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WTF is wrong with the left?

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Re: WTF is wrong with the left?
« Reply #5625 on: August 20, 2024, 11:43:35 AM »
Quote from: IlliniGolf on August 20, 2024, 09:03:44 AM
Tens of millions of young, single, and righteously angry White men with nothing to lose and no prospects of marriage, family, or ever owning a home watch as their country is invaded, destroyed, and ruled by foreigners as they are demonized and called privileged for being in this position. 

Tick tock.

This is effing the Effingham parody account?
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Re: WTF is wrong with the left?
« Reply #5626 on: August 20, 2024, 11:52:04 AM »
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Re: WTF is wrong with the left?
« Reply #5627 on: August 20, 2024, 12:06:38 PM »
Quote from: IlliniGolf on August 20, 2024, 09:03:44 AM
Tens of millions of young, single, and righteously angry White men with nothing to lose and no prospects of marriage, family, or ever owning a home watch as their country is invaded, destroyed, and ruled by foreigners as they are demonized and called privileged for being in this position. 

Tick tock.

Those dipshits should have worked harder in school. This is America. You want something, you work for it, goddamnit.

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Re: WTF is wrong with the left?
« Reply #5628 on: August 20, 2024, 12:09:32 PM »
Quote from: ThePAMan on August 20, 2024, 09:44:41 AM
LOL. Staying home because Hillary was "mean" and not a piece of shit progressive was great, wasn't it? Sure showed them Democrats, which is why a moderate actually won a national election.

How fucking stupid do you have to be to actually believe this lesser of 2 evils bullshit? When one guy tried a soft coup with his fake electoral bullshit, Jan 6th, etc etc. Who the fuck hit you in the head as a kid? JFC.

Did you watch Hillary last night? Truth is - she's just a horrible speaker. I took debate and oratory in High School, she violates pretty much all of the stuff we were taught. Her cadence sucks, her inflections are awful, she speaks louder when she should speak softer and vice versa.

That's worth a couple of percent in a visible election.
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Re: WTF is wrong with the left?
« Reply #5629 on: August 20, 2024, 12:12:59 PM »
Quote from: Tempo34 on August 20, 2024, 09:58:16 AM
But it accounts for everyone who voted. And the bottom line is Hillary lost too much of the moderate vote. Wasn’t the turnout for 2016 quite big?

Biden beat Trump 81M to 74M
Clinton beat Trump 66M to 63M
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Re: WTF is wrong with the left?
« Reply #5630 on: August 20, 2024, 12:43:01 PM »
Quote from: murphstahoe on August 20, 2024, 12:12:59 PM
Biden beat Trump 81M to 74M
Clinton beat Trump 66M to 63M

Fair point. She lost because the electoral college as currently constructed us stupid. Still, if she splits the moderate vote instead of loses it by 6% she crushes him.
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Re: WTF is wrong with the left?
« Reply #5631 on: August 20, 2024, 01:00:34 PM »
A Democrat should never lose the moderate vote to a nutjob like Trump.
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Re: WTF is wrong with the left?
« Reply #5632 on: August 20, 2024, 01:22:37 PM »
Quote from: Tempo34 on August 20, 2024, 12:43:01 PM
Fair point. She lost because the electoral college as currently constructed us stupid. Still, if she splits the moderate vote instead of loses it by 6% she crushes him.

A lot of that was the lies about the DNC, the super delegates, the response to the  two baskets, her emails, Benghazi, Uranium.

It got under her skin.

Add her unlikable personality..

Still, dhe was probably one of the most investigated humans ever, and they never found shit.
« Last Edit: August 20, 2024, 01:24:49 PM by illiniray »
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Re: WTF is wrong with the left?
« Reply #5633 on: August 20, 2024, 02:12:46 PM »
What lies about the DNC? The DNC absolutely rigged the process to the fullest extent possible.
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Re: WTF is wrong with the left?
« Reply #5634 on: August 20, 2024, 02:13:34 PM »
Agreed, most of it was bullshit, but she’s really not that effective of a communicator. Not to the masses, anyway.
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Re: WTF is wrong with the left?
« Reply #5635 on: August 20, 2024, 02:20:45 PM »
Quote from: Tempo34 on August 20, 2024, 02:12:46 PM
What lies about the DNC? The DNC absolutely rigged the process to the fullest extent possible.

A lot of BS

Less rigged than the RNC is to the front runner

Proportional voting kept Bernie in the race

He needed 80% of the super delegates to win
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Re: WTF is wrong with the left?
« Reply #5636 on: August 20, 2024, 02:24:22 PM »
Quote from: illiniray on August 20, 2024, 02:20:45 PM


Less rigged than the RNC is to the front runner

Not sure that’s true. No one in the RNC wanted Trump. It was the voters who pushed him through.
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"He commented more than once that, 'You know, Hitler did some good things, too,'" Kelly recalled to The Times. Kelly said he would usually quash the conversation by saying "nothing (Hitler) did, you could argue, was good," but that Trump would occasionally bring up the topic again.
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Re: WTF is wrong with the left?
« Reply #5637 on: August 20, 2024, 02:39:25 PM »
I don’t really feel like the DNC has much of an “existential threat to democracy” leg to stand on.
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Re: WTF is wrong with the left?
« Reply #5638 on: August 20, 2024, 02:48:33 PM »
Quote from: Custard on August 20, 2024, 02:39:25 PM
I don’t really feel like the DNC has much of an “existential threat to democracy” leg to stand on.

Feel free to expound.
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Re: WTF is wrong with the left?
« Reply #5639 on: August 20, 2024, 03:02:27 PM »
Quote from: Tempo34 on August 20, 2024, 02:24:22 PM
Not sure that’s true. No one in the RNC wanted Trump. It was the voters who pushed him through.

Winner takes all versus proportional. Trump just happened have a plurality early in 2016

Last two times, the RNC definitely rigged it for Trump.
« Last Edit: August 20, 2024, 05:56:00 PM by illiniray »
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