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WTF is wrong with the left?

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Re: WTF is wrong with the left?
« Reply #7560 on: May 17, 2025, 09:17:03 AM »
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"He commented more than once that, 'You know, Hitler did some good things, too,'" Kelly recalled to The Times. Kelly said he would usually quash the conversation by saying "nothing (Hitler) did, you could argue, was good," but that Trump would occasionally bring up the topic again.
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Re: WTF is wrong with the left?
« Reply #7561 on: May 17, 2025, 09:18:24 AM »
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"He commented more than once that, 'You know, Hitler did some good things, too,'" Kelly recalled to The Times. Kelly said he would usually quash the conversation by saying "nothing (Hitler) did, you could argue, was good," but that Trump would occasionally bring up the topic again.
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Re: WTF is wrong with the left?
« Reply #7562 on: May 17, 2025, 09:19:03 AM »
Quote from: Caleb Zoolander on May 17, 2025, 09:13:16 AM
https://forwardky.com/poll-voters-love-progressive-policies-despite-trump-win-tag-analysis/

I agree they like some policies that are progressive, but the progressive brand has been damaged by the pronoun movement.

Also, the hard right has successfully misrepresented and exploited gender, bathroom, voter security, and immigration issues; appealed to bigotry ...
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Re: WTF is wrong with the left?
« Reply #7563 on: May 17, 2025, 09:20:26 AM »
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"He commented more than once that, 'You know, Hitler did some good things, too,'" Kelly recalled to The Times. Kelly said he would usually quash the conversation by saying "nothing (Hitler) did, you could argue, was good," but that Trump would occasionally bring up the topic again.
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Re: WTF is wrong with the left?
« Reply #7564 on: May 17, 2025, 09:23:10 AM »
Quote from: illiniray on May 17, 2025, 09:19:03 AM
I agree they like some policies that are progressive, but the progressive brand has been damaged by the pronoun movement.

Also, the hard right has successfully misrepresented and exploited gender, bathroom, voter security, and immigration issues; appealed to bigotry ...

A lot of people fall for the disingenous framing of cultural issues and PAMan (essentially being a Republican) falls for it, too. The nuts and bolts of progressive policies are healthcare, education, wages, and taxing the wealthy. The simpletons think it’s pronouns.
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"He commented more than once that, 'You know, Hitler did some good things, too,'" Kelly recalled to The Times. Kelly said he would usually quash the conversation by saying "nothing (Hitler) did, you could argue, was good," but that Trump would occasionally bring up the topic again.
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Re: WTF is wrong with the left?
« Reply #7565 on: May 17, 2025, 09:24:33 AM »
Universal healthcare even polled at 38% (or thereabouts) with Republicans in some polls.
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Re: WTF is wrong with the left?
« Reply #7566 on: May 17, 2025, 09:25:25 AM »
Quote from: Caleb Zoolander on May 17, 2025, 09:16:11 AM
https://www.msnbc.com/msnbc/amp/shows/maddow/blog/rcna179308

Dems should make major gains in Congress in 2026. How will gerrymandering and voter suppression influence the outcome? Will there even be an election?
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Re: WTF is wrong with the left?
« Reply #7567 on: May 17, 2025, 09:25:53 AM »
I should say the simpletons and the bigoted.
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« Reply #7568 on: May 17, 2025, 09:27:55 AM »
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« Reply #7569 on: May 17, 2025, 09:32:01 AM »
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Re: WTF is wrong with the left?
« Reply #7570 on: May 17, 2025, 09:38:27 AM »
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Re: WTF is wrong with the left?
« Reply #7571 on: May 17, 2025, 10:16:29 AM »
Quote from: illiniray on May 17, 2025, 09:14:10 AM
Did Democrats vote for Trump or stay home?

Yes.

 
How significant was voter suppression efforts?

Kamala was a walking talking Democrat suppression effort.


Can we still call urban blue collar social conservative swing voters Democrats?

No, because they flipped due to all the woke progressive bullshit.
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Re: WTF is wrong with the left?
« Reply #7572 on: May 17, 2025, 06:35:07 PM »
Quote from: Caleb Zoolander on May 17, 2025, 09:08:03 AM
Some. Far from most.

6 to 12% With another 12% not voting for either.  24% was not chump change and decided that election.

Well done "Independent" Bernie. Next time just run as a Republican since you are just doing their work anyway.
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Re: WTF is wrong with the left?
« Reply #7573 on: May 17, 2025, 06:41:00 PM »
Quote from: Caleb Zoolander on May 17, 2025, 09:23:10 AM
A lot of people fall for the disingenous framing of cultural issues and PAMan (essentially being a Republican) falls for it, too. The nuts and bolts of progressive policies are healthcare, education, wages, and taxing the wealthy. The simpletons think it’s pronouns.

Bullshit.

We see these damn polls all the damn time and yet when the rubber hits the road, people are not pulling the lever for Ihlan Omar for President.

Kamala Harris is for they/them, President Trump is for you.  That is going to work every damn time.

Read the article with the focus group lady. People are not voting for Dems who are for "they/them" as that means that they are not for "you" regardless of all these polls and policies. People outside the Blue City Cocoons do not trust Progressives due to all the cultural baggage and gun grabbing. It is as simple as that. We just saw it in action.
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Re: WTF is wrong with the left?
« Reply #7574 on: May 18, 2025, 09:26:04 AM »
Quote from: ThePAMan on May 17, 2025, 06:41:00 PM
Bullshit.

We see these damn polls all the damn time and yet when the rubber hits the road, people are not pulling the lever for Ihlan Omar for President.


As I said, PAMan will fall for the banana in the tailpipe virtually every time.
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"He commented more than once that, 'You know, Hitler did some good things, too,'" Kelly recalled to The Times. Kelly said he would usually quash the conversation by saying "nothing (Hitler) did, you could argue, was good," but that Trump would occasionally bring up the topic again.
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