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Re: 2023 2.0 Portal Thread
« Reply #210 on: April 26, 2023, 04:38:26 PM »
I don't think Hawkins is as crucial as TSJ.  Gurrier pretty much replaces Hawkins.  And damosk is better than Meyer.
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Re: 2023 2.0 Portal Thread
« Reply #211 on: April 26, 2023, 04:40:55 PM »
Quote from: spark mandrill on April 26, 2023, 04:12:31 PM
I'm sure when RayJ commits there'll be some dumb reason Truth was actually right, if you just pretend.

If RayJ and TSJ join the current roster I think it was #11 per Torvik I heard.  That was Piper.
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Re: 2023 2.0 Portal Thread
« Reply #212 on: April 26, 2023, 04:43:02 PM »
Not all that worried about the preseason Torvik rating myself, but I suppose I'd rather it be higher than lower.
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Re: 2023 2.0 Portal Thread
« Reply #213 on: April 26, 2023, 04:44:05 PM »
How accurate has this The Torvik been historically?
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Re: 2023 2.0 Portal Thread
« Reply #214 on: April 26, 2023, 04:44:45 PM »
Quote from: spark mandrill on April 26, 2023, 09:04:18 AM

If you were a coach and you knew that the last guy had taken over a bad program, instantly resurrected it, and the entire fanbase turned on him pretty much right away - you’d probably think other schools were pretty appealing.  You’re very likely to be fired here no matter how good your results are, unless you make the F4 every year.  My guess is if Underwood made the F4 every year but didn’t win the title the same people would want him fired.

You don’t think this is greatly exaggerated? We’ve fired two coaches in my lifetime (or since Henson anyway). Both were fired after multiple tournament misses.
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Re: 2023 2.0 Portal Thread
« Reply #215 on: April 26, 2023, 04:45:19 PM »
What’s a Torvik?
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« Reply #216 on: April 26, 2023, 04:47:55 PM »
Quote from: Tempo34 on April 26, 2023, 04:44:45 PM
You don’t think this is greatly exaggerated? We’ve fired two coaches in my lifetime (or since Henson anyway). Both were fired after multiple tournament misses.

I don't think it's exaggerated, no.  And it's definitely not accusing you of wanting him fired in ANY way, which is what you originally claimed.
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« Reply #217 on: April 26, 2023, 04:48:53 PM »
Quote from: Tempo34 on April 26, 2023, 04:45:19 PM
What’s a Torvik?

It's a fun site for college basketball nerds with analytics and tools where you can, as he alluded to, 'hypothetically' add guys you're recruiting to the roster to see how it affects your metrics/rankings.

So you can go in, look at our rankings right now, then add RayJ and TSJ to see what we "would" be if both guys end up on the roster.  Think Torvik currently has us 35-40, and those two would move us up to 11 according to Piper, via JRock.

His metrics aren't terrible, and it's definitely fun to play around with.  I don't think any single metric is the end-all though.  I do think Torvik and KenPom (the two most notable holistic CBB metrics) both do a reasonably good, but not perfect, job separating how good a team really is from who they play etc.
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Re: 2023 2.0 Portal Thread
« Reply #218 on: April 26, 2023, 04:49:47 PM »
Quote from: Tempo34 on April 26, 2023, 04:45:19 PM
What’s a Torvik?

A small Norway town with special rain coats.

I like the orange one myself...https://sioen-ppc.com/en/protective-clothing/torvik,  :-*
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Re: 2023 2.0 Portal Thread
« Reply #219 on: April 26, 2023, 04:50:09 PM »
And people accuse us of wasting our time here.
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Re: 2023 2.0 Portal Thread
« Reply #220 on: April 26, 2023, 04:52:59 PM »
Quote from: ILLINICHIEF on April 26, 2023, 04:49:47 PM
A small Norway town with special rain coats.

I like the orange one myself...https://sioen-ppc.com/en/protective-clothing/torvik,  :-*

They look nice.
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Re: 2023 2.0 Portal Thread
« Reply #221 on: April 26, 2023, 04:56:59 PM »
Quote from: spark mandrill on April 26, 2023, 04:48:53 PM
It's a fun site for college basketball nerds with analytics and tools where you can, as he alluded to, 'hypothetically' add guys you're recruiting to the roster to see how it affects your metrics/rankings.

So you can go in, look at our rankings right now, then add RayJ and TSJ to see what we "would" be if both guys end up on the roster.  Think Torvik currently has us 35-40, and those two would move us up to 11 according to Piper, via JRock.

His metrics aren't terrible, and it's definitely fun to play around with.  I don't think any single metric is the end-all though.  I do think Torvik and KenPom (the two most notable holistic CBB metrics) both do a reasonably good, but not perfect, job separating how good a team really is from who they play etc.

So basically, what you’re saying here, is that Tempo wants Underwood fired.
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Re: 2023 2.0 Portal Thread
« Reply #222 on: April 26, 2023, 05:02:38 PM »
Quote from: spark mandrill on April 26, 2023, 04:47:55 PM
I don't think it's exaggerated, no.  And it's definitely not accusing you of wanting him fired in ANY way, which is what you originally claimed.

Again, I just wish you’d stop ranting about “people wanting him fired” in specific responses to me after I criticize him. It’s happened numerous occasions. People can be unhappy with some of the results and not be wanting his head.
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Re: 2023 2.0 Portal Thread
« Reply #223 on: April 26, 2023, 05:07:39 PM »
We can be unhappy about how this year went and not want him fired.
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Re: 2023 2.0 Portal Thread
« Reply #224 on: April 26, 2023, 05:11:48 PM »
I just feel like if i kept responding to you with a position you haven’t taken, you’d be like “Hey man, don’t do that.”
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