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Re: do illinois loyalty "insiders" actually have info
« Reply #645 on: May 24, 2023, 11:01:52 AM »
Quote from: ILLINICHIEF on May 24, 2023, 09:04:19 AM
According to the Utes page, Dennis is still up in the air, but the ILLINI are now on the outside of this recruitment. Very unfortunate, and also very poor decision by this kid imo for draft prospects next year as well. The level of play is nowhere near the same, and they also have a lead guard returning that although as the article states is not eye popping, he did average 32 min a game and is dependable ( he will play still alot).


https://247sports.com/college/utah/longformarticle/utah-utes-basketball-a-look-at-the-future-of-the-runnin-utes-210615860/#2172204

More factors which should fall in Illinois' favor at this point. Which makes one wonder why Illinois is on the outside looking in. Maybe it is Underachiever!?
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Re: do illinois loyalty "insiders" actually have info
« Reply #646 on: May 24, 2023, 11:03:38 AM »
Quote from: spark mandrill on May 24, 2023, 08:39:21 AM
I gotta say, it's mostly my fault.  For a decade or more I've attempted to inject some thought and nuance into these discussions, to try to point out that thinking about a gray situation in black and white is stupid - especially when we as fans have basically no information about the specifics of a recruitment.

Tempo is obviously not going to get it, so I should simply stop trying the "think about it this way" abstract thought thing.  He cannot examine his own biases in that way, he's not capable.

He can't consider that maybe his passing interest in a Chicago school is the same as a non-native Illinois person's interest in Illinois basketball.  Just doesn't compute to him.  That person surely thinks just like he does, it's only logical!

Insists Illinois is actually way better than programs with similar historical results because of their 'scope'.  When asked what that means specifically, crickets.  "You just know!" type stuff.  "It's just true".  That's the evidence.  It just is.  There's no question whatsoever in my mind that he thinks we're closer to a program like Duke with 17 Final Fours than a program like Utah.  Because of "the scope".

Incapable of entertaining an idea without subscribing to it.

Yes, you have created a monster.
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Re: do illinois loyalty "insiders" actually have info
« Reply #647 on: May 24, 2023, 11:05:44 AM »
Quote from: sharethejuice on May 24, 2023, 09:25:55 AM
I’ve heard in the neighborhood of $300,000 difference between Utah offer and our offer …

From which Loyalty insider?
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Re: do illinois loyalty "insiders" actually have info
« Reply #648 on: May 24, 2023, 11:10:56 AM »
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Re: do illinois loyalty "insiders" actually have info
« Reply #649 on: May 24, 2023, 11:13:21 AM »
Quote from: spark mandrill on May 24, 2023, 10:56:24 AM
Oh, he's a Bears fan?

An even worse look for Underwood!

Assume you found some pro-Illini tweets too right?  A guy from Oswego has most likely tweeted positively about Illinois basketball in the last two years.

I explained that I didn’t scroll back 5-6 years. He tweets a lot. But we could never assume there’s a good chance he roots for local teams! That’s just assuming too much!
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Re: do illinois loyalty "insiders" actually have info
« Reply #650 on: May 24, 2023, 11:14:10 AM »
I wouldn’t expect he was tweeting pro-Illini stuff while playing at another school. But he tweets a lot. So can’t say for sure.
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Re: do illinois loyalty "insiders" actually have info
« Reply #651 on: May 24, 2023, 11:17:35 AM »
Quote from: Tempo34 on May 24, 2023, 11:13:21 AM
I explained that I didn’t scroll back 5-6 years. He tweets a lot. But we could never assume there’s a good chance he roots for local teams! That’s just assuming too much!

If he thinks The Wingback should have been an All-Pro last year I'm glad he is not coming here.
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Re: do illinois loyalty "insiders" actually have info
« Reply #652 on: May 24, 2023, 11:18:05 AM »
Quote from: Tempo34 on May 24, 2023, 11:10:56 AM


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Re: do illinois loyalty "insiders" actually have info
« Reply #653 on: May 24, 2023, 11:26:48 AM »
Quote from: Tempo34 on May 24, 2023, 11:13:21 AM
I explained that I didn’t scroll back 5-6 years. He tweets a lot. But we could never assume there’s a good chance he roots for local teams! That’s just assuming too much!


So that's a no, you didn't find any pro-Illini tweets.

I kind of figured.
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Re: do illinois loyalty "insiders" actually have info
« Reply #654 on: May 24, 2023, 11:27:14 AM »
Quote from: Tempo34 on May 24, 2023, 11:14:10 AM
I wouldn’t expect he was tweeting pro-Illini stuff while playing at another school. But he tweets a lot. So can’t say for sure.

Huh?

He's a mid-major kid from Oswego, there's a good chance he has tweeted pro-Illini stuff.
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Re: do illinois loyalty "insiders" actually have info
« Reply #655 on: May 24, 2023, 11:31:21 AM »
Quote from: spark mandrill on May 24, 2023, 11:27:14 AM
Huh?

He's a mid-major kid from Oswego, there's a good chance he has tweeted pro-Illini stuff.

Good stuff.
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Re: do illinois loyalty "insiders" actually have info
« Reply #656 on: May 24, 2023, 12:25:55 PM »
Quote from: spark mandrill on May 24, 2023, 11:26:48 AM

So that's a no, you didn't find any pro-Illini tweets.

I kind of figured.

Yeah, sorry I didn’t check all the hundreds of tweets.
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Re: do illinois loyalty "insiders" actually have info
« Reply #657 on: May 24, 2023, 12:26:53 PM »
But you’re right, assuming there’s a decent chance he roots for local teams is just assuming too much.
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Re: do illinois loyalty "insiders" actually have info
« Reply #658 on: May 24, 2023, 12:27:54 PM »
Quote from: spark mandrill on May 24, 2023, 11:27:14 AM
Huh?

He's a mid-major kid from Oswego, there's a good chance he has tweeted pro-Illini stuff.

Please never accuse me of being the one who argues in bad faith again. Thanks…
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Re: do illinois loyalty "insiders" actually have info
« Reply #659 on: May 24, 2023, 12:28:33 PM »
At least own up that both of us take liberties while paraphrasing.
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