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Re: Coaching hot seat
« Reply #165 on: March 22, 2023, 03:55:45 PM »
Quote from: spark mandrill on March 22, 2023, 03:52:36 PM
I figured you were smart enough - especially after I wrote 'I kid' twice - to know I was just pokin' a little fun.

I love that you mention Tang, a guy with one year coaching who will have to rebuild his entire roster next year.  Maybe he'll turn out great, but would be a horrible decision to hire him based on one season.  If he is consistently in the tournament then he will obviously be in hot demand but he's a long way from that.  People thought Hubert Davis was awesome coming into this season, and then he took the preseason #1 team and missed the tourney with them.

I knew you were kidding. That’s why I  said “haha.” I wasn’t sniping at you. My comment was aimed at PAMan and the like. My apologies for not making that clearer.
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Re: Coaching hot seat
« Reply #166 on: March 22, 2023, 03:56:11 PM »
Quote from: spark mandrill on March 22, 2023, 03:52:36 PM
I love that you mention Tang, a guy with one year coaching who will have to rebuild his entire roster next year.  Maybe he'll turn out great, but would be a horrible decision to hire him based on one season.  If he is consistently in the tournament then he will obviously be in hot demand but he's a long way from that.

You missed a "he could use 3-5 more seasons" reference here.
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Re: Coaching hot seat
« Reply #167 on: March 22, 2023, 03:57:15 PM »
Quote from: Judge Judy on March 22, 2023, 03:54:47 PM
But yes, Spark, I agree with you on Underwood and our fan base.

He is going to be pissed you agree with him.
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Re: Coaching hot seat
« Reply #168 on: March 22, 2023, 03:57:36 PM »
Quote from: Judge Judy on March 22, 2023, 03:54:47 PM
But yes, Spark, I agree with you on Underwood and our fan base. Although if he leaves I’m in the Tempo camp of go get Sean Miller and I won’t be upset.

This'll be the discussion right up until we hire the dude from Furman or wherever.

We do this every single time we have an opening.
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Re: Coaching hot seat
« Reply #169 on: March 22, 2023, 03:57:50 PM »
Quote from: ThePAMan on March 22, 2023, 03:56:11 PM
You missed a "he could use 3-5 more seasons" reference here.

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Re: Coaching hot seat
« Reply #170 on: March 22, 2023, 03:59:31 PM »
Quote from: spark mandrill on March 22, 2023, 03:57:36 PM
This'll be the discussion right up until we hire the dude from Furman or wherever.

We do this every single time we have an opening.

If Guenther, Jr. is not in fact "Guenther, Jr." as a few have proclaimed, this should not be an issue.
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Re: Coaching hot seat
« Reply #171 on: March 22, 2023, 03:59:56 PM »
Quote from: spark mandrill on March 22, 2023, 03:21:03 PM
And yet, nobody seemed to know it until he played for Underwood and went from being an Omar Payne level recruit when he arrived on campus to a two-time All American with his jersey in the rafters when he left.

Occasionally somewhat unheralded guys come in and shine right away. Wasn’t Alonzo Mourning like the 96th rated recruit in the country coming out?
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Re: Coaching hot seat
« Reply #172 on: March 22, 2023, 04:00:58 PM »
Quote from: spark mandrill on March 22, 2023, 03:57:36 PM
This'll be the discussion right up until we hire the dude from Furman or wherever.

We do this every single time we have an opening.

Our fanbase assuming anything about Underwood on the hot seat is delusional thinking.

I do think Miller would be attainable and a great option. My gut tells me it’d probably be some m’fer from Furman though much like the Groce hire.
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Re: Coaching hot seat
« Reply #173 on: March 22, 2023, 04:07:07 PM »
And it's possible the dude from Furman (or wherever) is great!  Those guys turn out great sometimes.  I liked the Groce hire okay despite him not being good enough here, but we were in a very different scenario that last Weber year than we are right now.

It's just a huge, huge risk, with significantly more likely downsides than upsides.

To get deep in the tournament consistently, step #1 is to make the tournament consistently.  We haven't had a coach do that pre-Underwood since Self (whose tournament success here would also probably be getting hammered on Twitter right now - "why are we trending down!?").  The idea that we can just throw Underwood on the scrap pile and we'll get a guy who can for sure do that is possible, but FAR from likely.  We're much more likely to get a guy who can't even get that step #1 done.
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Re: Coaching hot seat
« Reply #174 on: March 22, 2023, 04:08:29 PM »
Quote from: spark mandrill on March 22, 2023, 04:07:07 PM
And it's possible the dude from Furman (or wherever) is great!  Those guys turn out great sometimes.  I liked the Groce hire okay despite him not being good enough here, but we were in a very different scenario that last Weber year than we are right now.

It's just a huge, huge risk, with significantly more likely downsides than upsides.

To get deep in the tournament consistently, step #1 is to make the tournament consistently.  We haven't had a coach do that pre-Underwood since Self (whose tournament success here would also probably be getting hammered on Twitter right now).  The idea that we can just throw Underwood on the scrap pile and we'll get a guy who can for sure do that is possible, but FAR from likely.  We're much more likely to get a guy who can't even get that step #1 done.

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Re: Coaching hot seat
« Reply #175 on: March 22, 2023, 04:10:34 PM »
Underwood's agent is exploring other job options. He has done this every year and has gotten BU raises, extensions. BU might also be unhappy about boosters meddling in and possibly undermining his program.

The AD has already done everything reasonable he can to keep BU here. At this point JW is exploring possible candidates in case BU departs. Loyalty Insiders imply there is mutual interest involving SM.
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Re: Coaching hot seat
« Reply #176 on: March 22, 2023, 04:17:04 PM »
Loyalty insiders, lol.  Some people never learn.

Who members the whole Cliff Alexander fiasco on there? Or Illijah? Member the full of shit "insiders?"

I member.
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Re: Coaching hot seat
« Reply #177 on: March 22, 2023, 04:24:13 PM »
Meanwhile, all three loyalty Insiders think there will be staff shake ups, with at least TA, AF, CF, and probably GA back. This led to wild speculation about OA replacing GA. The insiders did say BU and OA are friends; which was taken as coded confirmation. Then Indy stirred the SM pot.
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Re: Coaching hot seat
« Reply #178 on: March 22, 2023, 04:24:29 PM »
Quote from: Jobu on March 22, 2023, 04:17:04 PM
Loyalty insiders, lol.  Some people never learn.

Who members the whole Cliff Alexander fiasco on there? Or Illijah? Member the full of shit "insiders?"

I member.

Breal is over there with this stuff.
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Re: Coaching hot seat
« Reply #179 on: March 22, 2023, 04:26:06 PM »
Quote from: ThePAMan on March 22, 2023, 04:24:29 PM
Breal is over there with this stuff.

That’s fine. I’m guessing he’s also full of shit.
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