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WTF is wrong with the left?

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Re: WTF is wrong with the left?
« Reply #4740 on: March 09, 2024, 12:04:23 AM »
Quote from: alum74 on March 08, 2024, 10:27:21 PM
Sorry, but you are not an independent, not even close.  Just another right-wing partisan with no policies, no solutions, just performance art.

These days if you aren’t fully engaged in identity politics, each side will eagerly brand you as the enemy. 

I’m a pro choice, pro second amendment, pro gay rights, pro (well-planned) universal healthcare, pro (reasonable) social programs/safety net, Christian, middle class, anti-bureaucracy, suburban Dad. I didn’t vote for Trump in either election. Won’t vote for him in this one. Not registered with either party. But I’m a right wing partisan?

I’m exactly the type of person the Democrats should be seeking to gain support from in this election cycle. Instead they’re shitting their collective pants and somehow making Trump look appealing to an alarming number of people that should be flocking to blue. Good job.

You saw how the basket of deplorables thing worked out in 2016, but it seems you folks are awfully slow learners.

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Re: WTF is wrong with the left?
« Reply #4741 on: March 09, 2024, 12:07:05 AM »
Still chuckling about the right wing partisan thing.

I don’t agree with Ray on much in here it seems, but we’ve shared some similar thoughts around Libertarianism. I’ve said here before that is what I’d endorse, but people haven’t evolved to the point to where it is feasible—we are too short sighted and selfish. He posted almost the exact same sentiment the other day here.
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Re: WTF is wrong with the left?
« Reply #4742 on: March 09, 2024, 12:18:57 AM »
Ironically, the two baskets speech was excellent in context. Hillary was addressing  an LGBTQXYZ audience  that hated Trump and his supporters. She told them that half of Trumpers were good, hard working people. Only half were racist, fascist, homophobic, misogynist deplorable bigots.

 The liberal media went berserk. OMG! Hillary really called American voters deplorable?!? Shocking!

Well, so fucking what? If the shoe fits, wear it. If not, you maybe were in the fairly good, persuadable basket.

Maybe she should have lied and said the deplorable basket was only a small percentage of Trumpers?

Hell, Trump uses offensive gutter language to smear his opponents all the time. Yes, the liberal media calls him out, but his popularity only grows.
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Re: WTF is wrong with the left?
« Reply #4743 on: March 09, 2024, 12:21:01 AM »
Do you care about semantics or about winning elections?
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Re: WTF is wrong with the left?
« Reply #4744 on: March 09, 2024, 12:32:48 AM »
I can't believe independents or even most Trump voters would support the kind of massive undocumented immigrant relocation program he is planning. 

Either they don't know about it, or are in some form of denial. Of course, the deplorable wing is salivating.
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Re: WTF is wrong with the left?
« Reply #4745 on: March 09, 2024, 12:54:23 AM »
Democrats must play extra nice, otherwise they will motivate Trump's base and offend Independents?
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Re: WTF is wrong with the left?
« Reply #4746 on: March 09, 2024, 06:28:08 AM »
everything
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Re: WTF is wrong with the left?
« Reply #4747 on: March 09, 2024, 07:58:23 AM »
Quote from: illiniray on March 09, 2024, 12:32:48 AM
I can't believe independents or even most Trump voters would support the kind of massive undocumented immigrant relocation program he is planning. 

Either they don't know about it, or are in some form of denial. Of course, the deplorable wing is salivating.

Why wouldn't they? Look at the language regularly being bandied about.
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Re: WTF is wrong with the left?
« Reply #4748 on: March 09, 2024, 08:04:03 AM »
Quote from: Custard on March 09, 2024, 12:04:23 AM
These days if you aren’t fully engaged in identity politics, each side will eagerly brand you as the enemy. 

I’m a pro choice, pro second amendment, pro gay rights, pro (well-planned) universal healthcare, pro (reasonable) social programs/safety net, Christian, middle class, anti-bureaucracy, suburban Dad. I didn’t vote for Trump in either election. Won’t vote for him in this one. Not registered with either party. But I’m a right wing partisan?

I’m exactly the type of person the Democrats should be seeking to gain support from in this election cycle. Instead they’re shitting their collective pants and somehow making Trump look appealing to an alarming number of people that should be flocking to blue. Good job.

You saw how the basket of deplorables thing worked out in 2016, but it seems you folks are awfully slow learners.

Your normalizing of the conduct underpinning January 6th, the records case, the GA case, by claiming these are "political prosecutions," undercut your protestations.
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Re: WTF is wrong with the left?
« Reply #4749 on: March 09, 2024, 10:12:14 AM »
Quote from: Custard on March 09, 2024, 12:04:23 AM
These days if you aren’t fully engaged in identity politics, each side will eagerly brand you as the enemy. 

I’m a pro choice, pro second amendment, pro gay rights, pro (well-planned) universal healthcare, pro (reasonable) social programs/safety net, Christian, middle class, anti-bureaucracy, suburban Dad. I didn’t vote for Trump in either election. Won’t vote for him in this one. Not registered with either party. But I’m a right wing partisan?

I’m exactly the type of person the Democrats should be seeking to gain support from in this election cycle. Instead they’re shitting their collective pants and somehow making Trump look appealing to an alarming number of people that should be flocking to blue. Good job.

You saw how the basket of deplorables thing worked out in 2016, but it seems you folks are awfully slow learners.

You are not fooling anyone here. 
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Re: WTF is wrong with the left?
« Reply #4750 on: March 09, 2024, 12:44:45 PM »
Can’t slip anything past PropagandaBot74!
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Re: WTF is wrong with the left?
« Reply #4751 on: March 09, 2024, 12:48:20 PM »
Alum is the HQ2 AI bot or like ChatGPT…
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Re: WTF is wrong with the left?
« Reply #4752 on: March 09, 2024, 01:48:35 PM »
Just glad Alum is still fighting the good fight!
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Re: WTF is wrong with the left?
« Reply #4753 on: March 09, 2024, 03:14:44 PM »
Quote from: Custard on March 09, 2024, 12:44:45 PM
Can’t slip anything past PropagandaBot74!

exactly, I often wonder why is this thing even here?  It doesn't post on the sports boards
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Re: WTF is wrong with the left?
« Reply #4754 on: March 09, 2024, 07:00:51 PM »
Quote from: Custard on March 09, 2024, 12:44:45 PM
Can’t slip anything past PropagandaBot74!

I'm an "independent" and "I try to look at things objectively".   

Hehehe...
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