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WTF is wrong with the left?

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Re: WTF is wrong with the left?
« Reply #5640 on: August 20, 2024, 03:20:27 PM »
Quote from: Tempo34 on August 20, 2024, 12:43:01 PM
Fair point. She lost because the electoral college as currently constructed us stupid. Still, if she splits the moderate vote instead of loses it by 6% she crushes him.

I don't think you got my point. A lot of people just didn't prioritize voting because Trump seemed to be a complete joke who had no chance of winning.

Among moderates, those who flipped the coin and picked "Trump" were more likely to show up than moderates whose coin landed on "Clinton" because they figured she didn't need their vote.
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« Reply #5641 on: August 20, 2024, 03:32:01 PM »
True, I misspoke. It wasn’t the point you were trying to make, but it was a point you inadvertently made. She won the popular vote easily. If she doesn’t lose the moderates by 6% she wins the WH easily.
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"He commented more than once that, 'You know, Hitler did some good things, too,'" Kelly recalled to The Times. Kelly said he would usually quash the conversation by saying "nothing (Hitler) did, you could argue, was good," but that Trump would occasionally bring up the topic again.
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Re: WTF is wrong with the left?
« Reply #5642 on: August 20, 2024, 03:33:23 PM »
Quote from: murphstahoe on August 20, 2024, 03:20:27 PM

Among moderates, those who flipped the coin and picked "Trump" were more likely to show up than moderates whose coin landed on "Clinton" because they figured she didn't need their vote.

I take no issue with that. But again, she lost the moderates who did vote by about 6%. To the most flawed candidate you can imagine.
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"He commented more than once that, 'You know, Hitler did some good things, too,'" Kelly recalled to The Times. Kelly said he would usually quash the conversation by saying "nothing (Hitler) did, you could argue, was good," but that Trump would occasionally bring up the topic again.
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Re: WTF is wrong with the left?
« Reply #5643 on: August 20, 2024, 06:03:20 PM »
I think part of it was swing voter  Democrats didn't like Hillary to begin with. Then she didn't handle the personal attacks well, and her counter attacks backfired.

This was a little bit surprising because Bill Clinton was so skilled at that game.

Al Gore was a dud at dirty politics too.

I suspect Harris and Tim can handle themselves.
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« Reply #5644 on: August 20, 2024, 06:48:39 PM »
Quote from: illiniray on August 20, 2024, 06:03:20 PM
I think part of it was swing voter  Democrats didn't like Hillary to begin with. Then she didn't handle the personal attacks well, and her counter attacks backfired.

This was a little bit surprising because Bill Clinton was so skilled at that game.

Al Gore was a dud at dirty politics too.

I suspect Harris and Tim can handle themselves.

Pretty accurate IMO.
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"He commented more than once that, 'You know, Hitler did some good things, too,'" Kelly recalled to The Times. Kelly said he would usually quash the conversation by saying "nothing (Hitler) did, you could argue, was good," but that Trump would occasionally bring up the topic again.
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Re: WTF is wrong with the left?
« Reply #5645 on: August 21, 2024, 03:35:27 AM »
Tempo still doesn't understand that the Democratic is too busy catering to professors and lawyers which is why it doesn't appeal
to people in West Virginia who are no longer Democrats
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Re: WTF is wrong with the left?
« Reply #5646 on: August 21, 2024, 03:54:47 AM »
As Tempo already knows, I have DNC stories...my workday Wednesday is fucked.
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Re: WTF is wrong with the left?
« Reply #5647 on: August 21, 2024, 06:01:06 AM »
Quote from: ThePAMan on August 21, 2024, 03:35:27 AM
Tempo still doesn't understand that the Democratic is too busy catering to professors and lawyers which is why it doesn't appeal
to people in West Virginia who are no longer Democrats

Someone doesn’t understand the “southern strategy” of the GOP post Eisenhower.
« Last Edit: August 21, 2024, 06:06:50 AM by Tempo34 »
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"He commented more than once that, 'You know, Hitler did some good things, too,'" Kelly recalled to The Times. Kelly said he would usually quash the conversation by saying "nothing (Hitler) did, you could argue, was good," but that Trump would occasionally bring up the topic again.
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Re: WTF is wrong with the left?
« Reply #5648 on: August 21, 2024, 07:41:02 AM »
Quote from: Tempo34 on August 21, 2024, 06:01:06 AM
Someone doesn’t understand the “southern strategy” of the GOP post Eisenhower.

LOL

Yes, the poor people in West Virginia are actually really big into student loan forgiveness.
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Re: WTF is wrong with the left?
« Reply #5649 on: August 21, 2024, 07:48:28 AM »
That was weird.
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Re: WTF is wrong with the left?
« Reply #5650 on: August 21, 2024, 07:57:20 AM »
WV went straight Republican 40 years before student loan forgiveness was a thing.
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Re: WTF is wrong with the left?
« Reply #5651 on: August 21, 2024, 10:05:58 AM »
Trump absolutely hates the people that love him. It's so weird.

He talks about doing things that would directly hurt them, and they're like "YEAH!"

Maybe he's a jedi or some shit. It's just so weird.
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Re: WTF is wrong with the left?
« Reply #5652 on: August 21, 2024, 11:38:55 AM »
Quote from: ThePAMan on August 21, 2024, 07:41:02 AM
LOL

Yes, the poor people in West Virginia are actually really big into student loan forgiveness.

They are just into people who went to college paying a lot of taxes and subsidizing West Virginia.

https://wallethub.com/edu/states-most-least-dependent-on-the-federal-government/2700
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Re: WTF is wrong with the left?
« Reply #5653 on: August 21, 2024, 11:45:33 AM »
Quote from: murphstahoe on August 21, 2024, 11:38:55 AM
They are just into people who went to college paying a lot of taxes and subsidizing West Virginia.

https://wallethub.com/edu/states-most-least-dependent-on-the-federal-government/2700

I actually talked to a gal who is from West Virginia. She was proud that she was going on a date with a coal miner. That's actually a big status there.

If you have a job that pays higher than minimum wage, you can destroy pussy there. It's crazy.
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Re: WTF is wrong with the left?
« Reply #5654 on: August 21, 2024, 11:52:40 AM »
Quote from: Jobu on August 21, 2024, 11:45:33 AM
I actually talked to a gal who is from West Virginia. She was proud that she was going on a date with a coal miner. That's actually a big status there.

If you have a job that pays higher than minimum wage, you can destroy pussy there. It's crazy.

Queue John Denver… “West Virginia, mountain momma” here I come!
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