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wtf is wrong with the right?

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Re: wtf is wrong with the right?
« Reply #3570 on: June 11, 2023, 09:17:49 AM »
So the analogy is that I'm Fox News because I do not agree with Spark and your methods and point out a guy, who actually has a vested interest in this, who also disagrees with Spark and your methods?

You have an opinion. And you found an intelligent black person who seems to agree with it. And you’re using them as irrefutable proof your opinion is correct. That’s it. The End.
"He commented more than once that, 'You know, Hitler did some good things, too,'" Kelly recalled to The Times. Kelly said he would usually quash the conversation by saying "nothing (Hitler) did, you could argue, was good," but that Trump would occasionally bring up the topic again.

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« Reply #3571 on: June 11, 2023, 09:18:40 AM »
Let me re-emphasize. OPINION.
"He commented more than once that, 'You know, Hitler did some good things, too,'" Kelly recalled to The Times. Kelly said he would usually quash the conversation by saying "nothing (Hitler) did, you could argue, was good," but that Trump would occasionally bring up the topic again.

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« Reply #3572 on: June 11, 2023, 09:19:55 AM »
Again, this author is giving his OPINION. I’m not sure (quite sure) it’s not provable one way or the other. I grew up with a racist father from Mississippi and could have easily become a racist myself. And I am not that bothered by saying white people “got some splainin’ to do.”

You are unsure that his opinion that stigmaticizing people by calling them "dumb," "stupid," and/or "bigots" (shout out to Spark!) is NOT a good way to convince people they are wrong is provable?
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« Reply #3573 on: June 11, 2023, 09:21:56 AM »
You have an opinion. And you found an intelligent black person who seems to agree with it. And you’re using them as irrefutable proof your opinion is correct. That’s it. The End.

And who supports your and Spark's opinion that calling people "dumb," "stupid"  and "bigots" is a good way to get them to change their views? This is what we were talking about from the start.
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Re: wtf is wrong with the right?
« Reply #3574 on: June 11, 2023, 09:23:19 AM »
There was no way to know that missed free shots would cost you a second half cover in a blowout tournament loss.

We all know you are jealous someone else was AOTC before you on the Illini poor Free Shot shooting this year.
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Re: wtf is wrong with the right?
« Reply #3575 on: June 11, 2023, 09:29:54 AM »
Let's do an experiment.

Judge Judy, are you more likely to change your mind on the trans bathroom issue by

A. Being called dumb, stupid and/or a bigot? Or

B. Reading this article by criminologist about trans bathroom bills not reducing crime or the odds of Perv Bob going into the women's bathroom with your daughter?

https://theconversation.com/baseless-anti-trans-claims-fuel-adoption-of-harmful-laws-two-criminologists-explain-206570
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Re: wtf is wrong with the right?
« Reply #3576 on: June 11, 2023, 09:31:38 AM »
Pointing out racism and stigmatizing it has worked in the past. Not sure why it wouldn’t continue to do so.

Why does it bother you so much when people say “White people got some splainin’ to do?”
"He commented more than once that, 'You know, Hitler did some good things, too,'" Kelly recalled to The Times. Kelly said he would usually quash the conversation by saying "nothing (Hitler) did, you could argue, was good," but that Trump would occasionally bring up the topic again.

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« Reply #3577 on: June 11, 2023, 09:32:18 AM »
Let's do an experiment.

Judge Judy, are you more likely to change your mind on the trans bathroom issue by

A. Being called dumb, stupid and/or a bigot? Or

B. Reading this article by criminologist about trans bathroom bills not reducing crime or the odds of Perv Bob going into the women's bathroom with your daughter?

https://theconversation.com/baseless-anti-trans-claims-fuel-adoption-of-harmful-laws-two-criminologists-explain-206570

C. Neither
"He commented more than once that, 'You know, Hitler did some good things, too,'" Kelly recalled to The Times. Kelly said he would usually quash the conversation by saying "nothing (Hitler) did, you could argue, was good," but that Trump would occasionally bring up the topic again.

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« Reply #3578 on: June 11, 2023, 09:34:08 AM »
We all know you are jealous someone else was AOTC before you on the Illini poor Free Shot shooting this year.

Again, no one knew that you losing a second half bet in a blowout tourney loss was what you were arguing about in November. Very prescient of you, though.
"He commented more than once that, 'You know, Hitler did some good things, too,'" Kelly recalled to The Times. Kelly said he would usually quash the conversation by saying "nothing (Hitler) did, you could argue, was good," but that Trump would occasionally bring up the topic again.

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« Reply #3579 on: June 11, 2023, 09:35:34 AM »
And who supports your and Spark's opinion that calling people "dumb," "stupid"  and "bigots" is a good way to get them to change their views? This is what we were talking about from the start.

I’m not sure one method beats the other. One thing is for sure, I’m not going to coddle sensitive white people over race or bigotry.
"He commented more than once that, 'You know, Hitler did some good things, too,'" Kelly recalled to The Times. Kelly said he would usually quash the conversation by saying "nothing (Hitler) did, you could argue, was good," but that Trump would occasionally bring up the topic again.

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Re: wtf is wrong with the right?
« Reply #3580 on: June 11, 2023, 09:54:00 AM »
“White people got some splainin’ to do?”

Then get to explaining. Your white guilt seems to be quite the burden.

I have never done a single solitary thing in my lifetime to oppress or hold anyone down. Anyone that thinks I’ve got ‘splainin to do can fuck right off.
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Re: wtf is wrong with the right?
« Reply #3581 on: June 11, 2023, 09:55:13 AM »
Then get to explaining. Your white guilt seems to be quite the burden.

I have never done a single solitary thing in my lifetime to oppress or hold anyone down. Anyone that thinks I’ve got ‘splainin to do can fuck right off.

Lol. Perfect. Absolutely perfect.
"He commented more than once that, 'You know, Hitler did some good things, too,'" Kelly recalled to The Times. Kelly said he would usually quash the conversation by saying "nothing (Hitler) did, you could argue, was good," but that Trump would occasionally bring up the topic again.

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« Reply #3582 on: June 11, 2023, 09:59:24 AM »
In one brief post, Custard encapsulated the insulary and aggrieved sentiments of “comfortable” white people everywhere. Well done!
"He commented more than once that, 'You know, Hitler did some good things, too,'" Kelly recalled to The Times. Kelly said he would usually quash the conversation by saying "nothing (Hitler) did, you could argue, was good," but that Trump would occasionally bring up the topic again.

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Re: wtf is wrong with the right?
« Reply #3583 on: June 11, 2023, 10:02:53 AM »
Here's my take FWIW. 

To paraphrase Thomas Paine.  “To argue [create a dialogue] with a person who has renounced the use of reason is like administering medicine to the dead.”

When a person identifies with an ideology, best of luck trying to change their minds. The MAGAs are not some dumb rubes that are being exploited. They are active participants in a anti-democracy movement that needs to be opposed.   

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Re: wtf is wrong with the right?
« Reply #3584 on: June 11, 2023, 10:07:17 AM »

Why does it bother you so much when people say “White people got some splainin’ to do?”

Not what we were talking about.
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