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Re: NBA combine
« Reply #105 on: May 21, 2023, 07:15:00 PM »
Quote from: illiniray on May 21, 2023, 01:20:20 PM


Podz was completely lost.

And a year later a 1st round draft pick.

The only one that was lost was Underwood. 

You deserve him Nichi.  Dude is a loser idiot and you deserve the losses that come with him.

Anyone defending this bullshit that a guy can go from 5 minutes a game “completely lost”, to being a 1st round NBA pick is brain dead.

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Re: NBA combine
« Reply #106 on: June 22, 2023, 09:22:25 PM »
Podz goes 1st round to GS. It happens to every big program but what a colossal whiff.
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Re: NBA combine
« Reply #107 on: June 23, 2023, 12:39:56 AM »
"think of all the upper class bigs who weren't drafted--  Adama Sanogo of UConn, Azuolas Tubelis of Arizona,  Oscar Tshiebwe of Kentucky and Drew Timme of Gonzaga-  ..."
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Re: NBA combine
« Reply #108 on: June 23, 2023, 09:37:47 AM »
Quote from: illinicalvin on June 22, 2023, 09:22:25 PM
Podz goes 1st round to GS. It happens to every big program but what a colossal whiff.

wow I am shocked to say the least
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Re: NBA combine
« Reply #109 on: June 23, 2023, 09:40:58 AM »
Quote from: illiniray on June 23, 2023, 12:39:56 AM
"think of all the upper class bigs who weren't drafted--  Adama Sanogo of UConn, Azuolas Tubelis of Arizona,  Oscar Tshiebwe of Kentucky and Drew Timme of Gonzaga-  ..."
https://twitter.com/HoopsWeiss/status/1672104438725500928?s=20

kind of crazy how none of those guys got drafted at all, you'd think a guy like Tshiewebe would have a shot at least, same with Timme

the change of the game from big dominant forwards and centers to rangy guys that can chuck 3's is certainly... something...  although the last few MVP's were big guys so maybe these guys all just suck?   Idk

Sanogo apparently got picked up by the bulls
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Re: NBA combine
« Reply #110 on: June 23, 2023, 09:44:25 AM »
Quote from: ILLove1997 on June 23, 2023, 09:40:58 AM
Sanogo apparently got picked up by the bulls

Think this is a very underrated pick up.
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Re: NBA combine
« Reply #111 on: June 23, 2023, 09:46:44 AM »
Couldn't be more thrilled for Podziemski.  Made a big, risky bet on himself and it paid off.  What a story.  Hope he has a ton of success there - learning under Nash and Curry should be great for him.
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Re: NBA combine
« Reply #112 on: June 23, 2023, 10:00:42 AM »
There's so many guys now who are 6-10+ and can be effective at the perimeter that the value of a heavier 6-9/6-10 post is just not there anymore no matter how dominant in college. You have to have Bam Adebayo's athleticism or it's off to the 2nd tier leagues.
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Re: NBA combine
« Reply #113 on: June 23, 2023, 10:07:47 AM »
Quote from: spark mandrill on June 23, 2023, 09:46:44 AM
Couldn't be more thrilled for Podziemski.  Made a big, risky bet on himself and it paid off.  What a story.  Hope he has a ton of success there - learning under Nash and Curry should be great for him.
Yup. Seems like an ideal set up for him with HOFs around him and limited pressure in his first year.

Should also be a huge selling point for schools like St Mary's poaching reserve players at big conference schools.
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« Reply #114 on: June 23, 2023, 10:13:58 AM »
Yep.  Surely Podziemski isn't the only guy around who could show out if he's given the chance to shoot 15 times a game.  And realistically even if he'd stayed four years and played a ton, he was probably not going to get that at Illinois.

We've had one guy shoot as much as Podziemski did this year since 97-98 - Ayo in his All American year.
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Re: NBA combine
« Reply #115 on: June 23, 2023, 10:19:18 AM »
Speaking which, Tevian Jones had reportedly signed an Exhibit 10 deal with the Pelicans after being the go-to scorer at Southern Utah.
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« Reply #116 on: June 23, 2023, 10:22:35 AM »
One thing about NIL and the pass for transfers is everybody thought it’d hurt the small schools. It appears that they now have a path to sell kids with opportunities like what Podz and Jones got. This stuff all tends to work itself out…

Might work well for Curbelo too…
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Re: NBA combine
« Reply #117 on: June 23, 2023, 10:24:24 AM »
Quote from: spark mandrill on June 23, 2023, 10:13:58 AM
Yep.  Surely Podziemski isn't the only guy around who could show out if he's given the chance to shoot 15 times a game.  And realistically even if he'd stayed four years and played a ton, he was probably not going to get that at Illinois.

We've had one guy shoot as much as Podziemski did this year since 97-98 - Ayo in his All American year.

The kid shot 44% from 3 with 2.5 makes a game. He should have been out there shooting threes for us his freshman year especially during all those Underwood shooting droughts and brick fests that we've seen.
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« Reply #118 on: June 23, 2023, 10:28:27 AM »
Quote from: Beach Bum on June 23, 2023, 10:24:24 AM
The kid shot 44% from 3 with 2.5 makes a game. He should have been out there shooting threes for us his freshman year especially during all those Underwood shooting droughts and brick fests that we've seen.

If he would've actually made the threes he got when he played he probably would've.  But he shot 23% on his attempts here.

I don't remember very many people here clamoring for Podziemski to get a bunch of minutes over Melendez, who was playing really well, in a year we won the conference on the final play of the season.  Hindsight's 20/20.
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Re: NBA combine
« Reply #119 on: June 23, 2023, 10:33:47 AM »
Quote from: illinicalvin on June 22, 2023, 09:22:25 PM
Podz goes 1st round to GS. It happens to every big program but what a colossal whiff.

I think something that hasn't been discussed is that who knows if Podz would have ever grown as a player or even displayed any kind of inkling as far as what he did at Santa Clara if he had stayed under BU and his coaching/constant ranting style?

Not saying BU style is right or wrong...I have my thoughts on it though....but if he is rough/hard nosed/in your face all the time relentlessly, some players just don't respond. I think this is one reason he wants to get old and stay old, older mature players "know" how to handle the pressures.

Podz just picked up basketball because he thought baseball was boring and took the challenge. His interest level possibly didn't align with having to submit to a regimen like BU was expecting...he just wanted to ball in other words, which is what Santa Clara provided him.

Either way it is old news, good for the kid, hope he flourishes and Kerr is the type that can make it happen imo. Just keep Green away from him....LOL.
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