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WTF is wrong with the left?

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Re: WTF is wrong with the left?
« Reply #885 on: April 12, 2021, 05:04:54 PM »


ah yes the traditional Marxist way... get rich first, then help everyone else... lol
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Re: WTF is wrong with the left?
« Reply #886 on: April 12, 2021, 05:11:06 PM »
What took you so long to stumble across that story?
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Re: WTF is wrong with the left?
« Reply #887 on: April 12, 2021, 05:23:18 PM »
the three roots of corruption / depravity: greed / lust, hatred / anger, and ignorance / stupidity
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Re: WTF is wrong with the left?
« Reply #888 on: April 12, 2021, 05:26:54 PM »
Quote from: ThePAMan on April 12, 2021, 05:11:06 PM
What took you so long to stumble across that story?

been busy, got a new puppy
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Re: WTF is wrong with the left?
« Reply #889 on: April 12, 2021, 11:46:33 PM »
So Calvin and PAMan don’t live in the burbs?
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Re: WTF is wrong with the left?
« Reply #890 on: April 13, 2021, 07:02:04 AM »
Haha. I still have my stabbin' cabin in Jeff Frank's building!
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Re: WTF is wrong with the left?
« Reply #891 on: April 13, 2021, 10:18:17 AM »
Quote from: illiniray on April 12, 2021, 02:27:03 PM
I-74 with 2 Mahomet exits. I dunno if that was explicitly racism, but a load of money was made developing real estate. Well, yes, part of it was racism. They really did not even try very hard to hide it back in the day.

The more explicit racism was that freeways were specifically routed through areas that didn't have the political clout to keep their neighborhoods from being plowed over and split, and then have emissions and noise as part of the bargain.

When they wanted to build 580 and 980 through Oakland, they just did it. When they wanted to run x80 through Golden Gate Park in SF, the citizens said no way and the project died. The only added freeways that happened were the freeway extension of US-101 and I-280. Then when Hayes Valley started to gentrify, they tore down the Central Freeway, and after the earthquake they tore down the Embarcadero Freeway to set up the refurb of the ferry building serving Marin commuters.
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Re: WTF is wrong with the left?
« Reply #892 on: April 13, 2021, 10:28:10 AM »
Quote from: murphstahoe on April 13, 2021, 10:18:17 AM
The more explicit racism was that freeways were specifically routed through areas that didn't have the political clout to keep their neighborhoods from being plowed over and split, and then have emissions and noise as part of the bargain.

When they wanted to build 580 and 980 through Oakland, they just did it. When they wanted to run x80 through Golden Gate Park in SF, the citizens said no way and the project died. The only added freeways that happened were the freeway extension of US-101 and I-280. Then when Hayes Valley started to gentrify, they tore down the Central Freeway, and after the earthquake they tore down the Embarcadero Freeway to set up the refurb of the ferry building serving Marin commuters.

it really was just that the land was cheapest where the poors lived, whether that be black, asian, irish, italian, whatever, white flight wasn't quite there yet (but certianly accelerated after the interstates were completed) but they were usually the ones with the means to move out of poor neighborhoods in the first place.  It certainly wouldn't make sense to run an interstate through high value land being used to its largest potential already.
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Re: WTF is wrong with the left?
« Reply #893 on: April 13, 2021, 10:29:06 AM »
I feel like you're underselling Golden Gate Park, here.
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Re: WTF is wrong with the left?
« Reply #894 on: April 13, 2021, 10:29:45 AM »
https://thepostmillennial.com/nbc-white-lives-matter-protests

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keep going with this narrative guys, its really useful
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Re: WTF is wrong with the left?
« Reply #895 on: April 13, 2021, 10:34:21 AM »
Quote from: ILLove1997 on April 13, 2021, 10:28:10 AM
it really was just that the land was cheapest where the poors lived, whether that be black, asian, irish, italian, whatever, white flight wasn't quite there yet (but certianly accelerated after the interstates were completed) but they were usually the ones with the means to move out of poor neighborhoods in the first place.  It certainly wouldn't make sense to run an interstate through high value land being used to its largest potential already.

For these freeways - there wasn't "land", there was "housing". It was cheapest because lower income people didn't have the power to stop the takings, nor sue for reasonable compensation for the taking of their houses to tear them down and build a freeway.
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Re: WTF is wrong with the left?
« Reply #896 on: April 13, 2021, 11:01:48 AM »
Reminds me of the old Cheers episode where Cliff’s mom has her house taken by eminent domain
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Re: WTF is wrong with the left?
« Reply #897 on: April 13, 2021, 11:06:21 AM »
Quote from: murphstahoe on April 13, 2021, 10:34:21 AM
For these freeways - there wasn't "land", there was "housing". It was cheapest because lower income people didn't have the power to stop the takings, nor sue for reasonable compensation for the taking of their houses to tear them down and build a freeway.

no it was cheapest because it cost the least to buy it with eminent domain, most of them rented anyway, and well lower income housing is cheapest due to the land under it being the cheapest...
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Re: WTF is wrong with the left?
« Reply #898 on: April 13, 2021, 11:16:31 AM »
Quote from: ILLove1997 on April 13, 2021, 10:29:45 AM
https://thepostmillennial.com/nbc-white-lives-matter-protests

How do you manage to consistently cite the least credible sources? It's like a gift.
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Re: WTF is wrong with the left?
« Reply #899 on: April 13, 2021, 11:28:31 AM »
Quote from: fucking on April 13, 2021, 11:16:31 AM
How do you manage to consistently cite the least credible sources? It's like a gift.

Its a commentary of a story that is literally in the story https://www.nbcnews.com/tech/tech-news/white-lives-matter-rallies-flop-hardly-anyone-shows-rcna650

sorry that its not a left wing rag reporting their stupid narritave for you
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