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Re: who leaves
« Reply #165 on: April 03, 2023, 03:58:41 PM »
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« Reply #166 on: April 03, 2023, 04:01:04 PM »
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Re: who leaves
« Reply #167 on: April 03, 2023, 04:24:46 PM »
I expected more from Melendez this year..oh well
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« Reply #168 on: April 03, 2023, 07:13:32 PM »
Kinda sucks as he has great instincts and could make a huge jump next year.

The silver lining is we can absolutely guarantee 30+ mpg to a top scoring wing now.
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Re: who leaves
« Reply #169 on: April 03, 2023, 07:53:30 PM »
Well that sucks.
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Re: who leaves
« Reply #170 on: April 03, 2023, 07:57:46 PM »
Quote from: Gokuwearsorange/blue on April 03, 2023, 07:53:30 PM
Well that sucks.

Standard response is "We'll be better without him"
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Re: who leaves
« Reply #171 on: April 03, 2023, 08:01:47 PM »
He'll be better without us.
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« Reply #172 on: April 03, 2023, 09:39:04 PM »
Quote from: ThePAMan on April 03, 2023, 07:57:46 PM
Standard response is "We'll be better without him"

This year he was just a guy, thought he'd be better after his first season, oh well
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Re: who leaves
« Reply #173 on: April 03, 2023, 10:33:02 PM »
Quote from: Mn on April 03, 2023, 08:01:47 PM
He'll be better without us.

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« Reply #174 on: April 03, 2023, 10:48:35 PM »
The 3 losses so far are minimal if we really are honest about it:

Freshman PG-Scorer first/facilitator second/Had issues with coaching-team third
Wing Forward-Best promise on team/incredible athlete/marginal offensive player/didn't seem to adapt and improve consistantly.
Backup to the Backup in reality Center who at best should have always been at like an Eastern Illinois or something.

We have not really lost that much yet....that said, I wished we could have kept at least RJ, due to us still losing Hawk/TSJ or both...then we will have lost alot, and IF that happens, regardless of the portal, we may very well be waiting all off season to have a losing season next year.
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Re: who leaves
« Reply #175 on: April 04, 2023, 08:22:36 AM »
There might be a message for the staff after bringing in what was said to be the #2 transfer group, and now losing 2 potential starters and 50 minutes of floor time.
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Re: who leaves
« Reply #176 on: April 04, 2023, 11:44:01 AM »
Quote from: Mn on April 04, 2023, 08:22:36 AM
There might be a message for the staff after bringing in what was said to be the #2 transfer group, and now losing 2 potential starters and 50 minutes of floor time.

These kids all know each other and talk. They talk in the AAU system in HS, and they sure as hell talk once they are in programs.
Underwood fucked himself and the program this year with his antics and the culture being a mess.

The balance of power has shifted and these guys can get big NIL money any number of places and not have to listen to a crazy angry fuck who has never advanced in the tourney in 7 tries.

He needs to find a couple kids willing to take a chance on him and then repair the program reputation.

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Re: who leaves
« Reply #177 on: April 04, 2023, 11:59:15 AM »
Quote from: ILLINICHIEF on April 03, 2023, 10:48:35 PM
The 3 losses so far are minimal if we really are honest about it:

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« Reply #178 on: April 04, 2023, 12:23:14 PM »
Quote from: Lkdog on April 04, 2023, 11:44:01 AM
These kids all know each other and talk. They talk in the AAU system in HS, and they sure as hell talk once they are in programs.
Underwood fucked himself and the program this year with his antics and the culture being a mess.

The balance of power has shifted and these guys can get big NIL money any number of places and not have to listen to a crazy angry fuck who has never advanced in the tourney in 7 tries.

He needs to find a couple kids willing to take a chance on him and then repair the program reputation.

The ILLINI program will have to go the route of the no yelling Army Basic Training IMO. The ranting/overblown reactions/temper tantrums on the side line has played out I am afraid. Recruits in college need motivation, but we are in a different world, like it or not. I think it's BS really, but it is what it is moving forward. BU best find another way to motivate and teach, or Whitman may have to make a decision that neither wants to happen.

I mean look at the Final Four Teams. Not one coach (May/Hurley/Larranaga/Dutcher) were any way shape or form even near BU sideline/practice/media press conference antics.

Even if you get to the Elite Eight this year....(the above 4 + Tang/Few/Terry/McDermott) None are even close to BU overall standards of conduct/demeanor on the court, I would imagine practice are just as rough if not worse, since cameras are off.

Not sure there is a happy medium anymore, but I do know right or wrong the Bobby Knight coaching days for the most part are done, too many easier ways out nowadays, why subject yourself as a 18-20 yr old to this?
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Re: who leaves
« Reply #179 on: April 04, 2023, 12:27:30 PM »
Given that Underwood's yelling was such a problem, why do you suspect one of our team leaders went public saying he should've yelled at them more?

It's at least worth noting that most of the Final Four coaches also don't have Underwood's record.  Larranaga may not yell, but we'd have fired him years ago.
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