Re: Hawkins/TSJ/PG thread 1 week out.

« Reply #422 on: June 05, 2023, 12:58:09 PM »

Quote from: Tempo34 on June 05, 2023, 12:42:00 PM

I’m not sure Brett Favre or Ben Roethlisberger were the “best leaders.” Nor Aaron Rodgers. They were supremely talented and had sufficient help.

Disagree!! Favre and Big Ben put their bodies on the line! That gets teammates excited! Look at the history of qbs who don't lower their shoulder for a block! There teammates do not support them!!!

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Re: Hawkins/TSJ/PG thread 1 week out.

« Reply #423 on: June 05, 2023, 01:05:29 PM »

Quote from: sharethejuice on June 05, 2023, 12:58:09 PM

Disagree!! Favre and Big Ben put their bodies on the line! That gets teammates excited! Look at the history of qbs who don't lower their shoulder for a block! There teammates do not support them!!!

A lot of quarterbacks have “put their bodies” on the line.” They were good enough leaders, but I wouldn’t look at them (or Rodgers) as “elite leaders.” They were often divisive and selfish.

Brady and Manning were unquestionably great leaders. The one thing all of these quarterbacks have in common is talent. Brady had the least probably.

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"He commented more than once that, 'You know, Hitler did some good things, too,'" Kelly recalled to The Times. Kelly said he would usually quash the conversation by saying "nothing (Hitler) did, you could argue, was good," but that Trump would occasionally bring up the topic again.