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WTF is wrong with the left?

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Re: WTF is wrong with the left?
« Reply #1590 on: November 11, 2021, 11:36:55 AM »
About a week ago, I listed a large handful of progressive policies. All of which Biden hasn’t fought for or ignored. The squad is not a significant power broker in his agenda. Only Fox News watchers would think so.
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Re: WTF is wrong with the left?
« Reply #1591 on: November 11, 2021, 11:38:30 AM »
I guess CNN, MSNBC and such aren’t that much better. They all serve the corporate masters’ agenda.
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"He commented more than once that, 'You know, Hitler did some good things, too,'" Kelly recalled to The Times. Kelly said he would usually quash the conversation by saying "nothing (Hitler) did, you could argue, was good," but that Trump would occasionally bring up the topic again.
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Re: WTF is wrong with the left?
« Reply #1592 on: November 11, 2021, 11:41:45 AM »
Quote from: Tempo34 on November 11, 2021, 11:13:40 AM
How do you figure he “doesn’t give a crap” about inflation? Is he supposed to wave a magic want to make it go away?

2 of the biggest issues he can try and impact:

1. Getting shit off boats.
2. Getting shit from ports to market, i.e. trucking.

Get the National Guard mobilized to move all this shit where it needs to go.

He cannot do shit about the microchips, except try to bring more manufacturing here, which Murph and Q97 hate because they like slave labor building things cheaply so they can make huge profits.

But instead, we get him worrying about federal paid sick leave; free extended high school (community college); fucking over West VA; blah blah blah because that is what The Squad wants.

 https://www.cnbc.com/2021/11/09/inflation-concerns-democrats-hope-biden-spending-bills-win-over-voters.html

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In a recent NBC News poll, 57% of American said they disapprove of Biden’s handling of the economy, while just 40% said they approve. Meanwhile, an October Gallup study showed that 75% of Americans rate current economic conditions in the country as only fair (42%) or poor (33%), while 68% say the economy is worsening. Other polling shows that inflation and economic concerns are outpacing worries about Covid.

https://cis.org/Arthur/October-Polls-Show-Immigration-Top-Issue-and-Drag-Biden

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Just 25 percent approved of the president’s handling of immigration issues, compared to 65 percent who disapproved. Independent voters were more dour on the president’s immigration performance than respondents as a whole: 22 percent of Independents approved, compared to 70 percent who disapproved.

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This latest poll showed Biden’s support among likely independent voters has collapsed, with the majority indicating they’d support Trump over Biden.

“In 2020 exit polling, President Biden won independent voters by a 54 percent to 41 percent margin, J. Ann Selzer of Selzer & Company said in a news release. “If the election were held today, our poll shows former President Trump winning that group 45 percent to 28 percent. It is a massive shift in a demographic that helped carry Biden to victory less than two years ago.”

Just paving the way for President Trump 2.0 unless he tells those Squad losers to fuck off.

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Re: WTF is wrong with the left?
« Reply #1593 on: November 11, 2021, 11:43:07 AM »
Quote from: Tempo34 on November 11, 2021, 11:36:55 AM
About a week ago, I listed a large handful of progressive policies. All of which Biden hasn’t fought for or ignored. The squad is not a significant power broker in his agenda. Only Fox News watchers would think so.

Uh, a number of those fucks voted against the bipartisan bill. 13 GOP House members voted for it to get it to pass.

Do you actually pay attention to any of this?
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Re: WTF is wrong with the left?
« Reply #1594 on: November 11, 2021, 11:43:33 AM »
Quote from: Tempo34 on November 11, 2021, 11:38:30 AM
I guess CNN, MSNBC and such aren’t that much better. They all serve the corporate masters’ agenda.

I don't watch those losers either.
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Re: WTF is wrong with the left?
« Reply #1595 on: November 11, 2021, 12:42:27 PM »
Quote from: ThePAMan on November 11, 2021, 11:43:07 AM
Uh, a number of those fucks voted against the bipartisan bill. 13 GOP House members voted for it to get it to pass.

Do you actually pay attention to any of this?

They voted against it because it doesn’t contain what they want.
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Re: WTF is wrong with the left?
« Reply #1596 on: November 11, 2021, 12:48:50 PM »
Quote from: Tempo34 on November 11, 2021, 12:42:27 PM
They voted against it because it doesn’t contain what they want.

They voted against it because it was not tied to the BIF. We all know what happened here and why.
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Re: WTF is wrong with the left?
« Reply #1597 on: November 11, 2021, 12:52:37 PM »
Quote from: ThePAMan on November 11, 2021, 11:43:07 AM
Do you actually pay attention to any of this?
You gotta remember, his head is made out of meat 🥓🍖.
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Re: WTF is wrong with the left?
« Reply #1598 on: November 11, 2021, 01:30:25 PM »
Quote from: ThePAMan on November 11, 2021, 11:43:07 AM
Uh, a number of those fucks voted against the bipartisan bill. 13 GOP House members voted for it to get it to pass.

Do you actually pay attention to any of this?

The Squad lost.  They still have influence, but who do think will be leading the Congressional Progressive Caucus in the next round of high-level negotiations on the social safety net bill?  It’s pretty clear that Jayapal came out more powerful than AOC.

And there should be no surprise that BBB received some Republican support.  Though it was ugly, Nancy still knows how to count.

Also, I’m so old that I remember when infrastructure bills were always a huge bipartisan affair, that is until the GOP leaders lost all interest in a functioning government.  Everybody could “smell the meat a cookin’” from miles and miles away. 
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Re: WTF is wrong with the left?
« Reply #1599 on: November 11, 2021, 01:58:15 PM »
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Re: WTF is wrong with the left?
« Reply #1600 on: November 11, 2021, 02:01:50 PM »
Quote from: Mn on November 11, 2021, 01:58:15 PM
Joe said ......

https://twitter.com/i/status/1458885394922196996

Not sure it is covered up when he said it live on C-SPAN. At least he didn't use language used by certain rappers!
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Re: WTF is wrong with the left?
« Reply #1601 on: November 11, 2021, 02:02:28 PM »
Quote from: alum74 on November 11, 2021, 01:30:25 PM
The Squad lost.  They still have influence, but who do think will be leading the Congressional Progressive Caucus in the next round of high-level negotiations on the social safety net bill?  It’s pretty clear that Jayapal came out more powerful than AOC.

And there should be no surprise that BBB received some Republican support.  Though it was ugly, Nancy still knows how to count.

Also, I’m so old that I remember when infrastructure bills were always a huge bipartisan affair, that is until the GOP leaders lost all interest in a functioning government.  Everybody could “smell the meat a cookin’” from miles and miles away.

Trump could have had his version of the bill passed....
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Re: WTF is wrong with the left?
« Reply #1602 on: November 11, 2021, 02:32:10 PM »
Quote from: ThePAMan on November 11, 2021, 02:02:28 PM
Trump could have had his version of the bill passed....

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Re: WTF is wrong with the left?
« Reply #1603 on: November 11, 2021, 03:00:56 PM »
Quote from: ThePAMan on November 11, 2021, 11:41:45 AM
2 of the biggest issues he can try and impact:

1. Getting shit off boats.
2. Getting shit from ports to market, i.e. trucking.

Get the National Guard mobilized to move all this shit where it needs to go.

He cannot do shit about the microchips, except try to bring more manufacturing here, which Murph and Q97 hate because they like slave labor building things cheaply so they can make huge profits.

But instead, we get him worrying about federal paid sick leave; free extended high school (community college); fucking over West VA; blah blah blah because that is what The Squad wants.

 https://www.cnbc.com/2021/11/09/inflation-concerns-democrats-hope-biden-spending-bills-win-over-voters.html

https://cis.org/Arthur/October-Polls-Show-Immigration-Top-Issue-and-Drag-Biden

https://www.kcrg.com/2021/10/20/poll-president-biden-losing-support-independents-amid-concerns-over-economy-immigration/

Just paving the way for President Trump 2.0 unless he tells those Squad losers to fuck off.

What is your proposal regarding trucking? Trucks are a problem because of a labor shortage. Gets back into "pay the truckers more"

And sure, we can manufacture some things here, but semiconductors would be pretty low on my list. They aren't very labor intensive and that's not where the value add is, all you really get out of it is dealing with all the chemicals. There are a lot of places in the valley where small fabs are, and they are zoned really nutty because you don't want children anywhere near them.

All the money in semiconductors is in designing the chips or making the machinery that goes into the fabs, that's all done at places I can see out my window, AMAT, KLA Tencor, etc.
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Re: WTF is wrong with the left?
« Reply #1604 on: November 11, 2021, 03:02:54 PM »
The "one crane at the port" essay suggests it's not a labor shortage.
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