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WTF is wrong with the left?

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Re: WTF is wrong with the left?
« Reply #8610 on: December 20, 2025, 10:39:16 AM »
Hal, does 0.5 x 9 really equal 3 ?

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Re: WTF is wrong with the left?
« Reply #8611 on: December 20, 2025, 12:54:00 PM »
No one should be above the law, not even the President. Otherwise, you have a king.

You think this is new to just Trump??
Because FOX News told me so…

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Re: WTF is wrong with the left?
« Reply #8612 on: December 20, 2025, 01:26:47 PM »
You think this is new to just Trump??

It is new to Trump.

Presidential immunity for certain official acts is specifically new to Trump.

The current form of unitary executive began with W, expanded a bit with Obama. Has been taken to a new, unprecedented extreme by Trump.

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Re: WTF is wrong with the left?
« Reply #8613 on: December 20, 2025, 02:00:02 PM »
Presidential immunity for certain official acts is specifically new due to challenges to the concept that ended up at SCOTUS.

And a reset to the concept of executive powers was needed after the last administration.



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Re: WTF is wrong with the left?
« Reply #8614 on: December 20, 2025, 05:11:32 PM »
Presidential immunity for certain official acts is specifically new due to challenges to the concept that ended up at SCOTUS.

And a reset to the concept of executive powers was needed after the last administration.

 !!!!!!

It other word, it is new to just Trump.
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Re: WTF is wrong with the left?
« Reply #8615 on: December 21, 2025, 07:52:46 AM »

The current form of unitary executive began with W, expanded a bit with Obama. Has been taken to a new, unprecedented extreme by Trump.

Trump won 6-3.

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Re: WTF is wrong with the left?
« Reply #8616 on: December 21, 2025, 08:41:26 AM »
Corrupt radical right wing fascist supreme court. I thought they were supposed to be originalists?

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Re: WTF is wrong with the left?
« Reply #8617 on: December 21, 2025, 05:19:59 PM »
You think this is new to just Trump??

Is he the first to push boundaries and violate the law? No. Is he the first to do it so blatantly, I’d say yes.
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Re: WTF is wrong with the left?
« Reply #8618 on: December 23, 2025, 11:37:26 PM »
Bet most of the people here agree with the way BBC handled it regardless 😂

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Re: WTF is wrong with the left?
« Reply #8619 on: December 24, 2025, 12:40:26 AM »
Corrupt radical right wing fascist supreme court. I thought they were supposed to be originalists?

This is funny, but probably not in the way Ray meant it to be.
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Re: WTF is wrong with the left?
« Reply #8620 on: December 24, 2025, 12:43:53 AM »
!!!!!!

It other word, it is new to just Trump.

But why is it new, and what makes it unprecedented?
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Re: WTF is wrong with the left?
« Reply #8621 on: December 24, 2025, 06:55:17 AM »
Bet most of the people here agree with the way BBC handled it regardless 😂

https://x.com/andrewgold_ok/status/2003510918957953156?s=46
And then there was the phone call with Raffensberger, who was having the call recorded (illegally?), where Trump 'told' him to find votes.

From a Dec 9 State Election Board meeting. Yes, they're still arguing the 2020 election in Georgia hoping to put an asterisk on it.

"Ann Brumbaugh, attorney for the Fulton County Board of Registration and Elections, told the SEB in the hearing that while she has “not seen the tapes” herself, the county does “not dispute that the tapes were not signed.” Brumbaugh continued, “It was a violation of the rule. We, since 2020, again, we have new leadership and a new building and a new board and a new standard operating procedures. And since then the training has been enhanced. … But … we don’t dispute the allegation from the 2020 election.”

Georgia’s Secretary of State Office investigated the alleged failure to sign tabulation tapes and “substantiated” the findings that Fulton County “violated Official Election Record Document Processes when it was discovered that thirty-six (36) out of thirty-seven (37) Advanced Voting Precincts in Fulton County, Georgia failed to sign the Tabulation Tapes as required [by SEB rules],” according to a 2024 investigation summary. In addition to probing the unsigned tabulation tapes, the investigation also found that officials at 32 polling sites failed to verify their zero tapes."
https://thefederalist.com/2025/12/17/fulton-county-we-dont-dispute-315000-votes-lacking-poll-workers-signatures-were-counted-in-2020/

Nobody would sign the tapes for 315,000 votes. 🤷

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Re: WTF is wrong with the left?
« Reply #8622 on: December 25, 2025, 11:56:38 PM »
And then there was the phone call with Raffensberger, who was having the call recorded (illegally?), where Trump 'told' him to find votes.

From a Dec 9 State Election Board meeting. Yes, they're still arguing the 2020 election in Georgia hoping to put an asterisk on it.

"Ann Brumbaugh, attorney for the Fulton County Board of Registration and Elections, told the SEB in the hearing that while she has “not seen the tapes” herself, the county does “not dispute that the tapes were not signed.” Brumbaugh continued, “It was a violation of the rule. We, since 2020, again, we have new leadership and a new building and a new board and a new standard operating procedures. And since then the training has been enhanced. … But … we don’t dispute the allegation from the 2020 election.”

Georgia’s Secretary of State Office investigated the alleged failure to sign tabulation tapes and “substantiated” the findings that Fulton County “violated Official Election Record Document Processes when it was discovered that thirty-six (36) out of thirty-seven (37) Advanced Voting Precincts in Fulton County, Georgia failed to sign the Tabulation Tapes as required [by SEB rules],” according to a 2024 investigation summary. In addition to probing the unsigned tabulation tapes, the investigation also found that officials at 32 polling sites failed to verify their zero tapes."
https://thefederalist.com/2025/12/17/fulton-county-we-dont-dispute-315000-votes-lacking-poll-workers-signatures-were-counted-in-2020/

Nobody would sign the tapes for 315,000 votes. 🤷

Would that do anything to invalidate the votes though?
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Re: WTF is wrong with the left?
« Reply #8623 on: December 26, 2025, 07:23:10 AM »
Would that do anything to invalidate the votes though?
Raffensberger and the fact checkers spin it as it won't "nullify" the "votes" using the 'nobody would attest to the starting point but we were able to get it all to work out in the end' argument.

What it should do is  'invalidate' the 'ballots' that nobody would attest to.
Why would nobody attest to the "votes" when it's a requirement ?  'Here, you have to sign and so do you and you. Nope, not me. OK, somebody has to sign. Anybody ? Lol

PS: I did get some laughs reading the failing NYT article this morning about the alleged fraud in the Honduras election. The election where the Trump endorsed candidate won.
The editorial room probably had long disagreements. Oh my. Georgia or Honduras ? 🤷
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Re: WTF is wrong with the left?
« Reply #8624 on: December 26, 2025, 08:08:48 AM »
There is no evidence that poll workers declined to attest to the votes.
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