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WTF is wrong with the left?

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Re: WTF is wrong with the left?
« Reply #7500 on: May 14, 2025, 11:03:39 AM »
Quote from: ThePAMan on May 14, 2025, 07:48:39 AM
He's not a Democrat and neither of you. So, both of you can go fuck yourselves and stay out of Democratic Business. Time to get the rest of the loser Progressive scum out of the party as well.

"Democrat" and "Republican" are not genetic conditions. Anyone is allowed to enter the primary. If the voters of said party don't like the candidate, they won't win.
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Re: WTF is wrong with the left?
« Reply #7501 on: May 14, 2025, 11:04:47 AM »
Quote from: Custard on May 14, 2025, 09:05:43 AM


lol refugees. That's like saying some rich asshole who doesn't like Trump and moves to Canada and buys a mansion at Whistler is a refugee.
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Re: WTF is wrong with the left?
« Reply #7502 on: May 14, 2025, 12:27:18 PM »
Quote from: murphstahoe on May 14, 2025, 11:01:23 AM
The real shit heads here are the people on this Democratic bench who probably knew all this shit and didn't just announce a primary challenge in 2023 and end this nonsense. It would not have taken long for Biden to show no momentum in the polls, and the Jim Clyburns and Nancy Pelosi types would have jumped off the Biden ship.

Everyone knew. But people were so afraid of Trump - rightfully so - that their brains shut down and they took what they thought was the "risk averse" play which was actually a dead end play. Frankly they got lucky that Trump didn't really navigate COVID so much as it navigated him, that Biden snuck by in 2020.

The presence of Biden and the people who were too chicken shit to just go get a decent candidate does not make Trump a good one. We are seeing this now - Trump has altered the US Tariff policy 55 times in 30 days. For no good reason other than the color of his shit that morning. Even if somehow we end up with a coherent and useful trade policy going forwards, the whipsaw has done extensive permanent damage.

Trump is pathetic. At this point he's far more dangerous than Biden. Biden was a doddering guy past his prime with a top notch staff and the adminstration was mostly harmless. Trump is demented but still physically able to get around and speak for the most part, making it possible for him to do actual real damage, and his staff is useless and also will cowtow to his stupidity hoping to leverage it for "something".

The tariff policy has created zero permanent damage, the markets are humming along, deals are taking place. Stop being so damn dramatic. The top notch Biden staff let millions of illegal aliens into the country.
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Re: WTF is wrong with the left?
« Reply #7503 on: May 14, 2025, 12:41:41 PM »
Quote from: Custard on May 14, 2025, 12:27:18 PM
The tariff policy has created zero permanent damage, the markets are humming along, deals are taking place. Stop being so damn dramatic. The top notch Biden staff let millions of illegal aliens into the country.

Sure it has. Small businesses work on super tight margins, and very tight cashflow. A couple of months of not being able to take delivery due to the tariffs, or not being able to order because of tariffs, either locks up your cash or strips your inventory. They are always 6 weeks from bankruptcy and that's the time frame Trump dealt to them.

Maybe you find a bridge loan but thanks to Trump, interest rates for lines of credit are approaching 10%, often these small companies are floating credit cards approaching 20%, even if they can pull on a HELOC that's 9% right now.

These aren't big corporations like dollar general.
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Re: WTF is wrong with the left?
« Reply #7504 on: May 14, 2025, 01:36:17 PM »
Trump is certainly partly to blame because he started hardcore printing money to bail everyone out due to the “two weeks to flatten the curve” that blue states turned into a year+ of mask and social distancing mandates. Biden continued, all of which threw gasoline (demand) on the supply chain issues.

Trump adamantly wants lower interest rates, and I think there will be relief for businesses if and when what you’re saying ever happens. Not sure how many businesses are that reliant on Chinese goods and operate in a near bankruptcy state that weren’t bound for the floor anyways.
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Re: WTF is wrong with the left?
« Reply #7505 on: May 14, 2025, 01:40:29 PM »
Quote from: murphstahoe on May 14, 2025, 11:03:39 AM
"Democrat" and "Republican" are not genetic conditions. Anyone is allowed to enter the primary. If the voters of said party don't like the candidate, they won't win.

And that is what happened.
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Re: WTF is wrong with the left?
« Reply #7506 on: May 14, 2025, 01:43:51 PM »
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Re: WTF is wrong with the left?
« Reply #7507 on: May 14, 2025, 03:29:13 PM »
Quote from: ThePAMan on May 14, 2025, 07:48:39 AM
He's not a Democrat and neither of you. So, both of you can go fuck yourselves and stay out of Democratic Business. Time to get the rest of the loser Progressive scum out of the party as well.

Regardless, they “let” him run in their primary. He should have been given a fair shot. He wasn’t. Who gives a fuck about labels? I don’t.
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"He commented more than once that, 'You know, Hitler did some good things, too,'" Kelly recalled to The Times. Kelly said he would usually quash the conversation by saying "nothing (Hitler) did, you could argue, was good," but that Trump would occasionally bring up the topic again.
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Re: WTF is wrong with the left?
« Reply #7508 on: May 14, 2025, 03:30:00 PM »
So much for the Democratic Party being a “big tent” party…
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"He commented more than once that, 'You know, Hitler did some good things, too,'" Kelly recalled to The Times. Kelly said he would usually quash the conversation by saying "nothing (Hitler) did, you could argue, was good," but that Trump would occasionally bring up the topic again.
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Re: WTF is wrong with the left?
« Reply #7509 on: May 14, 2025, 03:31:14 PM »
Quote from: ThePAMan on May 14, 2025, 01:40:29 PM
And that is what happened.

With the help of some good old fashioned Democratic rigging.
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"He commented more than once that, 'You know, Hitler did some good things, too,'" Kelly recalled to The Times. Kelly said he would usually quash the conversation by saying "nothing (Hitler) did, you could argue, was good," but that Trump would occasionally bring up the topic again.
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Re: WTF is wrong with the left?
« Reply #7510 on: May 14, 2025, 03:34:07 PM »
Quote from: ThePAMan on May 14, 2025, 07:45:26 AM
Maybe he should have been a Democrat.

Says perhaps the most Republican sounding Democrat I’ve ever encountered.
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"He commented more than once that, 'You know, Hitler did some good things, too,'" Kelly recalled to The Times. Kelly said he would usually quash the conversation by saying "nothing (Hitler) did, you could argue, was good," but that Trump would occasionally bring up the topic again.
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Re: WTF is wrong with the left?
« Reply #7511 on: May 14, 2025, 03:41:37 PM »
Quote from: Custard on May 14, 2025, 01:36:17 PM
Trump adamantly wants lower interest rates,

Interest rates are set by the market. You cannot order the banks to lend money at lower rates. Lower rates are a function of economic stability, not by command of the President - the only way Trump could unilaterally lower rates would be to start lending it out himself at low rates (LOL).

Trump wants big tariffs. Tariffs cause instability and inflation. Instability and inflation cause higher interest rates.

I'm sure that even if you took Geometry, you failed, but what we have here is the transitive property. Trump wants higher interest rates - whether he understands it or not.
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Re: WTF is wrong with the left?
« Reply #7512 on: May 14, 2025, 04:08:42 PM »
Quote from: Custard on May 14, 2025, 09:05:43 AM


Refugees from what...not being able to oppress black people?
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Re: WTF is wrong with the left?
« Reply #7513 on: May 14, 2025, 04:41:19 PM »
Quote from: murphstahoe on May 14, 2025, 03:41:37 PM
Interest rates are set by the market. You cannot order the banks to lend money at lower rates. Lower rates are a function of economic stability, not by command of the President - the only way Trump could unilaterally lower rates would be to start lending it out himself at low rates (LOL).

Trump wants big tariffs. Tariffs cause instability and inflation. Instability and inflation cause higher interest rates.

I'm sure that even if you took Geometry, you failed, but what we have here is the transitive property. Trump wants higher interest rates - whether he understands it or not.

He doesn’t want big tariffs. They are nothing but a lever to put pressure on trade partners to level the playing field. He clearly wants small to moderate tariffs, at most. Whether you agree with using the tariffs the way he has used them or not, and I know you don’t, this was obviously the plan all along. Scare the shit out of everyone with big numbers and threats, then back down to what you actually wanted and let the other side think they got a deal.
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Re: WTF is wrong with the left?
« Reply #7514 on: May 14, 2025, 06:43:16 PM »
Quote from: Custard on May 14, 2025, 04:41:19 PM
He doesn’t want big tariffs.

Wrong
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