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Hawkins/TSJ/PG thread 1 week out.

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Re: Hawkins/TSJ/PG thread 1 week out.
« Reply #390 on: June 05, 2023, 06:31:46 AM »
Quote from: Tempo34 on June 04, 2023, 06:49:04 PM
That’s a pretty nuanced concept for ThePAMan. Not sure the guy who thinks only quarterbacks have win/loss record responsibility will get it.
LOL.
You never did tell me Whitehair's W-L record as a Center versus as a Guard.
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Re: Hawkins/TSJ/PG thread 1 week out.
« Reply #391 on: June 05, 2023, 08:26:48 AM »
W-L is not a overrated stat for qb's!

A lot fo the w-l is also decided by LEADERSHIP QUALITIES

QB'S who have great W-L records were all great LEADERS in the locker room.

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‡ Tom Brady[1]    251    82    0    .754    New England Patriots Football.gif    2000–2019    219    64    0
Tampa Bay Buccaneers    2020–2022    32    18    0
2    ^ Brett Favre[2]    186    112    0    .624    Atlanta Falcons    1991    0    0    0
Green Bay Packers Football.gif    1992–2007    160    93    0
New York Jets    2008    9    7    0
Minnesota Vikings    2009–2010    17    12    0
^ Peyton Manning[3]    186    79    0    .702    Indianapolis Colts Football.gif    1998–2011    141    67    0
Denver Broncos    2012–2015    45    12    0
4    ‡ Drew Brees[4]    172    114    0    .601    San Diego Chargers    2001–2005    30    28    0
New Orleans Saints Football.gif    2006–2020    142    86    0
5    ‡ Ben Roethlisberger[5]

ALL GREAT LEADERS!
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Re: Hawkins/TSJ/PG thread 1 week out.
« Reply #392 on: June 05, 2023, 08:31:17 AM »
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Re: Hawkins/TSJ/PG thread 1 week out.
« Reply #393 on: June 05, 2023, 12:12:40 PM »
Quote from: ThePAMan on June 05, 2023, 06:31:46 AM
LOL.
You never did tell me Whitehair's W-L record as a Center versus as a Guard.

PAMan, who doesn’t like narrative driven content, can’t help but fall
for narrative driven content. Thinks wins/losses is a quarterback stat
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Re: Hawkins/TSJ/PG thread 1 week out.
« Reply #394 on: June 05, 2023, 12:15:07 PM »
Or to put it more clearly; PAMan, who can’t stand “talking head” types from ESPN, can’t help but fall for ESPN caliber narratives.
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Re: Hawkins/TSJ/PG thread 1 week out.
« Reply #395 on: June 05, 2023, 12:15:39 PM »
Quote from: Tempo34 on June 05, 2023, 12:12:40 PM
PAMan, who doesn’t like narrative driven content, can’t help but fall
for narrative driven content. Thinks wins/losses is a quarterback stat

Probably better than the QBR stat.
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Re: Hawkins/TSJ/PG thread 1 week out.
« Reply #396 on: June 05, 2023, 12:17:34 PM »
Quote from: Tempo34 on June 05, 2023, 12:15:07 PM
Or to put it more clearly; PAMan, who can’t stand “talking head” types from ESPN, can’t help but fall for ESPN caliber narratives.

Which is ironic since you love to tell us what Dan Orlovsky says re JFC.
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Re: Hawkins/TSJ/PG thread 1 week out.
« Reply #397 on: June 05, 2023, 12:20:22 PM »
I literally cannot think of anything more “mindless talking head” than believing wins/losses are a quarterback stat.
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"He commented more than once that, 'You know, Hitler did some good things, too,'" Kelly recalled to The Times. Kelly said he would usually quash the conversation by saying "nothing (Hitler) did, you could argue, was good," but that Trump would occasionally bring up the topic again.
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Re: Hawkins/TSJ/PG thread 1 week out.
« Reply #398 on: June 05, 2023, 12:20:43 PM »
Quote from: ThePAMan on June 05, 2023, 12:17:34 PM
Which is ironic since you love to tell us what Dan Orlovsky says re JFC.

And like 30 other people. Including former HOF quarterbacks.
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"He commented more than once that, 'You know, Hitler did some good things, too,'" Kelly recalled to The Times. Kelly said he would usually quash the conversation by saying "nothing (Hitler) did, you could argue, was good," but that Trump would occasionally bring up the topic again.
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Re: Hawkins/TSJ/PG thread 1 week out.
« Reply #399 on: June 05, 2023, 12:21:43 PM »
There’s a difference between listening to analysts and falling for hot take narratives.
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"He commented more than once that, 'You know, Hitler did some good things, too,'" Kelly recalled to The Times. Kelly said he would usually quash the conversation by saying "nothing (Hitler) did, you could argue, was good," but that Trump would occasionally bring up the topic again.
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Re: Hawkins/TSJ/PG thread 1 week out.
« Reply #400 on: June 05, 2023, 12:23:44 PM »
I have no problem listening to Dan Orlovsky break down his actual play. If he starts evaluating a quarterback on wins/losses, that’s where I would tune him out.
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"He commented more than once that, 'You know, Hitler did some good things, too,'" Kelly recalled to The Times. Kelly said he would usually quash the conversation by saying "nothing (Hitler) did, you could argue, was good," but that Trump would occasionally bring up the topic again.
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Re: Hawkins/TSJ/PG thread 1 week out.
« Reply #401 on: June 05, 2023, 12:25:34 PM »
David Woodley 34-18-1 as a career starter. Put him in the HOF TODAY.
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"He commented more than once that, 'You know, Hitler did some good things, too,'" Kelly recalled to The Times. Kelly said he would usually quash the conversation by saying "nothing (Hitler) did, you could argue, was good," but that Trump would occasionally bring up the topic again.
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Re: Hawkins/TSJ/PG thread 1 week out.
« Reply #402 on: June 05, 2023, 12:31:05 PM »
I could listen to Dan Orlavsky’s evaluation of a quarterback’s play because he would seem equipped to do that a high level. As soon as I hear him say “the only quarterback stat that matters is wins/losses,” I’d immediately know I can tune him out because he’s a fucking moron.
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"He commented more than once that, 'You know, Hitler did some good things, too,'" Kelly recalled to The Times. Kelly said he would usually quash the conversation by saying "nothing (Hitler) did, you could argue, was good," but that Trump would occasionally bring up the topic again.
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Re: Hawkins/TSJ/PG thread 1 week out.
« Reply #403 on: June 05, 2023, 12:35:18 PM »
Quote from: Tempo34 on June 05, 2023, 12:20:22 PM
I literally cannot think of anything more “mindless talking head” than believing wins/losses are a quarterback stat.

First, there are plenty of mindless stats out there. Second, no one here has said that W-L is the end all of stats or completely on the QB. But we all know that it is out there. One example is Archie Manning. Had a terrible W-L record because he was on terrible teams. Acknowledged to be a great QB but he is not in the HOF is he?
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Re: Hawkins/TSJ/PG thread 1 week out.
« Reply #404 on: June 05, 2023, 12:37:37 PM »
Back to David Woodley. There isn’t a single person alive (besides maybe his mom) that thinks David Woodley was a high-level starting quarterback because he had a stellar record as a starter.
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