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WTF is wrong with the left?

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Re: WTF is wrong with the left?
« Reply #9345 on: March 27, 2026, 06:42:23 PM »
Quote from: Reacher on March 27, 2026, 05:00:01 PM
“They fundamentally don’t care if their ideas work” is pretty rich coming from the people who keep giving massive tax cuts to the rich while accumulating massive national debt.

Except their plan is to starve the government.
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Re: WTF is wrong with the left?
« Reply #9346 on: March 27, 2026, 07:22:27 PM »
Quote from: Reacher on March 27, 2026, 06:41:23 PM
Which is actually where most “progressives” in America are. It is a strawman that progressives want Russian, Cuban, or Venezuelan style socialism. We want Nordic style “socialsim,” which is essentially capitalism with better safeguards.


It’s pretty simple.

If you get sick - your taxes pay for getting you better.

If you want to go to Disney? Get a job
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Re: WTF is wrong with the left?
« Reply #9347 on: March 27, 2026, 08:15:51 PM »
Quote from: ThePAMan on March 27, 2026, 06:42:23 PM
Except their plan is to starve the government.

That’s not how they sell it for the most part. “Rising tide lifts all boats.”

“We told them it would trickle down!”
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Re: WTF is wrong with the left?
« Reply #9348 on: March 27, 2026, 08:17:06 PM »
Quote from: Reacher on March 27, 2026, 08:15:51 PM
That’s not how they sell it for the most part. “Rising tide lifts all boats.”

“We told them it would trickle down!”


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Re: WTF is wrong with the left?
« Reply #9349 on: March 27, 2026, 09:15:23 PM »
Quote from: Reacher on March 27, 2026, 06:41:23 PM
Which is actually where most “progressives” in America are. It is a strawman that progressives want Russian, Cuban, or Venezuelan style socialism. We want Nordic style “socialsim,” which is essentially capitalism with better safeguards.

You can start by cheating on your taxes, since that is rampant over there..
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Re: WTF is wrong with the left?
« Reply #9350 on: March 27, 2026, 09:31:01 PM »
Quote from: ThePAMan on March 27, 2026, 09:15:23 PM
You can start by cheating on your taxes, since that is rampant over there..

How does one cheat on the VAT?
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Re: WTF is wrong with the left?
« Reply #9351 on: March 27, 2026, 09:47:22 PM »
Quote from: illiniray on March 27, 2026, 09:31:01 PM
How does one cheat on the VAT?

Don’t pester with facts
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Re: WTF is wrong with the left?
« Reply #9352 on: March 27, 2026, 11:41:16 PM »
Quote from: illiniray on March 27, 2026, 09:31:01 PM
How does one cheat on the VAT?

Sure, that's the only taxes they have over there..
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Re: WTF is wrong with the left?
« Reply #9353 on: March 28, 2026, 12:01:06 AM »
Quote from: ThePAMan on March 27, 2026, 11:41:16 PM
Sure, that's the only taxes they have over there..

If we are still talking Scandinavia, my impression is tax morale and compliance are very high. That seems to be true of Northern Europe in general. People get value back in terms of services and infrastructure, and they trust the government with their money.
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Re: WTF is wrong with the left?
« Reply #9354 on: March 28, 2026, 07:14:17 AM »
The U.S. is 20 times larger than Sweden and has a population roughly 35 times larger.
Sweden's population is roughly that of NYC.
Sweden has a king.
Norway has a king.
Denmark has a queen.

The US has NoKingsDay.
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Re: WTF is wrong with the left?
« Reply #9355 on: March 28, 2026, 07:38:36 AM »
Quote from: Somewhere in Mn on March 28, 2026, 07:14:17 AM
The U.S. is 20 times larger than Sweden and has a population roughly 35 times larger.
Sweden's population is roughly that of NYC.
Sweden has a king.
Norway has a king.
Denmark has a queen.

The US has NoKingsDay.

Sounds like Tempo and Nichi want to restore the monarchy here.
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Re: WTF is wrong with the left?
« Reply #9356 on: March 28, 2026, 09:04:47 AM »
Quote from: ThePAMan on March 28, 2026, 07:38:36 AM
Sounds like Tempo and Nichi want to restore the monarchy here.
Operation The Grass Is Always Greener.
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Re: WTF is wrong with the left?
« Reply #9357 on: March 28, 2026, 09:46:55 AM »
Quote from: Custard on March 27, 2026, 04:19:21 PM
Ding ding ding 🎯

https://x.com/artemisconsort/status/2037253511596138586?s=46

The Minneapolis City Council members wouldn't approve a resolution to normalize relations with Cuba.
Cuba, Mn is a ghost town 200 miles from Minneapolis but it's probably not that Cuba.
The Minneapolis City Council wouldn't approve a resolution to divest from European institutions who support ICE.

https://x.com/i/status/2037251567225593930
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Re: WTF is wrong with the left?
« Reply #9358 on: March 28, 2026, 01:20:51 PM »
Quote from: Somewhere in Mn on March 28, 2026, 07:14:17 AM
The U.S. is 20 times larger than Sweden and has a population roughly 35 times larger.
Sweden's population is roughly that of NYC.
Sweden has a king.
Norway has a king.
Denmark has a queen.

The US has NoKingsDay.

The US imported our king and his name is Mirkovic. And he has about as much power as the King of Sweden
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Re: WTF is wrong with the left?
« Reply #9359 on: March 28, 2026, 02:27:47 PM »
Quote from: Somewhere in Mn on March 28, 2026, 07:14:17 AM
The U.S. is 20 times larger than Sweden and has a population roughly 35 times larger.
Sweden's population is roughly that of NYC.
Sweden has a king.
Norway has a king.
Denmark has a queen.

The US has NoKingsDay.

The United Kingdom also has a Monarch. Perhaps you weren't aware the role of the Monarchy in Social Democracies is cultural and symbolic. Wealthy families, the top 2%, in the USA wield more actual political power. President Donald Trump wields more political power.
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