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Re: 2023 2.0 Portal Thread
« Reply #225 on: April 26, 2023, 05:16:03 PM »
Quote from: spark mandrill on April 26, 2023, 04:48:53 PM
It's a fun site for college basketball nerds with analytics and tools where you can, as he alluded to, 'hypothetically' add guys you're recruiting to the roster to see how it affects your metrics/rankings.

So you can go in, look at our rankings right now, then add RayJ and TSJ to see what we "would" be if both guys end up on the roster.  Think Torvik currently has us 35-40, and those two would move us up to 11 according to Piper, via JRock.

His metrics aren't terrible, and it's definitely fun to play around with.  I don't think any single metric is the end-all though.  I do think Torvik and KenPom (the two most notable holistic CBB metrics) both do a reasonably good, but not perfect, job separating how good a team really is from who they play etc.

The same Torvik that ranked Illinois #14 last year preseason based on their roster.

Finished 50th.

It’s all moot bc Shannon ain’t coming back anyway
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Re: 2023 2.0 Portal Thread
« Reply #226 on: April 26, 2023, 05:20:02 PM »
Quote from: ILLINICHIEF on April 26, 2023, 04:49:47 PM
A small Norway town with special rain coats.

I like the orange one myself...https://sioen-ppc.com/en/protective-clothing/torvik,  :-*

If only the United States had the same demographics as Norway…all our problems would be gone.
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Re: 2023 2.0 Portal Thread
« Reply #227 on: April 26, 2023, 05:27:40 PM »
The things Illinois fans will convince themselves of to try to feel positive about this trainwreck…

Let’s take 3 mid-major players, and then add in a mediocre PF from another college, and then let’s put them altogether for exactly 8 months to see if they can gel as a team. Then next year they are all gone and do it over again.

Underwood is basically running a JUCO program.  That’s how JUCOs operate. Thrown together teams each year.
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Re: 2023 2.0 Portal Thread
« Reply #228 on: April 26, 2023, 05:45:03 PM »
It would be great here if most of us were Norwegian Lutherans? Why not Swedish or Danish Lutherans? Or Germans?

Right wing racists have told me we can't have social democracy here because we have too much racial and ethnic diversity.

I do think it makes it more challenging, because it can aggravate greed, selfishness, jealousy, and envy. We don't mind so much our tax dollars helping those who look and talk like us and go to our church. But we don't like helping the micks, wops, polacks, spicks, papists, darkies, nips, chinks, a-rabs, red dots ...

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Re: 2023 2.0 Portal Thread
« Reply #229 on: April 26, 2023, 05:49:02 PM »
Quote from: Dominic on April 26, 2023, 05:27:40 PM
The things Illinois fans will convince themselves of to try to feel positive about this trainwreck…

Let’s take 3 mid-major players, and then add in a mediocre PF from another college, and then let’s put them altogether for exactly 8 months to see if they can gel as a team. Then next year they are all gone and do it over again.

Underwood is basically running a JUCO program.  That’s how JUCOs operate. Thrown together teams each year.

Yeah nobody should hang banners for a 9 seed one and done but calling it a trainwreck is just asinine. Which of course is nothing out of the ordinary coming from you.
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Re: 2023 2.0 Portal Thread
« Reply #230 on: April 26, 2023, 06:02:24 PM »
Quote from: Miles Leonard on April 26, 2023, 05:49:02 PM
Yeah nobody should hang banners for a 9 seed one and done but calling it a trainwreck is just asinine. Which of course is nothing out of the ordinary coming from you.

When a 9 seed one and done is the peak performance for this type of team building, it’s a trainwreck.

It’s JUCO basketball. In JUCO, it’s common for players to bounce from JUCO to JUCO and each season is a completely different roster/team. 

It reminds me of when Tim Beckman tried to bring in a bunch of JUCOs.  It didn’t work bc college sports takes more than throwing together a group of guys for 1 season.  Especially if they are role players anyway
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Re: 2023 2.0 Portal Thread
« Reply #231 on: April 26, 2023, 06:06:34 PM »
Quote from: spark mandrill on April 26, 2023, 03:19:51 PM
By any reasonable accounting, he has turned us around.  There’s no way around that objective fact. 

I’m nowhere near naive enough to think that a S16 would change the tone of people who literally can’t even acknowledge that he turned us completely around from a complete after thought who missed the tournament more than they made it to a nationally relevant every year tournament type program.  Obviously you will just move the goalposts.

Isn't illinois a top 20 program historically? 

Sorry but I expect more than getting into the tourney. 
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Re: 2023 2.0 Portal Thread
« Reply #232 on: April 26, 2023, 06:06:39 PM »
Quote from: ThePAMan on April 26, 2023, 04:50:09 PM
And people accuse us of wasting our time here.

Ok that’s funny…
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Re: 2023 2.0 Portal Thread
« Reply #233 on: April 26, 2023, 06:07:19 PM »
Quote from: Jobu on April 26, 2023, 04:56:59 PM
So basically, what you’re saying here, is that Tempo wants Underwood fired.

Not directly. Just lumping me in to that crowd…
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Re: 2023 2.0 Portal Thread
« Reply #234 on: April 26, 2023, 06:08:11 PM »
Quote from: Dominic on April 26, 2023, 05:20:02 PM
If only the United States had the same demographics as Norway…all our problems would be gone.

Wow; that’s is uh, quite racist.
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Re: 2023 2.0 Portal Thread
« Reply #235 on: April 26, 2023, 06:08:48 PM »
Quote from: FaninCa on April 26, 2023, 06:06:34 PM
Isn't illinois a top 20 program historically? 

Sorry but I expect more than getting into the tourney.

No better than ASU historically. Same program essentially.
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Re: 2023 2.0 Portal Thread
« Reply #236 on: April 26, 2023, 06:11:17 PM »
Quote from: illiniray on April 26, 2023, 05:45:03 PM

We don't mind so much our tax dollars helping those who look and talk like us and go to our church. But we don't like helping the micks, wops, polacks, spicks, papists, darkies, nips, chinks, a-rabs, red dots ...

Wow, that’s racist…
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Re: 2023 2.0 Portal Thread
« Reply #237 on: April 26, 2023, 06:13:42 PM »
Quote from: illiniray on April 26, 2023, 05:45:03 PM


Right wing racists have told me we can't have social democracy here because we have too much racial and ethnic diversity.


Violent Crime Rate:

Nigeria: 121.83 (murder rate per million people)

Norway: 5.93 (murder rate per million people)


Please explain why Nigeria is 20x violent place than Norway. 

I’ll give you a hint.

It starts with “BL” and ends with “ACK PEOPLE”
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Re: 2023 2.0 Portal Thread
« Reply #238 on: April 26, 2023, 06:15:33 PM »
Quote from: Dominic on April 26, 2023, 06:13:42 PM
Violent Crime Rate:

Nigeria: 121.83 (murder rate per million people)

Norway: 5.93 (murder rate per million people)


Please explain why Nigeria is 20x violent place than Norway. 

I’ll give you a hint.

It starts with “BL” and ends with “ACK PEOPLE”

Poverty? Colonialist history maybe? Lack of resources? Corrupt government?
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Re: 2023 2.0 Portal Thread
« Reply #239 on: April 26, 2023, 06:25:44 PM »
Quote from: Dominic on April 26, 2023, 06:13:42 PM

Please explain why Nigeria is 20x violent place than Norway. 

I’ll give you a hint.

It starts with “BL” and ends with “ACK PEOPLE”

Hey guys, I’m beginning to suspect Dom doesn’t care much for black people.

Which is odd given his love for basketball.
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